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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:40:43 PM EDT
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I'm 100% certain you're going to die.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:41:57 PM EDT
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I fall asleep from time to time in my Lazyboy without it.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:42:10 PM EDT
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87%. Dibs.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:53:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I fall asleep from time to time in my Lazyboy without it. Same here. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 6:28:47 AM EDT
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I'm 100% certain you're going to die. Eventually. i agree. dibs on ammo and wife. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 6:31:44 AM EDT
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Yes any sleep could now be fatal. I recommend a steady diet of meth, cocaine and Red Bull.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 6:32:00 AM EDT
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I'll call seconds on the wife, but I want pics before I commit to ANYTHING.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 8:54:41 AM EDT
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You can sleep without it but it will not be a restfull sleep.I will nap in the evening on the couch sometimes. I also have restless leg syndrom and many a night it would drive me out of my bed away from my machine. I would sleep on the couch but never a good sleep no matter how long I could get. I ended up finding a second machine on CL and keep that downstairs next to the couch, I sleep much better now if I have to sleep on the couch.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 9:27:40 AM EDT
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I have gotten to the point where I can't sleep without it. Keep choking and waking myself up. Also headaches when I come too. I think sometimes when you hear of old people with hypertension that die in there sleep that its more likely sleep apnea.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 10:50:28 AM EDT
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I have gotten to the point where I can't sleep without it. Keep choking and waking myself up. Also headaches when I come too. I think sometimes when you hear of old people with hypertension that die in there sleep that its more likely sleep apnea. What does hypertension have to do with it? |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:34:38 AM EDT
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What kind of apnea do you have? Constrictive or central? If it's central it's tougher to treat. I have constrictive and had a UP3/Tonsilectomy to correct and that made a big difference. I couldn't use the CPAP it was just too invasive. I still need my nasal passages roto-rootered but the UP3/Tonsilectomy was extremely painful and invasive and took me down for a few weeks. I'm just not ready for the final surgery and at this point I don't know if its needed.
Before I had the surgery, as a temporary measure, I was taking a 24 hour allegra (generic), doing 2 saline flushes a day followed by a squirt of flonase in each nostril and that reduced my apnea events over 50% in my sleep study.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:40:09 AM EDT
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What does hypertension have to do with it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have gotten to the point where I can't sleep without it. Keep choking and waking myself up. Also headaches when I come too. I think sometimes when you hear of old people with hypertension that die in there sleep that its more likely sleep apnea. What does hypertension have to do with it? Your body doesn't rest, and each time you "choke", your body reacts to a threat. Bad combination. I can say I dream much more often and much more vividly since I started using CPAP... |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your body doesn't rest, and each time you "choke", your body reacts to a threat. Bad combination. I can say I dream much more often and much more vividly since I started using CPAP... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have gotten to the point where I can't sleep without it. Keep choking and waking myself up. Also headaches when I come too. I think sometimes when you hear of old people with hypertension that die in there sleep that its more likely sleep apnea. What does hypertension have to do with it? Your body doesn't rest, and each time you "choke", your body reacts to a threat. Bad combination. I can say I dream much more often and much more vividly since I started using CPAP... Reducing my apnea made EVERYTHING better. I'm a type 1 diabetic and once I started sleeping better my blood pressure, stress, overall well being, and blood sugar levels were the best they ever have been. It was really scary how much of a vicious cycle poor sleeping causes to the body mentally and physically.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:54:48 AM EDT
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Any sleep without your CPAP/APAP is dangerous and you can't just say "I'm only taking a nap" (rhetorically speaking only because I guess you can.) Your breathing stops, your blood oxygen drops, and damage to your body starts to occur. Your risk of high blood pressure and heart disease increases as well as other health problems. Your blood oxygen can easily drop into the 60-70% range. What was your PO2 during your sleep study? There's a good thread here on apnea where a sleep tech weighs in on the dangers. Look it up. Don't do it, its's a very dangerous habit.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:55:09 AM EDT
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how did you sleep before you knew you had sleep apnea. I imagine it would be about the same.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:48:39 PM EDT
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I was diagnosed with sleep apnea 3 years ago, went through a sleep study and have been using a CPAP ever since then. My setting is at 8 but my wife says I still snore so I went back to the clinic and they changed my set number from an 8 to an automaticlly adjusting number...an APAP. One question I didn't think to ask is all forms of sleep/naps dangerous without the APAP or is the occasional dozing without it safe enough? Thanks for any and all input. FWIW I was told in no uncertain terms to use mine napping. YMMV |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:58:11 PM EDT
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Are you overweight?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:48:55 PM EDT
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Depending on the individual, there is probably SOME difference in the severity of their apnea when comparing sleeping while lying down in bed vs. sleeping (semi-upright) in a recliner. Just guessing...
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes any sleep could now be fatal. I recommend a steady diet of meth, cocaine and Red Bull. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:15:35 PM EDT
[#20]
I fall asleep without mine on quite a bit.
A coworker told me his Dr said if he didn't start using one he would be dead by the time he was 50. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:28:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of apnea do you have? Constrictive or central? If it's central it's tougher to treat. I have constrictive and had a UP3/Tonsilectomy to correct and that made a big difference. I couldn't use the CPAP it was just too invasive. I still need my nasal passages roto-rootered but the UP3/Tonsilectomy was extremely painful and invasive and took me down for a few weeks. I'm just not ready for the final surgery and at this point I don't know if its needed. Before I had the surgery, as a temporary measure, I was taking a 24 hour allegra (generic), doing 2 saline flushes a day followed by a squirt of flonase in each nostril and that reduced my apnea events over 50% in my sleep study. That's a good question, I really don't know if it's constrictive or central. I've got another appointment Dec. 3rd and I'll be sure to ask. The doctor hasn't been too good with giving me info. I had to insist on them checking to see if my pressure needed had changed and that's when he finally set it on APAP settings. Doing much better with that. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any sleep without your CPAP/APAP is dangerous and you can't just say "I'm only taking a nap" (rhetorically speaking only because I guess you can.) Your breathing stops, your blood oxygen drops, and damage to your body starts to occur. Your risk of high blood pressure and heart disease increases as well as other health problems. Your blood oxygen can easily drop into the 60-70% range. What was your PO2 during your sleep study? There's a good thread here on apnea where a sleep tech weighs in on the dangers. Look it up. Don't do it, its's a very dangerous habit. Thank you! I simple straightforward answer...and it makes more sense when you put it like that. And I'll look up the thread you are talking about. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how did you sleep before you knew you had sleep apnea. I imagine it would be about the same. I never felt rested, even after a quick nap. Now, I can't tell much difference. I think that's because I sleep better at nights now that my machine is set on auto. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you overweight? Yep. Now that I'm resting better, I'm beginning to get more active so I plan on knocking down as much fat as I can. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I fall asleep without mine on quite a bit. A coworker told me his Dr said if he didn't start using one he would be dead by the time he was 50. I'm in to overtime...I'm 53. Still, I've gotten the idea from everyone here that I better wear it every time I doze. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:40:06 PM EDT
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My CPAP had changed my life. I got it there weeks ago. I was diagnosed with severe constricted apnea. My seeing is 18! Therapist said I was living on day dreams.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My CPAP had changed my life. I got it there weeks ago. I was diagnosed with severe constricted apnea. My seeing is 18! Therapist said I was living on day dreams. Damn! Glad you got it! My setting was on 8 and it didn't seem to do much good but the auto setting has been great. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in to overtime...I'm 53. Still, I've gotten the idea from everyone here that I better wear it every time I doze. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I fall asleep without mine on quite a bit. A coworker told me his Dr said if he didn't start using one he would be dead by the time he was 50. I'm in to overtime...I'm 53. Still, I've gotten the idea from everyone here that I better wear it every time I doze. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:12:59 PM EDT
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I've been told I snore bad sometimes and it's not uncommon for me to wake up choking or gasping for air.
Do I have sleep apnea? - 29/not overweight at all. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:16:23 PM EDT
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I've been told I snore bad sometimes and it's not uncommon for me to wake up choking or gasping for air. Do I have sleep apnea? - 29/not overweight at all. Most likely, yes. There are other factors than just obesity, but that and a neck size over 18" are the two biggest indicators. Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:17:05 PM EDT
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If you fall asleep, the clowns will eat you.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:25:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I fall asleep without mine on quite a bit. A coworker told me his Dr said if he didn't start using one he would be dead by the time he was 50. I'm in to overtime...I'm 53. Still, I've gotten the idea from everyone here that I better wear it every time I doze. Ummm... I don't know. The doctor did a consultation with me and got the read out from my chipthen set the machine to the APAP setting. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:29:14 PM EDT
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If I nap with out my CPAP I wake up with a splitting head ache from starving my brain of O2.
I wouldn't say it's dangerous but damn sure not wise. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I nap with out my CPAP I wake up with a splitting head ache from starving my brain of O2. I wouldn't say it's dangerous but damn sure not wise. The more I read the more I believe you are right. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: why is your doctor screwing around with your machine? A respiratory technician should be setting it up for you...and doing follow ups with you.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I fall asleep without mine on quite a bit. A coworker told me his Dr said if he didn't start using one he would be dead by the time he was 50. I'm in to overtime...I'm 53. Still, I've gotten the idea from everyone here that I better wear it every time I doze. Ummm... I don't know. The doctor did a consultation with me and got the read out from my chipthen set the machine to the APAP setting. you weren't sent to a sleep clinic..or at lest to people that deal in sleep apnea? |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:36:39 AM EDT
[#36]
I need to get tested
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:38:01 AM EDT
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on really bad pollen days i have been known to just go breath on the cpap for an hour or so. helps with the allergies a good bit too.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:41:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Before I had the surgery, as a temporary measure, I was taking a 24 hour allegra (generic), doing 2 saline flushes a day followed by a squirt of flonase in each nostril and that reduced my apnea events over 50% in my sleep study. That's a good question, I really don't know if it's constrictive or central. I've got another appointment Dec. 3rd and I'll be sure to ask. The doctor hasn't been too good with giving me info. I had to insist on them checking to see if my pressure needed had changed and that's when he finally set it on APAP settings. Doing much better with that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What kind of apnea do you have? Constrictive or central? If it's central it's tougher to treat. I have constrictive and had a UP3/Tonsilectomy to correct and that made a big difference. I couldn't use the CPAP it was just too invasive. I still need my nasal passages roto-rootered but the UP3/Tonsilectomy was extremely painful and invasive and took me down for a few weeks. I'm just not ready for the final surgery and at this point I don't know if its needed. That's a good question, I really don't know if it's constrictive or central. I've got another appointment Dec. 3rd and I'll be sure to ask. The doctor hasn't been too good with giving me info. I had to insist on them checking to see if my pressure needed had changed and that's when he finally set it on APAP settings. Doing much better with that. I have Central Apnea. They use a VPAP machine to treat. Expensive little buggers. Works like a charm tough. You can apparently use a normal CPAP machine to treat Central, but it requires a jacked up pressure setting. To the point your eyes feel like they are going to pop out of your head. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:44:45 AM EDT
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I was diagnosed with it from a sleep study years ago, the machine was horrible back then. Haven't used it since then. I come home from work and take a shower, sleep for about two to three hours then get up and eat dinner, watch some tv and go back to sleep. I feel better rested. The machines are much better now.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:56:31 AM EDT
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Mine is set at 16. When I had my study done I was told the longest period I stopped breathing for was 43 seconds. I stopped breathing over 400 times total during the study. Only time I don't use my machine is if I'm stupid enough to fall asleep before putting the mask on.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:08:19 AM EDT
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I think CVS pharmacy sells a finger pulse oximeter which comes with a wrist strap. Whether it records over an 8 hour period while you're sleeping...I don't know.
On a related note, it would be kinda neat to have a CPAP machine with input for an oximeter. The data gets saved to the chip. Then the sleep technician could plot CPAP performance (pressures) vs. O2 levels. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:16:01 AM EDT
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The average General Practitioner doesn't know shit from shinola about obstructive apnea. You need to see a specialist, do the sleep study, and do what they say. Your doctor will prescribe the equipment, but he/she may or may not be familiar with different machines/masks. This leaves you at the mercy of the local medical device supplier, who, like insurance and car sales people, will sell you the stuff that makes them the most money.
My first cpap machine cost me $750, the mask was $250. There are many places online which will sell cpap machines, masks, and accessories with a RX. The nasal mask I paid $250 was available online for $68-same manufacturer, same model. If you have no insurance, this makes a big difference. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:16:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The average General Practitioner doesn't know shit from shinola about obstructive apnea. You need to see a specialist, do the sleep study, and do what they say. Your doctor will prescribe the equipment, but he/she may or may not be familiar with different machines/masks. This leaves you at the mercy of the local medical device supplier, who, like insurance and car sales people, will sell you the stuff that makes them the most money. My first cpap machine cost me $750, the mask was $250. There are many places online which will sell cpap machines, masks, and accessories with a RX. The nasal mask I paid $250 was available online for $68-same manufacturer, same model. If you have no insurance, this makes a big difference. Or if your insurance is rather junky for DME, I only get 50% reimbursed, most online dealers send you a receipt with all of the billing codes, etc, needed to submit it to your insurance company to be reimbursed. Kharn |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:18:23 PM EDT
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When I went for a sleep study I told the nurse I sleep in the nude.
She was like 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:36:05 PM EDT
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You can trust this man... he's pre-med.
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Yes any sleep could now be fatal. I recommend a steady diet of meth, cocaine and Red Bull. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 7:24:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can trust this man... he's pre-med. Quote HistoryQuoted: You can trust this man... he's pre-med. Quoted: Yes any sleep could now be fatal. I recommend a steady diet of meth, cocaine and Red Bull. |
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