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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Federal judge considers holding D.C. in contempt over gun laws

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:22:21 PM EDT

A federal judge is weighing a request to hold the District in contempt of court for enacting new gun laws that are so restrictive as to be out of compliance with his order to allow for concealed carry in the city.

During a hearing Thursday, U.S. District Judge Frederick J. Scullin Jr. asked the city and the plaintiffs fighting the regulations for additional filings on whether the city should be considered in contempt of his order that officials develop a licensing scheme “consistent with constitutional standards enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

Attorney Alan Gura, who is representing four gun owners in the 2009 Palmer v. District case, argued that, despite passing new laws that allow for concealed carry, the District has not lived up to its court-ordered obligation because the plaintiffs he is representing are still unable to obtain gun-carry permits under the city’s strict regulations.

“There is no way in the world my clients can obtain a license to carry a gun,” Mr. Gura said in court Thursday, noting that they are unable to prove they are under a specific threat as required by the regulations.

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Posted: 11/21/2014 2:23:43 PM EDT

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Good.

It should be SHALL ISSUE

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:24:41 PM EDT

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Nation's Capitol : least free place in the country. Go figure.

Hope they stick it to 'em.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:24:48 PM EDT

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This ^^^. Throw some of those assholes in jail.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:29:08 PM EDT

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I have the strangest boner right now...

Hope the judge follows thru.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:29:18 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/21/2014 2:30:40 PM EDT

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It's a funny world where people can win a case and not get the relief that was ordered.

I hope the judge crams it down their necks!

(derp)

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:32:57 PM EDT

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It's funny we are going on year two of Shall Issue to 18 yr old folks and blood is not flowing in the streets.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:34:16 PM EDT

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The streets are not red?

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:34:40 PM EDT

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I hope the judge crams it down their throughts.

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"There is no way in the world my clients can obtain a license to carry a gun,” Mr. Gura said in court Thursday, noting that they are unable to prove they are under a specific threat as required by the regulations.

It's a funny world where people can win a case and not get the relief that was ordered.

I hope the judge crams it down their throughts.

Who knew throats have thoughts?

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:34:53 PM EDT

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DC being a bunch of dicks? Wow.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:38:03 PM EDT

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Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:52:17 PM EDT

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DO IT! DC copied their law almost verbatim from Maryland's law, since the MD law was already found "constitutional" by an appeals court. This directly conflicted with the Illinois case, but the Supremes didn't take the case up. But this has the potential to set up a conflict they cannot ignore - identical laws in 2 jurisdictions that are literally right next to each other.

Posted: 11/21/2014 2:56:26 PM EDT

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LOL. DC won't care. They'll just come up with a brand new way to not meet the intent of the ruling.

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:00:23 PM EDT

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Or they'll strip out some of the most onerous of the may-issue part, and try impossible to meet training requirements and/or astronomical fees.

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:04:41 PM EDT

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Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

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Nation's Capitol : least free place in the country. Go figure.

Hope they stick it to 'em.

Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/haZrn1gyr.p2yARy84jFzw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9Njk7dz02NzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/784c1424e1727a26610f6a7067003b4d.jpg

Would it warm your heart if I told you I pulled a wheelie flipping around on Independence trying to get back to the Arlington Memorial Bridge? ... and didn't spend nary a penny?

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:06:20 PM EDT

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Nation's Capitol : least free place in the country. Go figure.

Hope they stick it to 'em.

Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/haZrn1gyr.p2yARy84jFzw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9Njk7dz02NzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/784c1424e1727a26610f6a7067003b4d.jpg

Would it warm your heart if I told you I pulled a wheelie flipping around on Independence trying to get back to the Arlington Memorial Bridge? ... and didn't spend nary a penny?

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:09:32 PM EDT

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So, who is going to jail over this?

Nobody? What I figured.

Tyrants will be tyrants without repercussions

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:13:24 PM EDT

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Unless the Judge is going to order marshals to hog tie, taze and rinse off some hickory shampoo from the city counsel with FoxLabs 5.3 his contempt means shit.

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:13:50 PM EDT

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I hope the Judge socks it to 'em hard!

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:14:35 PM EDT

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Then there is the issue of how to get ammo into DC

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:26:03 PM EDT

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Or they'll strip out some of the most onerous of the may-issue part, and try impossible to meet training requirements and/or astronomical fees.

Yep. They have all the tax dollars they'll need to fight the ensuing legal challenges.

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:37:13 PM EDT

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A single muzzleloader bullet gets you jail time.

Posted: 11/21/2014 3:39:50 PM EDT

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Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/haZrn1gyr.p2yARy84jFzw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9Njk7dz02NzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/784c1424e1727a26610f6a7067003b4d.jpg

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Nation's Capitol : least free place in the country. Go figure.

Hope they stick it to 'em.

Fuck DC. Nobody should go there and spend nary a penny.

The way it's going you will need binoculars to see Pedro mowing the WH lawn before long.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/haZrn1gyr.p2yARy84jFzw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztweG9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9Njk7dz02NzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/784c1424e1727a26610f6a7067003b4d.jpg

and to think, Americans used to be able to walk on the WH grounds and even go inside the WH and walk around on their own