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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:05:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:06:02 PM EDT
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I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:13:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:15:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:24:58 PM EDT
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Patheos is a secular humanist website with an agenda. That is not what Texas did. Texas reinforced the common knowledge that western laws come from 2 historical documents; The code of Hammurabi and the 10 commandments. Moses brought the 10 down from the mountain. Stop reading bullshit websites. +1 I read about Hammurabi's code, anicent Sumerian gods like Marduk, maybe you think those should be left out as well? And FYI, the code originally stood in Babylon's temple of Marduk and has an image of Shamash (sun god) |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:25:45 PM EDT
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Much like liberalism, irrational Christian zealotry is a mental illness.  right on cue. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:55:13 PM EDT
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So the intentionally misleading thread title hasn't been corrected yet by the OP?
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:59:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone was a savage in those days. Give Jews and Christians credit for deciding that we don't do that anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:07:58 PM EDT
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I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. I just have to ask, what has changed since early this year? It just seems over the last 6 months or so, you have become extremely vocal and a tad more abrasive and condescending. I'm not calling you out or trying to insult, it was just a day/night change in posting style. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just have to ask, what has changed since early this year? It just seems over the last 6 months or so, you have become extremely vocal and a tad more abrasive and condescending. I'm not calling you out or trying to insult, it was just a day/night change in posting style. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. I just have to ask, what has changed since early this year? It just seems over the last 6 months or so, you have become extremely vocal and a tad more abrasive and condescending. I'm not calling you out or trying to insult, it was just a day/night change in posting style. Why not fight "neckbeards" with "neckbeards"? Why type out a long response to someone you know will say "Oh yeah, you're stupid and evil". |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do. I'll give them more credit when the condemn all savagery no matter who did it "back in the day". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:30:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares about condemning things 500 years ago? The whole point is that folks like ISIS are still doing that shit today, not Jews and Christians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg 500 Years? 100 Years? 25 Years? 10? 1? |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:37:40 PM EDT
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The thread title is dildos. Even just reading the blurb OP posted, it's clear that's not what's going on. That Moses inspired the Founding Fathers is a proven fact. Their own words back that up. Who wrote the Constitution, Atheists or Christians? You get two guesses. Only 3 of the 10 commandments were adopted "as law" at our nation's founding. The Old Testament system of government was antithetical to democracy--it was a theocracy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:38:56 PM EDT
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Much like liberalism, irrational Christian zealotry is a mental illness. As a Christian, I agree with this. Zealots in any religion are dangerous to common sense and reality. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMoses didn't spread his religion by the sword. He led the Isrealites around the Siani for forty years and then died. Joshua took over and started the Israeli conquest of Canaan. However, Joshua wasn't out to spread his religion, he was out to exterminate the inhabitants of Canaan. But you were close! No, actually you weren't close at all.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:44:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do. I'll give them more credit when the condemn all savagery no matter who did it "back in the day". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg That'd take a lot of condemning. Human history is a story of non-stop savagery. Seriously, we're still horrible butchers.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:54:35 PM EDT
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Everyone was a savage in those days. Give Jews and Christians credit for deciding that we don't do that anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg You would do better to give Enlightenment thinkers and "moderate" (read: secularized) Christians credit for not taking their religion so seriously. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:55:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:58:01 PM EDT
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Only 3 of the 10 commandments were adopted "as law" at our nation's founding. The Old Testament system of government was antithetical to democracy--it was a theocracy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The thread title is dildos. Even just reading the blurb OP posted, it's clear that's not what's going on. That Moses inspired the Founding Fathers is a proven fact. Their own words back that up. Who wrote the Constitution, Atheists or Christians? You get two guesses. Only 3 of the 10 commandments were adopted "as law" at our nation's founding. The Old Testament system of government was antithetical to democracy--it was a theocracy. And a lot of Christianity was based on Socialism. Acts 2:44-45 Acts 4:32-35 Among others. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 2:16:42 PM EDT
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Hell, Texas still has references to Levitical law concerning theft at night. Anyone who denies the influence is a self absorbed liar. Ok, pretty much the definition of a progressive.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 2:23:35 PM EDT
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And a lot of Christianity was based on Socialism. Acts 2:44-45 Acts 4:32-35 Among others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The thread title is dildos. Even just reading the blurb OP posted, it's clear that's not what's going on. That Moses inspired the Founding Fathers is a proven fact. Their own words back that up. Who wrote the Constitution, Atheists or Christians? You get two guesses. Only 3 of the 10 commandments were adopted "as law" at our nation's founding. The Old Testament system of government was antithetical to democracy--it was a theocracy. And a lot of Christianity was based on Socialism. Acts 2:44-45 Acts 4:32-35 Among others. BZZZZZZZZZZ Wrong answer. Make sure you pay very close attention to what is actually written there. Folks were GIVING as they saw fit to give. There was no government TAKING it from them. You should also note that they were doing this in their own homes. Meaning they still OWNED their homes. They were not given away, either. What a lot of folks miss is what is at the core of being a Follower of Christ. What is your motivation? What is in your heart? If government TAKES it from you by force, or you give because that's the law, it does not count as what Christ teaches us to do. It is only when you give out of love for your fellow man, and not out of an earthly obligation. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 2:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your butthurt interests me. What in my statement above exactly do you disagree with? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't think there was anything wishy-washy in my response. I've been very clear. The U.S. was a Christian nation in that it was founded and peopled overwhelmingly by Christians and was heavily influenced by Christian theology in its ideas. It was not however founded "as a Christian nation" in that there was a great deal of separation of Church and State built in, though this separation was not absolute at all levels. The separation of Church and State originally only applied at the federal level, several states in fact had official religions. As to what you have been arguing, I couldn't care less. This is a thread about the decision to include references to Judeo-Christian influences on the founding documents of the country in Texas school books. You may attempt to impose your own definitions on the discussion all you like, but you do not define the terms of the debate. Never claimed I did. But, if you think those two terms are equivalent, we have no room for discussion. you have a good evening Your butthurt interests me. What in my statement above exactly do you disagree with? how you got butthurt out of what I typed is a mystery. Its like claiming someone who believes in theistic evolution is a Creationist. Yes, God is responsible for all of creation. But Creationist has a very specific meaning in discourse in the United States. I can't agree that the US is a Christian nation because that statement has several meanings. The U.S. is a nation comprised mostly of Christians. That is a matter of demographics. The U.S. is not a Christian nation in the same way Iran is a Christian nation or England is a Christian nation. Its the same statement I've made over and over again in this thread and many others. I'm not sure why its so controversial. /shrug |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 3:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Moses didn't spread his religion by the sword. He led the Isrealites around the Siani for forty years and then died. Joshua took over and started the Israeli conquest of Canaan. However, Joshua wasn't out to spread his religion, he was out to exterminate the inhabitants of Canaan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Moses didn't spread his religion by the sword. He led the Isrealites around the Siani for forty years and then died. Joshua took over and started the Israeli conquest of Canaan. However, Joshua wasn't out to spread his religion, he was out to exterminate the inhabitants of Canaan. But you were close! No, actually you weren't close at all. I know, that's why the meme didn't say spread his religion, but spread his theocracy, because we wanted land, to spread his theocracy. You ALMOST read a sentence in a Meme comprehended its meaning. ALMOST. Next time, if you try real hard, you might be able to do it! |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 3:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You would do better to give Enlightenment thinkers and "moderate" (read: secularized) Christians credit for not taking their religion so seriously. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg You would do better to give Enlightenment thinkers and "moderate" (read: secularized) Christians credit for not taking their religion so seriously. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 3:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whens the cutoff. 500 Years? 100 Years? 25 Years? 10? 1? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love these "meme" posting binges. Funny that Christian "conservatives" always post about neck-beards not realizing they were THE original neck-beards. http://i.imgur.com/XQnpwte.jpg 500 Years? 100 Years? 25 Years? 10? 1? |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 3:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Moses didn't spread his religion by the sword. He led the Isrealites around the Siani for forty years and then died. Joshua took over and started the Israeli conquest of Canaan. However, Joshua wasn't out to spread his religion, he was out to exterminate the inhabitants of Canaan. But you were close! No, actually you weren't close at all. I know, that's why the meme didn't say spread his religion, but spread his theocracy, because we wanted land, to spread his theocracy. You ALMOST read a sentence in a Meme comprehended its meaning. ALMOST. Next time, if you try real hard, you might be able to do it! Then the premise of the meme is false. Muhammed was out to conquer and convert. Moses was lost. Joshua was out to establish a nation by leading a group of refugees into someone else's land and take it from them. (when you put it that way, it actually sounds a lot like America). Anyways, no matter how you cut it, your meme is still stupid and you're still wrong. Nice try on your attempt to dodge and redirect. You still failed, but you gave it a try. It was a ham fisted try, but a try none the less. Oh, and I'm by no means a religious apologist. Just reasonable.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to Thomas Jefferson, it was English Common Law Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What do they suppose our laws and beliefs were based on back then? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile According to Thomas Jefferson, it was English Common Law but what would he know. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then the premise of the meme is false. Muhammed was out to conquer and convert. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then the premise of the meme is false. Muhammed was out to conquer and convert. Moses was lost. Joshua was out to establish a nation by leading a group of refugees into someone else's land and take it from them. (when you put it that way, it actually sounds a lot like America). Anyways, no matter how you cut it, your meme is still stupid and you're still wrong. Nice try on your attempt to dodge and redirect. You still failed, but you gave it a try. It was a ham fisted try, but a try none the less. Oh, and I'm by no means a religious apologist. Just reasonable. Both men (if they actually existed) were out to expand their savage theocracy. For some reason you don't get this point, and it means you completely failed at comprehending a simple concept. I'm sure you gave it your all, but in the end it wasn't good enough. The bottom line is: the hypocrisy of loving one set of savage theocratic murders over another is just that: Hypocrisy. And the Meme Captures this lunacy perfectly. Like I said, devoutly religious, "I know more about religion than you, and I am holier than though" types WHERE the neck beards for most of the nations history. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:30:21 PM EDT
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Patheos is a secular humanist website with an agenda. That is not what Texas did. Texas reinforced the common knowledge that western laws come from 2 historical documents; The code of Hammurabi and the 10 commandments. Moses brought the 10 down from the mountain. Stop reading bullshit websites. Wait... Are you suggesting that a Atheist on Arfcom has posted a muddled half truth and is getting its info from a questionable site? |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:31:45 PM EDT
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Much like liberalism, irrational Christian zealotry is a mental illness. Yeah no. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then the premise of the meme is false. Muhammed was out to conquer and convert. Moses was lost. Joshua was out to establish a nation by leading a group of refugees into someone else's land and take it from them. (when you put it that way, it actually sounds a lot like America). Anyways, no matter how you cut it, your meme is still stupid and you're still wrong. Nice try on your attempt to dodge and redirect. You still failed, but you gave it a try. It was a ham fisted try, but a try none the less. Oh, and I'm by no means a religious apologist. Just reasonable. Both men (if they actually existed) were out to expand their savage theocracy. For some reason you don't get this point, and it means you completely failed at comprehending a simple concept. I'm sure you gave it your all, but in the end it wasn't good enough. The bottom line is: the hypocrisy of loving one set of savage theocratic murders over another is just that: Hypocrisy. And the Meme Captures this lunacy perfectly. Like I said, devoutly religious, "I know more about religion than you, and I am holier than though" types WHERE the neck beards for most of the nations history. Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:41:15 PM EDT
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Much like liberalism, irrational Christian zealotry is a mental illness. There's a remarkable concentration of that in Texas (statewide as near as I can determine), (Tulsa) Oklahoma, and (Lynchburg) Virginia. I'd better throw Springfield, Missouri in that list, too. [Whether or not the article is worth a hoot.] |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:48:11 PM EDT
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Wait... Are you suggesting that a Atheist on Arfcom has posted a muddled half truth and is getting its info from a questionable site? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Patheos is a secular humanist website with an agenda. That is not what Texas did. Texas reinforced the common knowledge that western laws come from 2 historical documents; The code of Hammurabi and the 10 commandments. Moses brought the 10 down from the mountain. Stop reading bullshit websites. Wait... Are you suggesting that a Atheist on Arfcom has posted a muddled half truth and is getting its info from a questionable site? No....that never happens. 
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Posted: 11/24/2014 4:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. I actually saw that right after he posted it and sent him an IM letting him know and predicting you'd take the low road and comment on his spelling. Good to know you don't disappoint. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. I actually saw that right after he posted it and sent him an IM letting him know and predicting you'd take the low road and comment on his spelling. Good to know you don't disappoint. Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. BTW...I noticed that no one has produced any of these deceitful passages yet. You're like to get some serious chaffing with your panties in that tight of a knot. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:05:35 PM EDT
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Your thread title is false. This. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wear? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. I actually saw that right after he posted it and sent him an IM letting him know and predicting you'd take the low road and comment on his spelling. Good to know you don't disappoint. Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. BTW...I noticed that no one has produced any of these deceitful passages yet. You're like to get some serious chaffing with your panties in that tight of a knot. and if you'd bother to read the thread, you'd know I've been saying its probably for his importance as a lawgiver. The same reason Moses was in my textbooks 30+years ago and the reason he's on the Supreme Court building. The "Moses was the first American" sounds like hyperbole. I've been unable to find the actual wording from the textbook, but noone else has posted it either. But I'm sure you'll find some other reason to talk shit to me. Carry on. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:15:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. I actually saw that right after he posted it and sent him an IM letting him know and predicting you'd take the low road and comment on his spelling. Good to know you don't disappoint. Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. BTW...I noticed that no one has produced any of these deceitful passages yet. You're like to get some serious chaffing with your panties in that tight of a knot. and if you'd bother to read the thread, you'd know I've been saying its probably for his importance as a lawgiver. The same reason Moses was in my textbooks 30+years ago and the reason he's on the Supreme Court building. The "Moses was the first American" sounds like hyperbole. I've been unable to find the actual wording from the textbook, but noone else has posted it either. But I'm sure you'll find some other reason to talk shit to me. Carry on. LOL! You jumped in to a purse fight over Moses spreading his theocracy by the sword... sorry, I can't help it... ...but I'm the bad guy? Come on dude. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And a lot of Christianity was based on Socialism. Acts 2:44-45 Acts 4:32-35 Among others. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The thread title is dildos. Even just reading the blurb OP posted, it's clear that's not what's going on. That Moses inspired the Founding Fathers is a proven fact. Their own words back that up. Who wrote the Constitution, Atheists or Christians? You get two guesses. Only 3 of the 10 commandments were adopted "as law" at our nation's founding. The Old Testament system of government was antithetical to democracy--it was a theocracy. And a lot of Christianity was based on Socialism. Acts 2:44-45 Acts 4:32-35 Among others. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:21:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You jumped in to a purse fight over Moses spreading his theocracy by the sword... sorry, I can't help it... ...but I'm the bad guy? Come on dude. I never said you were a bad guy. You did choose to go the douche route and bitch about spelling when his intent was intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers, but that doesn't make you a bad guy. It doesn't even make you a douche. You might very well be a douche, but I'd have to meet you in person to say for sure. I imagine if I could stomach having a drink with a carpetbagger, we would probably get along ok. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Moses was lost. Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the premise of the meme is solid.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then the premise of the meme is false. Muhammed was out to conquer and convert. Moses was lost. Joshua was out to establish a nation by leading a group of refugees into someone else's land and take it from them. (when you put it that way, it actually sounds a lot like America). Anyways, no matter how you cut it, your meme is still stupid and you're still wrong. Nice try on your attempt to dodge and redirect. You still failed, but you gave it a try. It was a ham fisted try, but a try none the less. Oh, and I'm by no means a religious apologist. Just reasonable. Both men (if they actually existed) were out to expand their savage theocracy. For some reason you don't get this point, and it means you completely failed at comprehending a simple concept. I'm sure you gave it your all, but in the end it wasn't good enough. The bottom line is: the hypocrisy of loving one set of savage theocratic murders over another is just that: Hypocrisy. And the Meme Captures this lunacy perfectly. Like I said, devoutly religious, "I know more about religion than you, and I am holier than though" types WHERE the neck beards for most of the nations history. Wear? Hear or over their? I'm sorry, you telling me how much smarter you are. I can hear your holy neckbeard growing from here. Well done.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: W Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: W Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. Were the ancient Israelites a brutal and evil theocracy, yes or no? (And yes, you can include Moses in that for his "desert wandering" theocracy). You won't answer that, because you can't and maintain the facade of intellectual honesty. I'm saying the sky is blue, and you are saying "no, its not blue but red, haven't you seen a sunset idiot?" You are performing mental gymnastics to avoid admitting the obvious. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. BTW...I noticed that no one has produced any of these deceitful passages yet. You're like to get some serious chaffing with your panties in that tight of a knot. and if you'd bother to read the thread, you'd know I've been saying its probably for his importance as a lawgiver. The same reason Moses was in my textbooks 30+years ago and the reason he's on the Supreme Court building. The "Moses was the first American" sounds like hyperbole. I've been unable to find the actual wording from the textbook, but noone else has posted it either. But I'm sure you'll find some other reason to talk shit to me. Carry on. LOL! You jumped in to a purse fight over Moses spreading his theocracy by the sword... sorry, I can't help it... ...but I'm the bad guy? Come on dude. Yes or no? You literally can't understand simple point laid out in front of you, I'm not sure what to tell you. ETA:: I'll give you a freebie: The main difference between the brutality of Muhammad and the brutality described in the Old Testament is that much of the old testament may be based on fictional characters and their brutality claimed of them likely didn't happen or was largely exaggerated, where as Muhammad is known to be real. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: W Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. Were the ancient Israelites a brutal and evil theocracy, yes or no? (And yes, you can include Moses in that for his "desert wandering" theocracy). You won't answer that, because you can't and maintain the facade of intellectual honesty. I'm saying the sky is blue, and you are saying "no, its not blue but red, haven't you seen a sunset idiot?" You are performing mental gymnastics to avoid admitting the obvious. Sure they were. That said, they were not unique in that regard at that point in history. Mohammed was not unique either. Humanity in general during that time was a race of superstitious butchers. The difference today is that Christianity and Judaism are no longer barbarous. The same cannot be said of Mohammedans. But more to the point, it's kind of hard to claim intellectual superiority over Christians when your facts are completely wrong, which is exactly what you were trying to do.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:55:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your thread title is false. So what - this is a Christian-bashing thread. You know the rules. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, he refuses to see reason. He makes a stupid meme about Moses spreading his theocracy... ...sorry, and then goes on the attack when it turns out he was embarrassingly wrong. But no, you're right. I'm taking The Low Road. He says the sky is green, and I'm the dumb one. BTW...I noticed that no one has produced any of these deceitful passages yet. You're like to get some serious chaffing with your panties in that tight of a knot. and if you'd bother to read the thread, you'd know I've been saying its probably for his importance as a lawgiver. The same reason Moses was in my textbooks 30+years ago and the reason he's on the Supreme Court building. The "Moses was the first American" sounds like hyperbole. I've been unable to find the actual wording from the textbook, but noone else has posted it either. But I'm sure you'll find some other reason to talk shit to me. Carry on. LOL! You jumped in to a purse fight over Moses spreading his theocracy by the sword... sorry, I can't help it... ...but I'm the bad guy? Come on dude. Yes or no? You literally can't understand simple point laid out in front of you, I'm not sure what to tell you. ETA:: I'll give you a freebie: The main difference between the brutality of Muhammad and the brutality described in the Old Testament is that much of the old testament may be based on fictional characters and their brutality claimed of them likely didn't happen or was largely exaggerated, where as Muhammad is known to be real. No, that was not your point at all. Your point was that O_P was an ignorant neck beard and that as an enlightened atheist you are both intellectually superior and inherently more honest. Of course you goat fucked the attempt because you spouted nonsense. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:15:54 AM EDT
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Patheos is a secular humanist website with an agenda. That is not what Texas did. Texas reinforced the common knowledge that western laws come from 2 historical documents; The code of Hammurabi and the 10 commandments. Moses brought the 10 down from the mountain. Stop reading bullshit websites. The English bill of rights probably had more influence on the bill of rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689 As far as the bulk of the US constitution, no, just, no. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:12:13 AM EDT
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how you got butthurt out of what I typed is a mystery. Its like claiming someone who believes in theistic evolution is a Creationist. Yes, God is responsible for all of creation. But Creationist has a very specific meaning in discourse in the United States. I can't agree that the US is a Christian nation because that statement has several meanings. The U.S. is a nation comprised mostly of Christians. That is a matter of demographics. The U.S. is not a Christian nation in the same way Iran is a Christian nation or England is a Christian nation. Its the same statement I've made over and over again in this thread and many others. I'm not sure why its so controversial. /shrug Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think there was anything wishy-washy in my response. I've been very clear. The U.S. was a Christian nation in that it was founded and peopled overwhelmingly by Christians and was heavily influenced by Christian theology in its ideas. It was not however founded "as a Christian nation" in that there was a great deal of separation of Church and State built in, though this separation was not absolute at all levels. The separation of Church and State originally only applied at the federal level, several states in fact had official religions. As to what you have been arguing, I couldn't care less. This is a thread about the decision to include references to Judeo-Christian influences on the founding documents of the country in Texas school books. You may attempt to impose your own definitions on the discussion all you like, but you do not define the terms of the debate. Never claimed I did. But, if you think those two terms are equivalent, we have no room for discussion. you have a good evening Your butthurt interests me. What in my statement above exactly do you disagree with? how you got butthurt out of what I typed is a mystery. Its like claiming someone who believes in theistic evolution is a Creationist. Yes, God is responsible for all of creation. But Creationist has a very specific meaning in discourse in the United States. I can't agree that the US is a Christian nation because that statement has several meanings. The U.S. is a nation comprised mostly of Christians. That is a matter of demographics. The U.S. is not a Christian nation in the same way Iran is a Christian nation or England is a Christian nation. Its the same statement I've made over and over again in this thread and many others. I'm not sure why its so controversial. /shrug So care to point out to me where you disagree with what I said above? |
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