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Posted: 11/23/2014 3:10:04 AM EDT
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It's always bothered me that there wasn't better intelligence on this mission. It would seem that if the Americans were moved in July then U.S. command should have known this by November. Maybe I'm completely off-base on this though. I enjoyed the Tom Clancy follow-up in Without Remorse. Maybe there's more truth to that book than fiction. Dammit, another reason I need to read that book! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:47:15 AM EDT
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Wasn't that raid also the debut of red dot optics for the US military? Yes, and they used both mechanical and ballistic breaching methods no one had ever used before. There was no unit at the time that was capable of that mission, so they built a unit from scratch. It highlighted a gap in capabilities, and also the likelihood of failure if the US didn't maintain a unit that could be there yesterday. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:49:14 AM EDT
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Doesn't this show the need for trained troops to be ready to do such a raid? From my memory doing long range hostage rescue was not in standard SF training in those days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Son Tay is the consummate example of the a good plan executed violently is infinitely superior to the perfect plan executed too late. The mission failed. Not to take anything away from the men who executed it, but 6 months to plan a raid is a raid operating on expired intelligence. Doesn't this show the need for trained troops to be ready to do such a raid? From my memory doing long range hostage rescue was not in standard SF training in those days. HR is still not a core SF task for the A team. There are SF units that do it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 7:24:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very good book. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Army Colonel "Bull" Simons This is who Ross Perot went to for planning the extraction of his employees from Iran. 'On Wings of Eagles' is a great book on the matter. Very good book. |
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