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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:10:03 PM EDT
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Slave labor is free
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:10:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Free stuff for everybody.
Peace and love. CEOs and deep fry operators get the same salary. I believe that most of the left's problem is that they have no ability to understand that their feel good fantasies can not work in reality. The conspiracy is over-rated. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:11:01 PM EDT
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Crab people
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:13:11 PM EDT
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Free stuff for everybody. Peace and love. CEOs and deep fry operators get the same salary. I believe that most of the left's problem is that they have no ability to understand that their feel good fantasies can not work in reality. The conspiracy is over-rated. I don't think it's a conspiracy, there are too many people involved. They HAVE to have a common goal, what is it, and how will they sustain it? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:14:47 PM EDT
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An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:16:09 PM EDT
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An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:16:52 PM EDT
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But where does the money come from to fund that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? Crony capitalism |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Think the Soviet Union with them as the Politburo.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:17:34 PM EDT
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The Left believes the Federal Government has too much power outside of its borders and not enough power within its borders.
Their foreign policy endgame is to strip America of most of it's ability to influence world affairs. Their domestic policy endgame is to move the country sharply to the Left by enforcing policy changes through Washington, DC. They will pay for this form of governance with "a heavily progressive income tax"... ...which was called for in the Second Plank of the Communist Manifesto of 1848. In the end, if you don't agree with them they want you to either emigrate, shut up, or die--and all the while you get to pay for it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:17:43 PM EDT
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A beautiful utopia of bureaucratic regulation and stifling oppression for the unwashed masses. Every life quantified, and categorized, for the 'benefit' of the state. A oneness, a sameness of unquestioning compliance and reverence for the religion of big government. A mass of government generated globby goey oneness with the universe. Nirvana.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:18:14 PM EDT
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Utopia.
I don't know if they really have an end game. They are the type of people who like control and need to be needed. They will just do what they can to keep that going. The useful idiots think they are doing the right thing. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:19:30 PM EDT
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Think the Soviet Union with them as the Politburo. Yup--research the Bolshevik revolution and what happened immediately after. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:20:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Do as they say, don't do as they do.
FBHO |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But where does the money come from to fund that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:21:08 PM EDT
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What is it they want exactly? I know they want total .gov control, but where will they get the money to run things? I don't think they're stupid, they have a plan...what is it? The vast majority of the Left in this country (and really the western world) are useful idiots. They are too stupid to look at history and see what happens when you get a government with the ideology and power that they want. The rest know what they are after and think they will be one of those in power. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:21:33 PM EDT
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Rush explained it once as being like an alcoholic wanting his next drink. They want more and more power and government control but really give no thought as to where it will end up or how it will be financed. They just want more.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:21:52 PM EDT
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If they aren't outright communists, they're model is France or Nordic countries.
Strong centralized government large social safety net, industry and business will still exist but it they will be inextricable linked to government. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:22:49 PM EDT
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No, they really are stupid. There are a few intelligent people at the top getting rich off the majority that are dumb as fucking rocks. They don't think logically they think with their heart, which doesn't fucking work.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:23:57 PM EDT
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they want us to be like Sweden, except with fat blonde chicks.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:24:02 PM EDT
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The 99% will have marginal living accommodations, limited wealth/assets and little self determination.
No inheritance, no luxuries, nothing more than the basics, communal living, a ruling elite who are protected by devote soldiers will decide the boundaries of free will or thought. There will be a huge social safety net, entitlements, living wage, and everything will be provided. The trade-off will be mandatory healthcare from cradle to grave, government education, mandatory pre-determination, mandatory government service, and government family planning. The movie "Divergent" gives a pretty good idea of what both parties are ultimately working towards. That story line is basically the ruling classes fighting between themselves using the soldiers as muscle. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:24:27 PM EDT
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The Keynesian printing press is actually quite amazing...
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:26:37 PM EDT
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I don't think it's a conspiracy, there are too many people involved. They HAVE to have a common goal, what is it, and how will they sustain it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Free stuff for everybody. Peace and love. CEOs and deep fry operators get the same salary. I believe that most of the left's problem is that they have no ability to understand that their feel good fantasies can not work in reality. The conspiracy is over-rated. I don't think it's a conspiracy, there are too many people involved. They HAVE to have a common goal, what is it, and how will they sustain it? Their goal is the endless pursuit of ideas that sound good but suck. Hubris is an essential element of the party platform. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:27:03 PM EDT
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"They" would rather kill off those that are not of their viewpoints in order to ensure they are the dominant species on the planet.
It always comes down to fighting for resources in one form or another. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:27:41 PM EDT
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Global Thermonuclear War is always the answer.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:28:35 PM EDT
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THX1138 and Brave New World are some of the blue prints they admire. The progressive utopia is a place where the collective is more is more important than the individual and the individual is a disposable commodity.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think it's a conspiracy, there are too many people involved. They HAVE to have a common goal, what is it, and how will they sustain it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Free stuff for everybody. Peace and love. CEOs and deep fry operators get the same salary. I believe that most of the left's problem is that they have no ability to understand that their feel good fantasies can not work in reality. The conspiracy is over-rated. I don't think it's a conspiracy, there are too many people involved. They HAVE to have a common goal, what is it, and how will they sustain it? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:28:57 PM EDT
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But where does the money come from to fund that? That's not really the point. There will be less money, but who will be the ones ordering people about and deciding what will be done? As long as it's the Left--or as they like to think, the enlightened, educated classes--it doesn't really matter that there will be less money. See places like Cuba or Venezuela. They ran the economy into the ground, but the people running things are the Right Sort of People. It's an expression of their will to power. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:29:30 PM EDT
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The only outcome is a total collapse of the country.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:31:51 PM EDT
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They want a safety net so if they screw up, or would prefer to pursue artistic endeavors vs. actually doing something productive, they still have the basic necessities of life.
They just don't understand that too many people doing that doesn't work out mathematically. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:36:44 PM EDT
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What is it they want exactly? I know they want total .gov control, but where will they get the money to run things? I don't think they're stupid, they have a plan...what is it? Socialist paradise is what the "useful idiots" want and expect. They don't understand that socialism/Marxism/Communism is broken because it's built on a faulty foundation. The Party Leadership wants either power or free stuff w/o doing any work. Is there a tier above that? Depends on if you listen to any conspiracy theories, and which ones. As Ian Flemming wrote "Once is coincidence, twice is chance. Three times is enemy action." There's too much going on behind the scenes for me to believe it's all coincidence, but I'm too busy with my life to buy as much tin foil as would be required to start chasing any of the numerous theories. All I can do is try to fight back at the local level to retain our rights and mock the idiocy of the Socialists when given the opportunity. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:39:52 PM EDT
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Utopia. I don't know if they really have an end game. They are the type of people who like control and need to be needed. They will just do what they can to keep that going. The useful idiots think they are doing the right thing. This. I don't think it is as much of an "end game" as much as they know if they keep their followers feeling like victims, they will keep having money and power. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But where does the money come from to fund that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? Unicorn tears create this wealth. If you want to have an aneurysm, talk economics with a "true-believer" leftist. Wealth for redistribution appears by magic from the evil rich when the correct policies are enacted.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:48:24 PM EDT
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Communism
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:49:57 PM EDT
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Communism Again, where does the money come from? Just enough for everyone to have a big screen TV, smart phone, new car etc... 
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:51:54 PM EDT
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Ever watch Star Trek: the New Generation?
The Left think that they will have that in just a few years if the "vast right-wing conspiracy" would just leave them alone. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:52:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: What is it they want exactly? I know they want total .gov control, but where will they get the money to run things? I don't think they're stupid, they have a plan...what is it? If you read their magazines like The Nation or Washington Monthly, there are ads for obscure causes you've never heard about. They're activists begging for money from other leftists for some cause.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Hopefully it involves... Nevermind. CoC
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:54:22 PM EDT
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Leadership wants useful idiots to vote them in power and keep them there.
Total domination over everyone via force or social engineering so they can get to the top. Prepare yourselves. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:00:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THX1138 and Brave New World are some of the blue prints they admire. The progressive utopia is a place where the collective is more is more important than the individual and the individual is a disposable commodity. Addendum: Except when it comes to them. They (the individual liberals) consider themselves to be the ruling elite. After all, they are the ones who had to make the hard decisions during the revolution. It's their due for bringing about the hope and change. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:03:39 PM EDT
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You are asking what they think, this is the wrong question. Its all about what they feel.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:04:01 PM EDT
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Again, where does the money come from? Just enough for everyone to have a big screen TV, smart phone, new car etc... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Communism Again, where does the money come from? Just enough for everyone to have a big screen TV, smart phone, new car etc... Money? |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:08:36 PM EDT
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But where does the money come from to fund that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? well... if you look at deeper conspiracy theories... new world order shit... then you get into the eugenics shit and population control.. i think they eventually want to do away with most of the population, so they rule an earth that is not overrun with people.. if they keep a sparse group of slaves to work their farms, do their bidding, then they really don't need "money"... |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:08:45 PM EDT
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Distruction of the evil empire, the USA.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:10:29 PM EDT
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well... if you look at deeper conspiracy theories... new world order shit... then you get into the eugenics shit and population control.. i think they eventually want to do away with most of the population, so they rule an earth that is not overrun with people.. if they keep a sparse group of slaves to work their farms, do their bidding, then they really don't need "money"... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? well... if you look at deeper conspiracy theories... new world order shit... then you get into the eugenics shit and population control.. i think they eventually want to do away with most of the population, so they rule an earth that is not overrun with people.. if they keep a sparse group of slaves to work their farms, do their bidding, then they really don't need "money"... That's a bit too tinfoil hat stuff for me. 
ETA: I'm not saying you're wrong...just hoping so.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:11:12 PM EDT
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don't know. This summer, had a "friend" get mad, tell me I listen to too much right wing propaganda when I told him we pay 6.7 Billion/mo in SNAP alone.. seriously pissed off, he turned away and couldn't look at me any more and gritted his jaw muscles.
Fast forward to this last week, he's going to have a party tomorrow with some of the old friends. I said fine but wouldn't go it one particular guy who can't keep himself out of jail for DUI's was going to be there. He said not to worry, he's in jail again. Then he paused for a moment and asked "how do you think he pays for things like an apartment when he gets out". I grumbled and said "you will not like where this conversation goes if we continue.. Remember that 6.7 Billion" Him, "your probably right, but he obviously needs it" 
I don't think they actually have an end goal or fully think through what they think they want, just sounds like the nice thing to do. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:11:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a bit too tinfoil hat stuff for me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: An all-encompassing paternal government that supplies most of life's needs for FREE and regulates life and action according to the liberal doctrine that wants to restrict what others do. But where does the money come from to fund that? well... if you look at deeper conspiracy theories... new world order shit... then you get into the eugenics shit and population control.. i think they eventually want to do away with most of the population, so they rule an earth that is not overrun with people.. if they keep a sparse group of slaves to work their farms, do their bidding, then they really don't need "money"... That's a bit too tinfoil hat stuff for me. Margaret Sanger. Read. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:12:39 PM EDT
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They're just like a plague of locusts: destroy everything in their path. Then what? I doubt they have any clue.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:16:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're just like a plague of locusts: destroy everything in their path. Then what? I doubt they have any clue. Will it cause any liberals or socialists to say "Whoa, even with virtually unlimited resources socialism failed. Maybe we should just stick to what has proven to work."? No, if they could learn from history and example they would not be liberals or socialists. We're coming up on 50 years of The Great Society, i.e., government programs intended to eliminate or alleviate poverty. Result after trillions of dollars spent? More Americans in poverty than ever, with fewer working. The liberals will say "We need more money!" |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:18:35 PM EDT
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There are too many different varieties of "leftists" to generalize about their ultimate goals.
Greece is a good example of this, because all these groups are out in the open and can be analyzed. In Greece, you have four "leftist" parties represented in the parliamant: PASOK, who are the establishment socialists and are allied with the conservatives in the ruling coalition, SYRIZA (the "Coalition of the Radical Left"), which is the official opposition, DIMAR (Democratic Left), which is a more moderate offshoot of SYRIZA and was formerly a member of the ruling coalition, and the KKE (Communist Party of Greece), who are rigid orthodox Stalinists unwilling to cooperate with anyone else. Then, not represented in parliamant, is ANTARSIA (Trotskyites), and various Maoists who split off from the KKE. The key thing here is that if all these groups came together, they would constitute a substantial majority of the population. But they could never agree among themselves, either about ends or means. (At the polar opposite is Golden Dawn, a frankly Neo-Nazi party that openly admires Hitler and preaches racial purity and extreme nationalism.) |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:20:44 PM EDT
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Slave labor is free This. Total control of you, or at least as much as they think they can get away with. http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/stalin/stalin.html |
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