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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:26:19 PM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings.
I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:27:28 PM EDT
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DAMN, get him on Youtube, talking about importing Guiness w/ his thick brogue. Any war stories he wants to tell will be icing on the cake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. Neutral in name only. Wife's grandpa was in Irish Army and was part of D-Day. A 3x POW also in the war. He was also the reason Guinness is in the US. Dude had zero problem telling anyone to fuck off in his thick Irish accent and had some crazy stories. DAMN, get him on Youtube, talking about importing Guiness w/ his thick brogue. Any war stories he wants to tell will be icing on the cake. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:34:57 PM EDT
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That is one of the most shite songs ever, why do some of you get your jollies off posting it? I kinda like it... |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:41:22 PM EDT
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Was in Ireland this past July and August. My Wife's mom is from Cork and has an Aunt in New Castle in Northern Ireland and a nephew in Belfast. They were all up in Belfast the day before we got there and apparently someone had called the local police (don't know what was going on) and my Wife's Aunt and her son drove by and looked over at someone trying to hide in the bushes with what looked like an AK pointed at the police. No shots fired but my wife's cousin managed to get a crappy cell phone pic but left pretty quick.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:46:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apples and coconuts We didn't occupy Saudi Arabia and try to wipe out their culture or primary religion . Keep your perspective and be objective. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! How many Irish were killed by the Crown the previous 700 yrs? Oliver Cromwell was real fucking peach. Washingtonpost.com The first British involvement in Ireland began in 1169, when Anglo-Norman troops arrived at Bannow Bay in County Wexford. During the next half millenium, successive English rulers attempted to colonize the island, pitching battles to increase their holdings – moves that sparked periodic rebellions by the Irish. As the English gradually expanded their reach over the island by the 16th century, religious persecution of Catholic Irish grew – in particular after the accession of Elizabeth I, a Protestant, to the throne in 1558. Oliver Cromwell's subsequent siege of Ireland in 1649 ended with massacres of Catholics at Drogheda and Wexford and forced the resettlement of thousands, many of whom lost their homes in the struggle. By 1691, with the victory of Protestant English King William III over the Catholic forces of James II, Protestant supremacy in Ireland had become complete. Catholics in Ireland suffered greatly in the subsequent period of British occupation, enduring laws that prevented them from bearing arms, holding public office and restricting their rights to an education. While many of those rights were eventually restored, the animosity between Catholics and Protestants remained. With the passing of the Act of Union in 1800, a law that joined England and Ireland as one, the island became officially governed by London. So 9/11 was justified by the Crusades then? Fuck all terrorists. Apples and coconuts We didn't occupy Saudi Arabia and try to wipe out their culture or primary religion . Keep your perspective and be objective. Wasn't Osama's argument that the U.S. established a base in the birthplace of Mohammed and corrupted the Saudi government? Wasn't Osama just defending his culture, his religion, his homeland and his countrymen from occupation and corruption by the American infidel devils? Fuck ALL terrorists.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:46:58 PM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings. I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. Read up on The Irish Famine . A million died and a million were forced to emigrate. There was plenty of food--it's just that the Irish couldn't afford it. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:50:19 PM EDT
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Wasn't Osama's argument that the U.S. established a base in the birthplace of Mohammed and corrupted the Saudi government? Wasn't Osama just defending his culture, his religion, his homeland and his countrymen from occupation and corruption by the American infidel devils? Fuck ALL terrorists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! How many Irish were killed by the Crown the previous 700 yrs? Oliver Cromwell was real fucking peach. Washingtonpost.com The first British involvement in Ireland began in 1169, when Anglo-Norman troops arrived at Bannow Bay in County Wexford. During the next half millenium, successive English rulers attempted to colonize the island, pitching battles to increase their holdings – moves that sparked periodic rebellions by the Irish. As the English gradually expanded their reach over the island by the 16th century, religious persecution of Catholic Irish grew – in particular after the accession of Elizabeth I, a Protestant, to the throne in 1558. Oliver Cromwell's subsequent siege of Ireland in 1649 ended with massacres of Catholics at Drogheda and Wexford and forced the resettlement of thousands, many of whom lost their homes in the struggle. By 1691, with the victory of Protestant English King William III over the Catholic forces of James II, Protestant supremacy in Ireland had become complete. Catholics in Ireland suffered greatly in the subsequent period of British occupation, enduring laws that prevented them from bearing arms, holding public office and restricting their rights to an education. While many of those rights were eventually restored, the animosity between Catholics and Protestants remained. With the passing of the Act of Union in 1800, a law that joined England and Ireland as one, the island became officially governed by London. So 9/11 was justified by the Crusades then? Fuck all terrorists. Apples and coconuts We didn't occupy Saudi Arabia and try to wipe out their culture or primary religion . Keep your perspective and be objective. Wasn't Osama's argument that the U.S. established a base in the birthplace of Mohammed and corrupted the Saudi government? Wasn't Osama just defending his culture, his religion, his homeland and his countrymen from occupation and corruption by the American infidel devils? Fuck ALL terrorists. Not here to debate the issue. I'm just providing providing historical reference and reasoning based on cause and effect. Research the tactics of the Crown. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:50:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:53:05 PM EDT
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My mothers side is all British, she moved here 28 years ago. Her family talks about the Irish the same way certain white folks talk about blacks in this country, and they aren't the only ones. It's disgusting. It's easy to see why the IRA did some of the things they did, even if it didn't make it right.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:53:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:18:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:51:00 PM EDT
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It's usually posted up by people with nothing to contribute, except to say "My Great great grandfather on my mothers fathers side was 27/64ths Scotch-Irish so I fully understand all about 'The old country' especially on St Pattys day, and Fuck the English" etc "But I'm proud of muh ancestors, despite not knowing anything about them." Watch your anus friend, calling out plastic paddys is a quick way to upset arfcom. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:55:54 PM EDT
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If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain.
Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:16:55 PM EDT
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Not the United States Government, but US citizens. Here's a cool article on Irish Thompsons http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/19/irish-swords-thompson-smg-ireland/ It's by Jonathan Ferguson, the Curator of Firearms at the Royal Armouries Museum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did the IRA get their M16's? Us. And the AR-180s, M1 carbines and garands, etc. AK's and Russian shit came mostly from Libya. The Soviets didn't trust the IRA much because many of them were also Catholic and were Nationalists instead of believing in "international socialism" and Athiesm. That goes all the way back to the War of Independence. ETA: IIRC one Soviet guy told them something about, "We'll believe you're serious when you start hanging Bishops" or something like that. I had no idea the British Army was using M16s as well outside of the SAS. We supplied the IRA with weapons to fight against the Brits with? Not the United States Government, but US citizens. Here's a cool article on Irish Thompsons http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/19/irish-swords-thompson-smg-ireland/ It's by Jonathan Ferguson, the Curator of Firearms at the Royal Armouries Museum. #bringbackourthompsons 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:38:24 PM EDT
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If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Yeah? So how's the weather in Cuba? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:42:44 PM EDT
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. Vito, while knowing a whole lot, was a giant douche. Nope Wasn't he the one who did some consulting work for the Islamic Republic of Iran? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:48:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah? So how's the weather in Cuba? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Yeah? So how's the weather in Cuba? Hot and with a scattered shower of Communism.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:49:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:49:52 PM EDT
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I wound up at a Sinn Féin support dinner in New York, better known as the political party associated with the IRA. The, for all intents and purposes, president Gerry Adams was there to speak. Our family business's main client was very Irish and a significant benefactor to the organization.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:58:30 PM EDT
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I'd have to imagine it must have sucked being a British soldier serving in Northern Ireland. Yeah cuz it was good times for the civilians. I did plenty of tours  It was awesome racing around in helicopters messing with the bad guys ( they ain't so brave when you look them in they eyes!).
IED's sucked but we had good gear, ( the development of which paid off in Afghanistan and Iraq) The people were great and very kind (not in county Armagh though they can go eat a bag of dicks), and totally sick of the terrorists who by the 80's were just about organized crime and spending money donated by the muppets in Boston. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:59:14 PM EDT
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If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Yeah? So how's the weather in Cuba? Hot and with a scattered shower of Communism. That is a bummer. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:12:25 AM EDT
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Can't imbed
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:15:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:21:02 AM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:25:32 AM EDT
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That explains it. So why are they targeting civilians in England? Wouldn't they want to target British military in Ireland? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is the provisional IRA considered a terrorist group if they have the same original goal? Wouldn't we be doing the same thing if we were still under British rule (or like to think we would be, anyway)? I don't know much about them is why I ask. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! That explains it. So why are they targeting civilians in England? Wouldn't they want to target British military in Ireland? You do understand how terrorism works, right? Look at the AQ shitbirds that targeted Spaniards in Spain, and the results after their successful attacks. Sometimes it works. Quoted:
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:28:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My mothers side is all British, she moved here 28 years ago. Her family talks about the Irish the same way certain white folks talk about blacks in this country, and they aren't the only ones. It's disgusting. It's easy to see why the IRA did some of the things they did, even if it didn't make it right. As far as the IRA and the Royal Ulster Brigade(Loyalists) both were terrorists in my eyes.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:29:09 AM EDT
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Great post!
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:34:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:36:33 AM EDT
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. Vito, while knowing a whole lot, was a giant douche. Nope I liked vito |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:41:14 AM EDT
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Another solid post by the OP.
Thank You.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:04:11 AM EDT
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where is Longshanks when you need him
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:16:09 AM EDT
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If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Uh-huh. So basically everyone is allowed their ethnic heritage... Except the Irish, because fuck them, right? There are German people in central Texas that still speak fucking German, after three or four generations. I'm not going to tell them they aren't ethnically German. And those Italian families in New York... Guess they should just stop running their family Italian restaurants, huh? And I guess ethnic slurs are against the CoC, unless it's the Irish, because fuck them. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:18:03 AM EDT
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I was there last June. I buried my head in the sand regarding this shit. I was there to see Ireland, not the troubles.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:21:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh-huh. So basically everyone is allowed their ethnic heritage... Except the Irish, because fuck them, right? There are German people in central Texas that still speak fucking German, after three or four generations. I'm not going to tell them they aren't ethnically German. And those Italian families in New York... Guess they should just stop running their family Italian restaurants, huh? And I guess ethnic slurs are against the CoC, unless it's the Irish, because fuck them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Uh-huh. So basically everyone is allowed their ethnic heritage... Except the Irish, because fuck them, right? There are German people in central Texas that still speak fucking German, after three or four generations. I'm not going to tell them they aren't ethnically German. And those Italian families in New York... Guess they should just stop running their family Italian restaurants, huh? And I guess ethnic slurs are against the CoC, unless it's the Irish, because fuck them. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:23:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was there last June. I buried my head in the sand regarding this shit. I was there to see Ireland, not the troubles. Another incident in the same trip someone parked a car in a spot that was designated no parking. Near downtown and sure enough Anti terror unit got called up.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:51:22 AM EDT
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Very interesting pics and subject thanks for posting OP.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:10:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:13:16 AM EDT
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High upon the gallows tree swung the noble-hearted three. By the vengeful tyrant stricken in their bloom; But they met him face to face, with the courage of their race, And they went with souls undaunted to their doom. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall!1 Girt around with cruel foes, still their courage proudly rose, For they thought of hearts that loved them far and near; Of the millions true and brave o'er the ocean's swelling wave, And the friends in holy Ireland ever dear. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! Climbed they up the rugged stair, rang their voices out in prayer, Then with England's fatal cord around them cast, Close beside the gallows tree kissed like brothers lovingly, True to home and faith and freedom to the last. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! Never till the latest day shall the memory pass away, Of the gallant lives thus given for our land; But on the cause must go, amidst joy and weal and woe, Till we make our Isle a nation free and grand. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! I've always liked that song, and wish I could write something so great for Texas
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:23:18 AM EDT
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The way I see it, the oirish are no better than ISIS.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:26:55 AM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings. I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. How about the American-british bombings in WWII. 100% civilian targeted bombings. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:34:09 AM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings. I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. How about the American-british bombings in WWII. 100% civilian targeted bombings. Actually many were on military targets. However, certain operations, like the firebombing of Dresden, turn my stomach. And Churchill was crazy about wanting to use biologicals on the Germans. At one time I greatly respected that man. As I learn the overlooked details, I realize he was a monster if no one held his leash. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:38:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:41:11 AM EDT
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And Churchill was crazy about wanting to use biologicals on the Germans. At one time I greatly respected that man. As I learn the overlooked details, I realize he was a monster if no one held his leash. Churchill wanted to make sure there was no third war with Germany. Not an unreasonable desire. The Germans got off cheap. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:42:45 AM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings. I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. How about the American-british bombings in WWII. 100% civilian targeted bombings. Actually many were on military targets. However, certain operations, like the firebombing of Dresden, turn my stomach. And Churchill was crazy about wanting to use biologicals on the Germans. At one time I greatly respected that man. As I learn the overlooked details, I realize he was a monster if no one held his leash. MacArthur at least wanted to use them on legitimate military targets. Churchill wanted to use biologicals on German cities, and make them uninhabitable for a thousand years. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:44:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:47:39 AM EDT
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So showering anthrax on Dresden just to murder the women and children would be justifiable in your opinion? Not in mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:55:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2014 2:56:44 AM EDT
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For those interested in British Army weaponry here's a pic of my brother over there -
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:02:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your Great ×5 Grandfather was Irish.... you aren't. I'm Cuban because both of my parents are. My parents and grandparents are cuban... everythinf before them are from Spain. Under the Plastic Paddy logic, I shoukd be Spanish since my Great ×5 Grandfather is from Northern Spain. Actually you are Hispanic by definition, and identify your culture Cuban. Under "Plastic Paddy" logic, you would understand the concept of ethnicity. But, you know, keep spouting off.  |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 3:02:41 AM EDT
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While part of it, I'd say there was more bad blood over the Irish War of Independence, a more recent open-wound at least. A lot of the "auxiliaries" during that war 1919-1920 weren't given a lot of oversight, good many reprisal killings by "official" forces against civilians along with town-burnings and sackings. I'll never support the IRA, anyone who attacks civilians earns a blackmark. However just like the Rhodesian conflict, a lot of stuff that simply isn't reported, covered or documented that "somewhat" changes ones perspective. How about the American-british bombings in WWII. 100% civilian targeted bombings. Actually many were on military targets. However, certain operations, like the firebombing of Dresden, turn my stomach. And Churchill was crazy about wanting to use biologicals on the Germans. At one time I greatly respected that man. As I learn the overlooked details, I realize he was a monster if no one held his leash. Dresden was unhit to that point, and was a huge rail marshaling yard, which was a legitimate target. Especially after Germany started shooting V-weapons indiscriminately towards English cities, the gloves were off. Keep in mind, too, that the Luftwaffe started the terror-bombing thing when they tried to wipe Coventry off the map. |
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