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Posted: 11/23/2014 2:08:58 PM EDT
mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........?
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I agree we can do it, but I believe the numbers to be closer to 40-45 million illegals, and so does the barry admin based on the number of green cards they are trying to procur
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If the Nazis' could round up all those jews all over Europe in the 30s and 40s, then surely with today's technology and surveillance we can round up a bunch of illegals.
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We don't need to deport them. If we pass laws like Arizona did, then they will deport themselves. Make it so that an illegal cannot rent an apartment, buy property, enroll in school, obtain non-life threatening medical care, receive any government assistance and really punish those who hire these people. Not only will they stop coming here, the ones who are here will go home all by themselves.
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Necessity is the mother of innovation. Removal of necessity by way of welfare removes the incentive to innovate. Free markets and rule of law bring people here. Markets are being manipulated and laws abound, it'll be self correcting soon, much to everyone's dismay. Legal or illegal. |
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote I'm picturing a catapult on the grandest of scale. |
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote If they can't work, bank, buy or rent property, or collect benefits, they will leave on their own. |
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Who needs to deport 11M? Just quit issuing drivers liceses , welfare, section 8, medicaid, etc...
There needs to be something to discourage future illegal immigration, and this move by Obama will encourage it. Our immigration policies should be liberal, but have some teeth to enforcement. If we want to offer 1 million visas or work permits per year, or whatever the number is voted on and agreed upon, great. But enforce the law. That what people can't stand. |
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Think of all the jobs that would create, this administration doesn't want to create jobs.
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We can, but it would set back slightly the implementation of Cloward-Piven. It's about killing Esatdos Unidos and making this place a Turd World Nation. That's part of the "global adjustment process" or "global economic reset."
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If the Nazis' could round up all those jews all over Europe in the 30s and 40s, then surely with today's technology and surveillance we can round up a bunch of illegals. View Quote An Excellent point! If, however, a poor example. Some may jump to the conclusion that you're crafting a moral comparison between the current situation and the atrocities of the Holocaust. But I think most of us know that that would be a false equivalency. Technologically, speaking it would be easier today. Morally speaking, the two are worlds apart, but you know this, as do the majority of us on this site. Despite the tendency of the more simple minded among us to jump to short sighted conclusions, usually attributing those pisspoor summaries to things like racism, I think the majority of us know what you meant when used that example. tl;dr: nice try. |
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Quoted: We don't need to deport them. If we pass laws like Arizona did, then they will deport themselves. Make it so that an illegal cannot rent an apartment, buy property, enroll in school, obtain non-life threatening medical care, receive any government assistance and really punish those who hire these people. Not only will they stop coming here, the ones who are here will go home all by themselves. View Quote And will echo this like the last time you posted. Easiest ways to achieve deportation.
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You listed all wants at first, with some needs.
The last one we need but they don't want. |
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An Excellent point! If, however, a poor example. Some may jump to the conclusion that you're crafting a moral comparison between the current situation and the atrocities of the Holocaust. But I think most of us know that that would be a false equivalency. Technologically, speaking it would be easier today. Morally speaking, the two are worlds apart, but you know this, as do the majority of us on this site. Despite the tendency of the more simple minded among us to jump to short sighted conclusions, usually attributing those pisspoor summaries to things like racism, I think the majority of us know what you meant when used that example. tl;dr: nice try. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Nazis' could round up all those jews all over Europe in the 30s and 40s, then surely with today's technology and surveillance we can round up a bunch of illegals. An Excellent point! If, however, a poor example. Some may jump to the conclusion that you're crafting a moral comparison between the current situation and the atrocities of the Holocaust. But I think most of us know that that would be a false equivalency. Technologically, speaking it would be easier today. Morally speaking, the two are worlds apart, but you know this, as do the majority of us on this site. Despite the tendency of the more simple minded among us to jump to short sighted conclusions, usually attributing those pisspoor summaries to things like racism, I think the majority of us know what you meant when used that example. tl;dr: nice try. Look up Operation Wetback under the Eisenhower administration......... |
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Because it's neither fair nor practical (just like banning Ebola flights or enforcing quarantines) to which I retort: neither is rounding up and confiscating millions of firearms. "But that's different." |
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We don't need to round them all up and deport them. Make the punishment for employing them so punitive, no one will give them work. No handouts, no education, no healthcare, no support. They will leave or starve. Charge the ones who stay and are caught doing anything illegal and throw the immigration law violations on top of that. Lock them up until you get a plane load. Take them to the airport wherever they came from and dump them off. The plane ride will be much cheaper than taking care of them here. We just need the majority in Congress to stop being concerned about being called names, show some guts and courage, and decide they are going to do what's best for the nation. They have 2 years to fix this shit. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3YmMNpbFjp0/hqdefault.jpg View Quote You mean enforce the laws we already have? I see a lot of presidential vetoes in our future. |
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Look up Operation Wetback under the Eisenhower administration......... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Nazis' could round up all those jews all over Europe in the 30s and 40s, then surely with today's technology and surveillance we can round up a bunch of illegals. An Excellent point! If, however, a poor example. Some may jump to the conclusion that you're crafting a moral comparison between the current situation and the atrocities of the Holocaust. But I think most of us know that that would be a false equivalency. Technologically, speaking it would be easier today. Morally speaking, the two are worlds apart, but you know this, as do the majority of us on this site. Despite the tendency of the more simple minded among us to jump to short sighted conclusions, usually attributing those pisspoor summaries to things like racism, I think the majority of us know what you meant when used that example. tl;dr: nice try. Look up Operation Wetback under the Eisenhower administration......... Ignore my tl;dr, read what I was responding to, then read what I wrote. |
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote This quote from Ian Fleming: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.” is somehow fitting. There are many reasons for either political side(s) to want this unconstitutional decision of the president to continue unchecked. They all benefit in someway. (I think that we can guess how) One more Less brick in the wall. |
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President Eisenhower deported 1.3 million illegals in 1954 during Operation Wetback.
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Liberals say, so by default you know they are wrong. |
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We don't need to deport them. If we pass laws like Arizona did, then they will deport themselves. Make it so that an illegal cannot rent an apartment, buy property, enroll in school, obtain non-life threatening medical care, receive any government assistance and really punish those who hire these people. Not only will they stop coming here, the ones who are here will go home all by themselves. View Quote this is a good start - pull the plug on any and all funds and or benefits they get the rest that insist on staying will just be deported. |
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We don't need to deport them. If we pass laws like Arizona did, then they will deport themselves. Make it so that an illegal cannot rent an apartment, buy property, enroll in school, obtain non-life threatening medical care, receive any government assistance and really punish those who hire these people. Not only will they stop coming here, the ones who are here will go home all by themselves. View Quote |
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its insane to think that we couldnt find 75-80% of all illegals and send them to wherever they came from.
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Wars are won in the will. We are fighting in the wrong field with wrong leaders. |
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Obviously you are all just racists that hate brown people.
At least that's what Miami_JBT taught me. |
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. |
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I agree we can do it, but I believe the numbers to be closer to 40-45 million illegals, and so does the barry admin based on the number of green cards they are trying to procur View Quote Just for argument's sake, let's say the number is 20 million. Using that number, how many births will take place from that group in the next 2-3 years, all of whom will be U.S. citizens by birth? Nobody is being deported. Nobody. |
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They need the population growth to keep the Ponzi scheme going.
No way the right is going to agree to increase the payroll tax cap. No way the left is going to agree to cut benefits. Sound and fury. |
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Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. Not arguing the case, same could be said of the Russians, let's just agree that the US and Russia both got a head start from their captured German Nazi Rocketeers. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. I never denied this. But at least give us credit for tipping the scales in your favor in both instances and thereby making the difference. Besides once in, I think you would agree that our contributions were very significant. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. Not arguing the invention of the steam engine (Hell if you really want to get picky you could if you want to go back to a guy named Hero he most definitely not a Brit), but rather the feat of creating the actual Coast to Coast RR.It all came together under the auspices of US investors and the labor of legal emigrants. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Not arguing that we invented the dam, rather that we were able to accomplish the goal of damming major rivers. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The Wright Brothers before they accomplished powered flight, were also pretty good glider manufacturers, Bell also claimed to have had experimented with powered flight, you forgot to mention Charles Renard and Arthur Krebs. Neither of which was Brit. yes I do know about Whittle. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. An arc lamp is not an incandescent bulb. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. Not arguing the case, same could be said of the Russians, let's just agree that the US and Russia both got a head start from their captured German Nazi Rocketeers. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. I never denied this. But at least give us credit for tipping the scales in your favor in both instances and thereby making the difference. Besides once in, I think you would agree that our contributions were very significant. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. Not arguing the invention of the steam engine (Hell if you really want to get picky you could if you want to go back to a guy named Hero he most definitely not a Brit), but rather the feat of creating the actual Coast to Coast RR.It all came together under the auspices of US investors and the labor of legal emigrants. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Not arguing that we invented the dam, rather that we were able to accomplish the goal of damming major rivers. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The Wright Brothers before they accomplished powered flight, were also pretty good glider manufacturers, Bell also claimed to have had experimented with powered flight, you forgot to mention Charles Renard and Arthur Krebs. Neither of which was Brit. yes I do know about Whittle. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. An arc lamp is not an incandescent bulb. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. AF, while it is probably not obvious I was suggesting that we can accomplish great things when we set our minds to it. So why is it impossible for us to find those breaking the law and deal with them? I think that we should be able to agree that the one that gets credit is usually standing on the shoulders of giants when he does so. |
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President Eisenhower deported 1.3 million illegals in 1954 during Operation Wetback. View Quote I thought that most of those folks returned of their own volition when they learned that those that were rounded up were being returned to the interior of Mexico, rather than just across the border. All he had to do was set the example... |
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By importing the turd world and giving their crotchfruit citezenship, the leftists ensure we will never accomplish anything grand again... except failure, famine, rebellion and totalitarianism.
Just like where the human refuse we import came from. |
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Nobody wanted the Irish either. Then again, there was no free shit gravy train to sign up for back then.
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Intercontinental railroad? With which continent besides North America do our railroads connect?
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Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. Now that's just mean. True but still mean. |
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Just stand a cop in every Western Union and check the papers of anyone trying to send money to South America. That'd get a huge chunk of the illegal population in like 3 days.
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? View Quote Hire an illegal and you didn't use everify, sorry you're going to prison. I think that would be a good start. |
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We don't need to deport them. If we pass laws like Arizona did, then they will deport themselves. Make it so that an illegal cannot rent an apartment, buy property, enroll in school, obtain non-life threatening medical care, receive any government assistance and really punish those who hire these people. Not only will they stop coming here, the ones who are here will go home all by themselves. View Quote Yep, it wouldn't be difficult if we made helping known illegals a crime with some serious teeth. |
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AF, while it is probably not obvious I was suggesting that we can accomplish great things when we set our minds to it. So why is it impossible for us to find those breaking the law and deal with them? I think that we should be able to agree that the one that gets credit is usually standing on the shoulders of giants when he does so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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mighty rivers, our inventors invented manned powered flight, we invented the light bulb, Who says that we can not manage to find and deport 11 to 20M illegal aliens........? Your rocket technology was brought to you by a German. Yet what is overlooked is that while the great bulk of those involved in putting a man on the moon were indeed American citizens, there was also a significant foreign contribution, in particular from Britain. One engineer was so important that President Nixon would later admit that without his work, the Moon landing of July 21, 1969 would have been impossible. Brits such as Keith Wright, Peter Armitage, Thomas Chambers, Norman Farmer and the more well known Francis Thomas Bacon who was so awesome even his surname is is Arcom's favourite pork savoury treat. Not arguing the case, same could be said of the Russians, let's just agree that the US and Russia both got a head start from their captured German Nazi Rocketeers. You fought alongside allies in both World Wars and showed up late to both. The Brits stood fast in both conflicts. I never denied this. But at least give us credit for tipping the scales in your favor in both instances and thereby making the difference. Besides once in, I think you would agree that our contributions were very significant. William Jessop, a Brit, invented the first wagons to run on flanged wheels and Steam Engines that ran on your RRs were invented by Richard Trevithick, a Brit. The first steel rail in the world was made in England in the mid-1850s. In 1820, John Birkenshaw, a Brit, introduced a method of rolling rails in greater lengths using wrought iron which was used from then onwards, making intercontinental rail travel a reality. Not arguing the invention of the steam engine (Hell if you really want to get picky you could if you want to go back to a guy named Hero he most definitely not a Brit), but rather the feat of creating the actual Coast to Coast RR.It all came together under the auspices of US investors and the labor of legal emigrants. The first dams are recorded to have been built in Jordan around 3000BC. The 75-miles dam near Warwick, Australia was possibly the world's first concrete arch dam. Designed by Henry Charles Stanley in 1880 with an overflow spillway and a special water outlet, it was eventually heightened to 10 metres. Henry Charles Stanley was also a Brit. Not arguing that we invented the dam, rather that we were able to accomplish the goal of damming major rivers. Sir George Cayley was the father of flight, attaining the first glider flight and going on to describe the principles of an air/fuel combustion powered flight back in 1810. In 1808 he literally reinvented the wheel by devising the tension spoked system. Sir George Cayley was a Brit. The Wright Brothers before they accomplished powered flight, were also pretty good glider manufacturers, Bell also claimed to have had experimented with powered flight, you forgot to mention Charles Renard and Arthur Krebs. Neither of which was Brit. yes I do know about Whittle. The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, a British scientist. An arc lamp is not an incandescent bulb. You are now relying on a Kenyan Democrat to try and resolve your concerns over illegal immigration and wonder why you are buggered. AF, while it is probably not obvious I was suggesting that we can accomplish great things when we set our minds to it. So why is it impossible for us to find those breaking the law and deal with them? I think that we should be able to agree that the one that gets credit is usually standing on the shoulders of giants when he does so. Just a bit of fun, mate. America has this history of partnerships with great nations and yet the Democrats elected an incompetent nobody Democrat as President and winder why things turn to rat-shit. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. |
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