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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:00:10 PM EDT
[#1]
that seems about right
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:00:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:02:40 PM EDT
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Fascinating. I've tried a small amount of mushrooms when I was younger and enjoyed the experience. I'd be up to doing it again.
In before: "God damn LIBERALtarians!" 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:05:28 PM EDT
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Yah!! Disruptive!
Looks to me like it enhances activity, but what would I know? It's not like I have ever done hallucinogens! 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:08:56 PM EDT
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The article says 'shrooms can help you quit smoking.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:09:24 PM EDT
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I'm going to say charting technique fail. I'm not against use of halucinogens in infrequent, controlled settings.
But what the people who made this presentation should have done is portray a normal brain as having more of the unfilled channels -- in other words the charts should have been like negatives of what they used. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:10:06 PM EDT
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I did mushrooms a few times in high school. Didn't care for them. Couldn't sleep at all even when they were wearing off.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:11:26 PM EDT
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People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:14:50 PM EDT
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People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. I'm no doctor or medical researcher, but the article quotes experts in the field as saying that mushrooms are remarkably non-toxic to the body's organ systems. You would be correct on a number of other substances, though, with alcohol at the top of the list. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:16:29 PM EDT
[#10]
I can neither confirm nor deny that large trees occasionally have the ability to suddenly get up and run away.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:18:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Too little and nothing, too much and it's a downright horrifying experience.. . . . . just enough and WOW!
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:21:03 PM EDT
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I took a dose one time for a migraine that no medicine would phase. The headache lasted for 6 days and was gone with 2 hours after taking the shrooms.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:21:27 PM EDT
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I can neither confirm nor deny that large trees occasionally have the ability to suddenly get up and run away. Bad hug? |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:24:56 PM EDT
[#14]
hippies
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:28:52 PM EDT
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They were always my favorite. Don't know if I could stand it these days. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:30:29 PM EDT
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People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. Poison would imply toxic and harmful. When the US government did experiments with LSD, they found that there was no lethal dose. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:34:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:35:16 PM EDT
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Pro-tip:
Watch that Japanese gameshow "MXC" while on shrooms. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. you sound just like a vegan. enjoy your bean curd.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:41:08 PM EDT
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People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl89g2SwMh4 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:43:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. Rather an oversimplification of the effect of neurotransmitter agonists on synaptic pathways, don't you think? |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to say charting technique fail. I'm not against use of halucinogens in infrequent, controlled settings. But what the people who made this presentation should have done is portray a normal brain as having more of the unfilled channels -- in other words the charts should have been like negatives of what they used. amusingly, the data viz is what caused me to actually read the article in the first place.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no doctor or medical researcher, but the article quotes experts in the field as saying that mushrooms are remarkably non-toxic to the body's organ systems. You would be correct on a number of other substances, though, with alcohol at the top of the list. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. I'm no doctor or medical researcher, but the article quotes experts in the field as saying that mushrooms are remarkably non-toxic to the body's organ systems. You would be correct on a number of other substances, though, with alcohol at the top of the list. Sorry to get pedantic on you. I have a degree in psychology and have studied psychopharmacology pretty extensively. Psilocybin and psylocin indeed have very high theraputic ratios (or theraputic indices if you prefer), but they are by no means non-toxic. They are "safe" in that it is almost impossible to take a life-threatening overdose. Alcohol and heroin are among the most dangerous drugs in terms of theraputic ratio. Cannabis is about the least so. But low theraputic ratio doesn't mean that a drug is safe. Cannabis and psilocybin can be harmful when overused or used habitually. The terminology used in lay discussions gets fuzzy. If a substance is non-toxic in terms of pharmacology, that means it has no effect. In common usage toxicity is associated with lethality. This chart uses a mish-mash of terminology but it makes some interesting points. DEA schedules are not strongly associated with the inherent hazards of a drug. It's kind of shocking to me that isobutyl nitrate isn't scheduled. The stuff can be very dangerous.  |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:54:27 PM EDT
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CSB:
a guy I went to high school with freaked out on a trip about a year after graduation. I was delivering newspaper early one morning when I rounded a corner and had to stop because of about 5 police cars, two fire trucks, and at least four ambulances were there responding to the situation. The house they had come to was on my route, so I stopped the car and got out to see what's up. I walked up to a very pretty lady cop and asked her what was going on, I had newspapers to put out. She said there was a stabbing, but they had the suspect in custody and things were under control. Right as she said that (we're standing next to a squad car) the guy starts freaking out, flopping around in the back seat and kicking the window grate.......I about jumped out of my skin because I didn't know there was anybody in there! Fast forward to the next morning and I make my usual stop at the corner store on the way home and had a chat with a couple cops I usually see there at that time. Turns out what happened is - the guy went to a party at that house and ate 6 grams of mushrooms - some of you more experienced folks from the older days may not think that's much, but holy shit, I think that's a lot of damned mushrooms! So, he gets wasted and starts tripping.....the kids at the party, being asshole high schoolish kids, start fucking with him, and trying to scare him. He freaked out, grabbed a kitchen knife and started stabbing the demons - he stabbed six people, didn't kill anyone but put at least one girl in critical condition. Last I heard he was convicted and got 5 years each for 6 counts of assault with a deadly weapon. And, boom....his life was fucked. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:55:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNo watch cartoon net works adventure time.
BRB going to Canada. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:57:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Wonder what happens when you add chocolate?
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:58:11 PM EDT
[#27]
Why is a fungus illegal?
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:58:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what happens when you add chocolate? Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what happens when you add chocolate? Don't. An enzyme in dairy products can degrade psilocybin. Quoted: Why is a fungus illegal? Da derp de derp da teetly interstate commerce de derpy dumb. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
CSB: a guy I went to high school with freaked out on a trip about a year after graduation. I was delivering newspaper early one morning when I rounded a corner and had to stop because of about 5 police cars, two fire trucks, and at least four ambulances were there responding to the situation. The house they had come to was on my route, so I stopped the car and got out to see what's up. I walked up to a very pretty lady cop and asked her what was going on, I had newspapers to put out. She said there was a stabbing, but they had the suspect in custody and things were under control. Right as she said that (we're standing next to a squad car) the guy starts freaking out, flopping around in the back seat and kicking the window grate.......I about jumped out of my skin because I didn't know there was anybody in there! Fast forward to the next morning and I make my usual stop at the corner store on the way home and had a chat with a couple cops I usually see there at that time. Turns out what happened is - the guy went to a party at that house and ate 6 grams of mushrooms - some of you more experienced folks from the older days may not think that's much, but holy shit, I think that's a lot of damned mushrooms! So, he gets wasted and starts tripping.....the kids at the party, being asshole high schoolish kids, start fucking with him, and trying to scare him. He freaked out, grabbed a kitchen knife and started stabbing the demons - he stabbed six people, didn't kill anyone but put at least one girl in critical condition. Last I heard he was convicted and got 5 years each for 6 counts of assault with a deadly weapon. And, boom....his life was fucked. Using alcohol irresponsibly can also kill other people and screw up your life. Like drunk driving. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:03:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Anyone who says you don't visually hallucinate on sh rooms has never eaten enough.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:04:47 PM EDT
[#31]
There is a lot of that at the DU.
Then you need to do mushrooms to understand them. Do you known how many mushroom pizzas that I have devoured and I still don't understand them?
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:07:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Im surprised there arent more stories about shrooms in the news. They are incredibly easy to grow and the spore prints can be legally purchased online. Just sayin.....
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:10:25 PM EDT
[#33]
most liberals suffer similar effects being democrats
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:10:58 PM EDT
[#34]
off to look up isowhatever and dexwhatever.. please expound on how 1/10 relates to 2 being effective and 20 being lethal. i understand 2/20 = 1/10 but the numbers 4 and 40 also work there.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:14:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Jeez, no shit. You don't take hallucinogenics to go to sleep. 
Quote HistoryQuoted:
that seems about right |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:16:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who says you don't visually hallucinate on sh rooms has never eaten enough. Things I've seen/heard/felt/understood: Unable to stop laughing/smiling, being joyful. Clouds smiled at me. A black TransAm growled like a black leopard. Grass flowed down hill. Snow. It wasn't really snowing. Alternating color positive/negative world. With discordant diamond-shaped designs. Seeing the night sky with a big bright full moon...as if from the wrong end of binoculars. Heard backward singing (Rod Stewart) coming out of the radio. Looked into a mirror...went inside of THAT room. Finally got back out. Saw the pendulum of a clock stop in mid-sweep. Probably a lot of things I don't remember that were weird/cool. This was a very long time ago. But it was cheap entertainment and with nothing I would consider ill effects to date. It's always better if you're ready for it, and I think I'm good for now. Don't feel I need it any more. I feel that anyone who enjoys a buzz (of any sort, including alcohol) can't throw stones at the 'shroomers. It's only a matter of degree. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:18:36 PM EDT
[#37]
This thread needs a soundtrack.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:21:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:29:34 PM EDT
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I ate mushrooms a few times in Amsterdam. I remember it made me very happy/giggly, when it was raining i could see the drops falling in what was percieved slow motion, went to the Van Gogh museum and saw the paintings in a whole different light, and several other effects.
I would do it again if I didn't work in a job where it's not permitted. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:31:05 PM EDT
[#40]
It grew under a cow shit. I dont care how "good for you" it is.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:34:41 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It grew under a cow shit. I dont care how "good for you" it is. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry to get pedantic on you. I have a degree in psychology and have studied psychopharmacology pretty extensively. Psilocybin and psylocin indeed have very high theraputic ratios (or theraputic indices if you prefer), but they are by no means non-toxic. They are "safe" in that it is almost impossible to take a life-threatening overdose. Alcohol and heroin are among the most dangerous drugs in terms of theraputic ratio. Cannabis is about the least so. But low theraputic ratio doesn't mean that a drug is safe. Cannabis and psilocybin can be harmful when overused or used habitually. The terminology used in lay discussions gets fuzzy. If a substance is non-toxic in terms of pharmacology, that means it has no effect. In common usage toxicity is associated with lethality. This chart uses a mish-mash of terminology but it makes some interesting points. DEA schedules are not strongly associated with the inherent hazards of a drug. It's kind of shocking to me that isobutyl nitrate isn't scheduled. The stuff can be very dangerous. http://smartapproaches.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Therapeutic-Ratio.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: People who take psychedelics are basically poisoning themselves and enjoying the process the brain goes through to recover its chemical balances. I'm no doctor or medical researcher, but the article quotes experts in the field as saying that mushrooms are remarkably non-toxic to the body's organ systems. You would be correct on a number of other substances, though, with alcohol at the top of the list. Sorry to get pedantic on you. I have a degree in psychology and have studied psychopharmacology pretty extensively. Psilocybin and psylocin indeed have very high theraputic ratios (or theraputic indices if you prefer), but they are by no means non-toxic. They are "safe" in that it is almost impossible to take a life-threatening overdose. Alcohol and heroin are among the most dangerous drugs in terms of theraputic ratio. Cannabis is about the least so. But low theraputic ratio doesn't mean that a drug is safe. Cannabis and psilocybin can be harmful when overused or used habitually. The terminology used in lay discussions gets fuzzy. If a substance is non-toxic in terms of pharmacology, that means it has no effect. In common usage toxicity is associated with lethality. This chart uses a mish-mash of terminology but it makes some interesting points. DEA schedules are not strongly associated with the inherent hazards of a drug. It's kind of shocking to me that isobutyl nitrate isn't scheduled. The stuff can be very dangerous. http://smartapproaches.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Therapeutic-Ratio.jpg I must question the validity of a chart which lists an SSRI as being scheduled and defines "unscheduled" to mean "over the counter," which is obviously not the case. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:39:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
CSB: a guy I went to high school with freaked out on a trip about a year after graduation. I was delivering newspaper early one morning when I rounded a corner and had to stop because of about 5 police cars, two fire trucks, and at least four ambulances were there responding to the situation. The house they had come to was on my route, so I stopped the car and got out to see what's up. I walked up to a very pretty lady cop and asked her what was going on, I had newspapers to put out. She said there was a stabbing, but they had the suspect in custody and things were under control. Right as she said that (we're standing next to a squad car) the guy starts freaking out, flopping around in the back seat and kicking the window grate.......I about jumped out of my skin because I didn't know there was anybody in there! Fast forward to the next morning and I make my usual stop at the corner store on the way home and had a chat with a couple cops I usually see there at that time. Turns out what happened is - the guy went to a party at that house and ate 6 grams of mushrooms - some of you more experienced folks from the older days may not think that's much, but holy shit, I think that's a lot of damned mushrooms! So, he gets wasted and starts tripping.....the kids at the party, being asshole high schoolish kids, start fucking with him, and trying to scare him. He freaked out, grabbed a kitchen knife and started stabbing the demons - he stabbed six people, didn't kill anyone but put at least one girl in critical condition. Last I heard he was convicted and got 5 years each for 6 counts of assault with a deadly weapon. And, boom....his life was fucked. I saw a kid, that did mushrooms at a party, think that he was being attacked by spiders and stared scratching himself and ripping his skin off. He started to run and broke his arm when he fell. Saw him a week later with a cast on and had 3-4 inch gouges all over his face, head, and arms. Basically any spot that wasn't covered by clothes. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:42:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Faaarrrrr ouuuttt maaaayyannnnn
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:43:25 PM EDT
[#45]
Dude......look at all the pretty colors......
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Posted: 10/30/2014 4:10:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
CSB: a guy I went to high school with freaked out on a trip about a year after graduation. I was delivering newspaper early one morning when I rounded a corner and had to stop because of about 5 police cars, two fire trucks, and at least four ambulances were there responding to the situation. The house they had come to was on my route, so I stopped the car and got out to see what's up. I walked up to a very pretty lady cop and asked her what was going on, I had newspapers to put out. She said there was a stabbing, but they had the suspect in custody and things were under control. Right as she said that (we're standing next to a squad car) the guy starts freaking out, flopping around in the back seat and kicking the window grate.......I about jumped out of my skin because I didn't know there was anybody in there! Fast forward to the next morning and I make my usual stop at the corner store on the way home and had a chat with a couple cops I usually see there at that time. Turns out what happened is - the guy went to a party at that house and ate 6 grams of mushrooms - some of you more experienced folks from the older days may not think that's much, but holy shit, I think that's a lot of damned mushrooms! So, he gets wasted and starts tripping.....the kids at the party, being asshole high schoolish kids, start fucking with him, and trying to scare him. He freaked out, grabbed a kitchen knife and started stabbing the demons - he stabbed six people, didn't kill anyone but put at least one girl in critical condition. Last I heard he was convicted and got 5 years each for 6 counts of assault with a deadly weapon. And, boom....his life was fucked. Quality of company is very important. Even more so with drugs like that.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 4:13:32 PM EDT
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Looked into a mirror...went inside of THAT room. Finally got back out. NEVER look into a mirror. ever. srsly. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 4:27:41 PM EDT
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Anyone who says you don't visually hallucinate on sh rooms has never eaten enough. When I tried them years ago I didn't feel or see shit, I was getting pissed because a purple elephant kept following me everywhere though
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Posted: 10/30/2014 4:30:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Being jammed in an MRI while under the influence of hallucinogens sounds awful.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 4:33:04 PM EDT
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Hallucinogens are one of those things that I am terrified of and wouldn't touch when I was a kid (or now for that matter). I knew if things got freaky I wouldn't be able to handle it at all.
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