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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:25:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Good job Nolo!

I'm not a lawyer, but it appears to be well written to my eyes....
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:25:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:25:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:26:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blackheart_Actual:
I'm only up to point 32 but it just keeps getting better and better. Gonna need a cigarette by the time I finish reading it!

Thank you Nolo!    
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If your freedom boner lasts more than four hours, reread the filing.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:26:38 PM EDT
[#5]
You know what this is? This is when the founders got together and said "I think it's time."

You are fighting the empire. May God Bless you and all associated in this fight for liberty, whether it is futile or not. Faith can move mountains. I still believe our country is a gift from God, to reflect something greater, and to shine brightly as an example for the world to see: an example of how powerful freedom is, and why God gives us freedom to choose Him or not. This country demonstrates that through freedom so many other virtues may grow and bring love and goodness to all around us.

Monarchies reflect the hierarchy of heaven, and can indeed work to an extent. But our country and it's founding ideals is I believe an even greater witness to the power of human freedom.

Soap box aside... I'll be on the edge of my seat for the next 5-8 years
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:28:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Holy shitsnacks. Wow man. Will be donating. To say "thanks" feels cheap and meaningless, but thanks.

Give them holy hell.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:28:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:28:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mp9fan:
You know what this is? This is when the founders got together and said "I think it's time."

You are fighting the empire. May God Bless you and all associated in this fight for liberty, whether it is futile or not. Faith can move mountains. I still believe our country is a gift from God, to reflect something greater, and to shine brightly as an example for the world to see: an example of how powerful freedom is, and why God gives us freedom to choose Him or not. This country demonstrates that through freedom so many other virtues may grow and bring love and goodness to all around us.

Monarchies reflect the hierarchy of heaven, and can indeed work to an extent. But our country and it's founding ideals is I believe an even greater witness to the power of human freedom.

Soap box aside... I'll be on the edge of my seat for the next 5-8 years
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Look around you, or go grab a mirror. We are legion, and we are fed up.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:29:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Awesome

I noticed this was solely for MG's, any chance on it being expanded to include supressors?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:31:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Tag
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:31:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Here to say GO NOLO!
I wonder what them fellers over at SG are saying now?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:32:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Awesome

I noticed this was solely for MG's, any chance on it being expanded to include supressors?
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I think there are other filings coming which maybe there will be reference? But either way, WHEN the SCOTUS finds GCA/NFA unconstitutional, suppressors will be released as well (I assume).
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:33:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:34:36 PM EDT
[#14]
Nice work op.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:34:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Awesome

I noticed this was solely for MG's, any chance on it being expanded to include supressors?
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Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Awesome

I noticed this was solely for MG's, any chance on it being expanded to include supressors?


Section 68(1) of the complaint makes that clear... it goes after the NFA in its entirety. The phrase "et seq" is the critical component here.


abbreviation for the Latin phrase et sequentes meaning "and the following." It is commonly used by lawyers to include numbered lists, pages or sections after the first number is stated, as in "the rules of the road are found in Vehicle Code Section 1204, et seq."
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:35:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Wv lawyer checking in.  NOLO, IM me if I can help with research or anything
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:35:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Bump
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:35:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:


A while.
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Oh, man...

How long is this particular battle going to rage?


A while.


About how long does it take for a case to get from initial filing to the USSC?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:36:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Good luck. If this goes through it could do huge things for the 2nd amendment.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:36:30 PM EDT
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We're averaging a post per minute. That's not necessary.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:36:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:


About how long does it take for a case to get from initial filing to the USSC?
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Oh, man...

How long is this particular battle going to rage?


A while.


About how long does it take for a case to get from initial filing to the USSC?


It can take years, or it can take days, weeks, or months. It all depends upon the type of case and the number of motions, etc. It's not something that has a standard timetable.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:37:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Ballsy.  Hope this results in positive change and not negative.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:37:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:


About how long does it take for a case to get from initial filing to the USSC?
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Oh, man...

How long is this particular battle going to rage?


A while.


About how long does it take for a case to get from initial filing to the USSC?


Good estimate is 3 - 8 years, assuming we don't win and BATFE decides not to appeal*.


*Contrary to what one might think, this is not a good thing.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:37:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:



If it overturns the NFA and GCA it will.
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Awesome

I noticed this was solely for MG's, any chance on it being expanded to include supressors?



If it overturns the NFA and GCA it will.


If I live to see the day the NFA and GCA burn I will cry tears of joy and simultaneously cum semen of freedom.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:38:00 PM EDT
[#25]
Tagged for interest/ moar donations
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:38:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Thank you Nolo!!!! Tagged for follow up.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:38:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Huskercoop:
Good luck. If this goes through it could do huge things for the 2nd amendment.
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If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:41:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Nolo,

On your next filings, give thought to BATFE's September 19ths, 2014 ruling with regards to "legal entities" vs. "persons" and 5330.20 requirements. They doubled down on the position that legal entities are not persons, 10 days after they stopped approving Form 1 MGs.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:42:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Thank you Nolo!

/Freedom boner salute.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:42:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigshot64:


Wv lawyer checking in.  NOLO, IM me if I can help with research or anything
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thanks for offering



 
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:42:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Undefined:


If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Huskercoop:
Good luck. If this goes through it could do huge things for the 2nd amendment.


If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.


That's the big IF, isn't it?

What happens if they simply decide to not hear the case?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:43:10 PM EDT
[#32]
In on four.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:43:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:


That's the big IF, isn't it?

What happens if they simply decide to not hear the case?
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Huskercoop:
Good luck. If this goes through it could do huge things for the 2nd amendment.


If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.


That's the big IF, isn't it?

What happens if they simply decide to not hear the case?


Then the lower court ruling stands (and is binding/precedent for that district).
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:44:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Nice!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:44:15 PM EDT
[#35]
In just to say I'm in.  History in the making?  I hope.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:44:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:


No.  They didn't respond.  No worries.  When I get these cases  filed I'll make my foia my pet project.
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By PossumKing:
Did your foi request produce anything interesting?


No.  They didn't respond.  No worries.  When I get these cases  filed I'll make my foia my pet project.


Makes perfect sense. They knew they were going to be sued anyway, so why respond?  Not that they're afraid of being sued anyway.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:45:51 PM EDT
[#37]
Poetry
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:46:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:46:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Give 'em hell Nolo!
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:46:23 PM EDT
[#40]
After reading thought the complaint I'm very VERY happy with your angle! Good work, now don't fuck it up!
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:47:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Undefined:


Then the lower court ruling stands (and is binding/precedent for that district).
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Huskercoop:
Good luck. If this goes through it could do huge things for the 2nd amendment.


If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.


That's the big IF, isn't it?

What happens if they simply decide to not hear the case?


Then the lower court ruling stands (and is binding/precedent for that district).


So... Mr. Hollis is in Texas. If the lower court rules in his favor, does that nullify the NFA in that particular district until a higher court steps in?
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:47:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Awesome!

I was unaware of the US vs Miller case.  It all really does tie together well!
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:48:08 PM EDT
[#43]
I shall name my firstborn after Nolo.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:48:36 PM EDT
[#44]
do you hear that noise? It's the sound of 200 million lube bottles uncapping,
and slathering of liquids onto flesh. Rumbles from beneath the keyboard roar across America in a single moment in unison.
but it's merely the calm before the storm of violent stroking and squeezing. Ended by a single breath of climax and wetness onto the toggles of keys.
Typo's will be made, Keyboard will stick.

Freedom has been spilled.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:48:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Went with the wife and daughters to see a stage show of Guys and Dolls, so not in until four!

Go get 'em Nolo!
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:49:21 PM EDT
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Here to say GO NOLO!I wonder what them fellers over at SG are saying now?
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Much weeping, nashing of teeth, and panties bunching up. Lots of sandy vaginas and freedom boner cock blocking. A circle jerk to say how hopeless this effort is, and not to worry, they won't lose money on their mg investments.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:49:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:


So... Mr. Hollis is in Texas. If the lower court rules in his favor, does that nullify the NFA in that particular district until a higher court steps in?
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By Undefined:

If this goes before SCOTUS it will make Heller pale in comparison. This is an attack on the keep, and win, lose, or draw, it is magnificent to behold.


That's the big IF, isn't it?

What happens if they simply decide to not hear the case?


Then the lower court ruling stands (and is binding/precedent for that district).


So... Mr. Hollis is in Texas. If the lower court rules in his favor, does that nullify the NFA in that particular district until a higher court steps in?


Let's just say if the lower court were to rule in our favor and either BATFE (more accurately, the US Attorney/Solicitor General) does not appeal it or SCOTUS declines to hear the case a lot of Arfcom members will learn to appreciate chili without beans as they migrate to the great state of Texas (or the other states that fall under the 5th District).
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:50:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:



My next SBR will have that engraved on the lower.
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My next SBR will have that engraved on the lower.


LOL. I've already got 2 of the Aero lowers with that...just waiting.  I had a Form1 disaproved on one already.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:50:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Roebuck:
do you hear that noise? It's the sound of 200 million lube bottles uncapping,
and slathering of liquids onto flesh. Rumbles from beneath the keyboard roar across America in a single moment in unison.
but it's merely the calm before the storm of violent stroking and squeezing. Ended by a single breath of climax and wetness onto the toggles of keys.
Typo's will be made, Keyboard will stick.

Freedom has been spilled.
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Oh so in.

My Freedom Boner is ready.
Link Posted: 10/30/2014 11:52:08 PM EDT
[#50]
In on 4.  Give 'em hell!
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