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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:14:55 AM EDT
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I want to sbr one of these. And use mystic x on it.
Is.the fake can removable? Whats the best route to a factory stock sbr? Id rather from 1 it than have it sit idle for 9 months |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:17:19 AM EDT
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I want to sbr one of these. And use mystic x on it. Is.the fake can removable? Whats the best route to a factory stock sbr? Id rather from 1 it than have it sit idle for 9 months What fake can? These are coming in as pistols, you'll need to add a stock, that's it. No one has these in hand yet so no one knows what that's going to entail. No one knows yet what other factory parts are going to be available. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:19:10 AM EDT
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That is gay. If the ATF believes you have a legitimate business, what are distributors worried about? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ordered several from every distributor I could today! Not in stock yet, but orders placed! My distributors don't have them listed yet. Shitty thing about not having a retail store front.  Can a non ffl order from a distributor? If so which ones? Some might, I don't know. I'm an 07 FFL and my shop is behind my house, and while I do have open hours, most distributors want an address separate from your home, and photos of your store front, sign, and display area. The core of my business is doing work for retail shops. That is gay. If the ATF believes you have a legitimate business, what are distributors worried about? No idea, but the majority of distributors do it. And it's the best distributors too. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:19:57 AM EDT
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These are the first CZ's I ever wanted. None of the pistols ever did anything for you? |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:22:28 AM EDT
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Well then...Your wish is granted https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/sa-vz61-scorpions In .32, .380, and 9mm mak 
BTW that company is GTG and imports quality guns direct from the Czech Republic, not century arms abortions. Not affiliated, just ordered from them several times before. Great Customer Service. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do want  .
I just got an adapter for my vz 61 scorpion pistol in .32 auto so I can SBR it. I think it needs a brother Those are full of want for me too. Mainly because I already have some .32 pistols, so fuck it....might as well justify a need for ammo with a vz 61 too. Wish they were still bringing them into the country. Well then...Your wish is granted https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/sa-vz61-scorpions In .32, .380, and 9mm mak
BTW that company is GTG and imports quality guns direct from the Czech Republic, not century arms abortions. Not affiliated, just ordered from them several times before. Great Customer Service. .32 and .380? Damn it, now I have to buy two.... |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:24:14 AM EDT
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These are the first CZ's I ever wanted. None of the pistols ever did anything for you? Me too. Other than the C&R CZ52 nothing really..... |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:25:08 AM EDT
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What is the price on the CZ 75 mags? OEM mags are on the high end here so I'm surprised the 30 rounders are so cheap. For comparison sake, do you know what HK UMP mags go for there? OEM CZ75 mags were $13 last year. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:49:05 AM EDT
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So pistol only?
Surely they will sell stocks to those who want to sbr, unless they are made so you cannot install a stock. Id rather just add the stock. I saw the sig brace, not interested. I would assume we dont know much about the stock availability or how it mounts? |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:07:34 PM EDT
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So there...
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:10:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:56:42 PM EDT
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So pistol only? Surely they will sell stocks to those who want to sbr, unless they are made so you cannot install a stock. Id rather just add the stock. I saw the sig brace, not interested. I would assume we dont know much about the stock availability or how it mounts? Sig brace is a hold over type thing for some. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 14mm i believe hmm, maybe a market in making 14mm to 1/2-28 adapters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sub $20 mags? Time to hit the abort button on my 9mm AR. Is it going to be threaded 1/2-28? 14mm i believe hmm, maybe a market in making 14mm to 1/2-28 adapters. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:28:30 PM EDT
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Sub $20 mags? Time to hit the abort button on my 9mm AR. Is it going to be threaded 1/2-28? 14mm i believe hmm, maybe a market in making 14mm to 1/2-28 adapters. 3 Lug! Then I can use my Mk-9k on it. 
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:42:37 PM EDT
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Sub $20 mags? Time to hit the abort button on my 9mm AR. Is it going to be threaded 1/2-28? 14mm i believe hmm, maybe a market in making 14mm to 1/2-28 adapters. ^^^THIS! |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 10:41:33 PM EDT
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Me too. Other than the C&R CZ52 nothing really..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These are the first CZ's I ever wanted. None of the pistols ever did anything for you? Me too. Other than the C&R CZ52 nothing really..... Oops, I forgot about the CZ52 - I have one of those. But yeah, their modern pistols do nothing for me. And it's purely because I don't like the way they look. I'm shallow I guess. 
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:25:25 PM EDT
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So if the SIG brace is available, would that mean you could throw a normal AR buffer tube and stock on it once your stamp comes back? Not ideal, but if factory stocks aren't a possibility its be the next best thing. And depending on the the size of the market outside of this site that would SBR one, couldn't a third party make a stock relatively similar to the factory stock?
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:57:42 AM EDT
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So if the SIG brace is available, would that mean you could throw a normal AR buffer tube and stock on it once your stamp comes back? Not ideal, but if factory stocks aren't a possibility its be the next best thing. And depending on the the size of the market outside of this site that would SBR one, couldn't a third party make a stock relatively similar to the factory stock? There IS a company out there that makes a "FOLDING" stock for the AR-15. I does use the buffer tube/spring, buffer etc..... You could probably just use that adapter without any of the "GUTS", and have a folding AR style stock....Kinda pricey, but it would get it done.... |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 2:00:13 AM EDT
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There IS a company out there that makes a "FOLDING" stock for the AR-15. I does use the buffer tube/spring, buffer etc..... You could probably just use that adapter without any of the "GUTS", and have a folding AR style stock....Kinda pricey, but it would get it done.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So if the SIG brace is available, would that mean you could throw a normal AR buffer tube and stock on it once your stamp comes back? Not ideal, but if factory stocks aren't a possibility its be the next best thing. And depending on the the size of the market outside of this site that would SBR one, couldn't a third party make a stock relatively similar to the factory stock? There IS a company out there that makes a "FOLDING" stock for the AR-15. I does use the buffer tube/spring, buffer etc..... You could probably just use that adapter without any of the "GUTS", and have a folding AR style stock....Kinda pricey, but it would get it done.... The LAW folding adapter works fine with Sig 556s that have AR buffer tube lowers, I have to think it will work with the CZ just as well. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 10:03:15 AM EDT
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The LAW folding adapter works fine with Sig 556s that have AR buffer tube lowers, I have to think it will work with the CZ just as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So if the SIG brace is available, would that mean you could throw a normal AR buffer tube and stock on it once your stamp comes back? Not ideal, but if factory stocks aren't a possibility its be the next best thing. And depending on the the size of the market outside of this site that would SBR one, couldn't a third party make a stock relatively similar to the factory stock? There IS a company out there that makes a "FOLDING" stock for the AR-15. I does use the buffer tube/spring, buffer etc..... You could probably just use that adapter without any of the "GUTS", and have a folding AR style stock....Kinda pricey, but it would get it done.... The LAW folding adapter works fine with Sig 556s that have AR buffer tube lowers, I have to think it will work with the CZ just as well. Sig sells their own folding adapter for the 556. Some 556's come with it. My 556 Holo didn't so I bought one right after I got the rifle. It was about $100 but this was back in 2009. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 10:12:05 AM EDT
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The attachment system for the EVO is a vertical slot at the rear of the receiver, and takes less than a second to remove or attach whatever you're going to use. Don't be thinking of just AR tube folding stocks...
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:29:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI was thinking a direct adaptor to the CZ's slot, not a tube adaptor, but the ACE is the one I was thinking of.
From this pic, it is a mite easier to see the stock interface for the CZ: 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 6:07:03 PM EDT
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I think that if you actually get to the point that they're looking at your parts, they'll be able to bust you. I also think that if you actually get to the point that they're looking at your parts, you have bigger problems than 922(r). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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plus once these come out and people make aftermarket parts how can you tell if generic part A is American or imported. There are these guys called "firearm and toolmark examiners" who are pretty good at that. ATF employs a bunch of them. I think that if you actually get to the point that they're looking at your parts, they'll be able to bust you. I also think that if you actually get to the point that they're looking at your parts, you have bigger problems than 922(r). Very true. But a thing to think about is that it won't take much to get their attention nowadays. Bet trying to Form 1 an M16 through a trust is enough. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:23:30 PM EDT
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The attachment system for the EVO is a vertical slot at the rear of the receiver, and takes less than a second to remove or attach whatever you're going to use. Don't be thinking of just AR tube folding stocks... That would be fucking sexy with a Krink stock. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:47:12 PM EDT
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Trying to follow this thread but has anyone announced if they will be selling the original stock for SBR guns?
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:24:34 PM EDT
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Trying to follow this thread but has anyone announced if they will be selling the original stock for SBR guns? Yes. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 3:28:08 PM EDT
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Trying to follow this thread but has anyone announced if they will be selling the original stock for SBR guns? No word yet, but the general consensus is an aftermarket one will show up here pretty soon. Like, someone is already working on one, "soon". Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:11:02 PM EDT
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The only reason I would get one would be to SBR it asap.
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Posted: 11/30/2014 4:24:49 PM EDT
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From the CZ forum, thought I would cross-post it here to keep this thread up-to-date...
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Posted: 11/30/2014 4:44:07 PM EDT
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From the CZ forum, thought I would cross-post it here to keep this thread up-to-date... http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w603/Zach_Haag/Capture_zpse5366433.jpg 
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Posted: 11/30/2014 4:55:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2014 5:02:56 PM EDT
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Any word on a preorder link yet?
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Posted: 11/30/2014 5:10:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any word on a preorder link yet? This? I need one. I wanna secure one ASAP!
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Posted: 11/30/2014 5:12:45 PM EDT
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My LGS is expecting 5 in the first shipment, I'm number 6 on their preorder list. Hopefully someone backs out.
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Posted: 11/30/2014 5:13:33 PM EDT
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God damn every time this thread is bumped in my subs i get a little more excited. l talked to my dealer but he doesnt do much CZ. I need to find a place I can preorder this.
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Posted: 11/30/2014 5:15:43 PM EDT
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SBR is a must for that. Looks freakin sexy as hell with the stock.
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Posted: 12/1/2014 1:16:56 PM EDT
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barrel thread is 18mm x1mm
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Posted: 12/2/2014 1:35:28 AM EDT
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barrel thread is 18mm x1mm SO..... What suppressor will work with those threads???? |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 1:48:45 AM EDT
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I would really like to see an old school Scorpion pistol (but SBR friendly) in 9x18Mak. Czechpoint sells them now. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 5:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySame review I posted a few pages back. Worth watching if you're interested in this gun. I'm glad to see that CZ will be bringing stocks in. I'm wondering about the SBR... what part can/do you need to engrave? Isn't the whole chassis plastic? |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 5:28:55 AM EDT
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Serious question-
Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about 
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Posted: 12/2/2014 5:32:05 AM EDT
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barrel thread is 18mm x1mm SO..... What suppressor will work with those threads???? Someone will be making adaptors for various pitch conversions I bet, so I'd wait a bit when they come out. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 5:33:04 AM EDT
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Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about This 
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Posted: 12/2/2014 5:54:32 AM EDT
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This http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/files/Beretta_CX4%20copy.JPG VS This http://www.armurerie-douillet.com/custom/armurerie/produitphotos/produitphoto_4700/cz-scorpion-evo-3_4642.jpg (Well, what it hopefully can be)
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Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about This http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/files/Beretta_CX4%20copy.JPG VS This http://www.armurerie-douillet.com/custom/armurerie/produitphotos/produitphoto_4700/cz-scorpion-evo-3_4642.jpg (Well, what it hopefully can be)
But its still a 9mm. If it was 10mm or 7.62x 25, I could see it. So its a little smaller but who cares, it still has the same role in any application. I just don't understand the hysteria over this gun. 
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Posted: 12/2/2014 6:18:53 AM EDT
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Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about Kinda what I was thinking. What is the OAL of the CZ with the Sig brace installed? If its shorter than 29 inches, it's shorter than the Storm and there's its major appeal to me. Dont get me wrong, its a sexy looking gun, and I certainly wouldnt turn one down if given one... But I dont have enough disposable income at the moment to buy one... That could change in the future though. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 12:35:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about  |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 12:44:49 PM EDT
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Would like to see it made in 7.62x25 caliber...
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Posted: 12/2/2014 12:46:53 PM EDT
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Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about Because I can buy the CZ as a pistol, SBR it, throw on a folding stock and a 9mm can and not own something that like it was recovered from a fire on the set of a bad sci-fi B movie. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 12:51:02 PM EDT
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But its still a 9mm. If it was 10mm or 7.62x 25, I could see it. So its a little smaller but who cares, it still has the same role in any application. I just don't understand the hysteria over this gun.
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Serious question- Why not just get a Berretta Storm and be done with it? What's all the excitement about This http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/files/Beretta_CX4%20copy.JPG VS This http://www.armurerie-douillet.com/custom/armurerie/produitphotos/produitphoto_4700/cz-scorpion-evo-3_4642.jpg (Well, what it hopefully can be)
But its still a 9mm. If it was 10mm or 7.62x 25, I could see it. So its a little smaller but who cares, it still has the same role in any application. I just don't understand the hysteria over this gun.
It's a valid point but the Skorp has the potential to do a bunch of things better than the storm. Its almost like saying if your going to get a storm just get a hi point. A Skorp in Tok would be the cat's ass though. |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 12:55:50 PM EDT
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Why would 922(r) apply if you are SBRing it? Wouldn't the SBR be "manufactured" in the USA with the Form 1?
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