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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:40:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:48:17 PM EDT
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:50:40 PM EDT
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:54:34 PM EDT
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I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank.
I actually felt more nervous in Derry. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:01:08 PM EDT
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I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank. I actually felt more nervous in Derry. My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:01:27 PM EDT
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Neat pics!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:03:16 PM EDT
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Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. If you hate the Israeli nuthuggers, you have common ground with the IRA. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:07:22 PM EDT
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Pretty damn cool pics. I went to Ireland in April 2013 as a spring break study abroad trip for law school. Toured Belfast on both sides of the "peace wall" and were guided on one side by a former member of the IRA and the other buy a former member of the UDF. The whole conflict is fascinating.
They still have minor attacks actually. Three weeks before I was there, someone shot a mortar from one side to the other, but it hit the wall instead. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:12:47 PM EDT
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If you hate the Israeli nuthuggers, you have common ground with the IRA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. If you hate the Israeli nuthuggers, you have common ground with the IRA. Vito knew a bunch about the Troubles, and the more Jewish than Matzah non-Jew members of the site baited him.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:13:07 PM EDT
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Where did the IRA get their M16's?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:18:30 PM EDT
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Where did the IRA get their M16's? Us. And the AR-180s, M1 carbines and garands, etc. AK's and Russian shit came mostly from Libya. The Soviets didn't trust the IRA much because many of them were also Catholic and were Nationalists instead of believing in "international socialism" and Athiesm. That goes all the way back to the War of Independence. ETA: IIRC one Soviet guy told them something about, "We'll believe you're serious when you start hanging Bishops" or something like that. I had no idea the British Army was using M16s as well outside of the SAS. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:20:22 PM EDT
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Irish Fo Dog!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:22:28 PM EDT
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Why is the provisional IRA considered a terrorist group if they have the same original goal? Wouldn't we be doing the same thing if we were still under British rule (or like to think we would be, anyway)?
I don't know much about them is why I ask. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:22:59 PM EDT
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I remember seeing a picture of a warehouse that was full of M16 pattern rifles seized from the IRA, including chinese manufactured and Canadian C7 and C8 rifles...
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:27:55 PM EDT
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No AR-18's?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:28:09 PM EDT
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Why is the provisional IRA considered a terrorist group if they have the same original goal? Wouldn't we be doing the same thing if we were still under British rule (or like to think we would be, anyway)? I don't know much about them is why I ask. Birmingham pub bombings |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:34:02 PM EDT
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Didn't Ted Kennedy lend support to the IRA in some capacity?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:45:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:46:13 PM EDT
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Effective use of cover. He won't have to worry about taking an arrow to the knee. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:46:18 PM EDT
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Didn't Ted Kennedy lend support to the IRA in some capacity? His dad imported fine Irish commodities during prohibition. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 3:47:57 PM EDT
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Vito was an Iranian apologist after he had his government ordered timeout from posting. He got Arocked. He was accused of being an Iranian spy. Like an Iranian spy working for HMG would be posting pro-Iranian propaganda on a webboard. If posting pro-Iranian propaganda was a bannable offense, someone call MK262 and tell him to stop blowing Suleimani. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:02:09 PM EDT
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My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank. I actually felt more nervous in Derry. My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. No. This was back in 2009 or 2010. It was immediately after those two British soldiers were ambushed and killed while waiting for pizzas in what was the first such attack in Ireland in over a decade. Tensions were high. Thank goodness the blood didn't start flowing again... |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:03:16 PM EDT
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My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank. I actually felt more nervous in Derry. My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. I was there a few months ago, all peaceful now. Although the "You Are Entering Free Derry" signs were still up. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank. I actually felt more nervous in Derry. My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. Not likely. I was there about this time last year, and the most exciting aspect was about talking greyhounds* with one of the locals living right there on Rossville St. *he had 4 brood moms in his frontyard, and 7 three week old pups sleeping in a shed, in his backyard  ... and we stayed in a hostel less than a mile away, NW of there, towards the Univ of Ulster. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:26:09 PM EDT
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Us. And the AR-180s, M1 carbines and garands, etc. AK's and Russian shit came mostly from Libya. The Soviets didn't trust the IRA much because many of them were also Catholic and were Nationalists instead of believing in "international socialism" and Athiesm. That goes all the way back to the War of Independence. ETA: IIRC one Soviet guy told them something about, "We'll believe you're serious when you start hanging Bishops" or something like that. I had no idea the British Army was using M16s as well outside of the SAS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did the IRA get their M16's? Us. And the AR-180s, M1 carbines and garands, etc. AK's and Russian shit came mostly from Libya. The Soviets didn't trust the IRA much because many of them were also Catholic and were Nationalists instead of believing in "international socialism" and Athiesm. That goes all the way back to the War of Independence. ETA: IIRC one Soviet guy told them something about, "We'll believe you're serious when you start hanging Bishops" or something like that. I had no idea the British Army was using M16s as well outside of the SAS. We supplied the IRA with weapons to fight against the Brits with? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:28:20 PM EDT
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Not independence for Ireland, Northern Ireland, they are not one in the same. NI consists of several counties that are not part of Ireland proper. Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:32:51 PM EDT
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We supplied the IRA with weapons to fight against the Brits with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did the IRA get their M16's? Us. And the AR-180s, M1 carbines and garands, etc. AK's and Russian shit came mostly from Libya. The Soviets didn't trust the IRA much because many of them were also Catholic and were Nationalists instead of believing in "international socialism" and Athiesm. That goes all the way back to the War of Independence. ETA: IIRC one Soviet guy told them something about, "We'll believe you're serious when you start hanging Bishops" or something like that. I had no idea the British Army was using M16s as well outside of the SAS. We supplied the IRA with weapons to fight against the Brits with? Not the United States Government, but US citizens. Here's a cool article on Irish Thompsons http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/19/irish-swords-thompson-smg-ireland/ It's by Jonathan Ferguson, the Curator of Firearms at the Royal Armouries Museum. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:34:28 PM EDT
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Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. Neutral in name only. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:35:39 PM EDT
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Neutral in name only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. Neutral in name only. Both Germans and Brits that strayed into Ireland were sent to Irish POW camps. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:39:09 PM EDT
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I have meant to learn more about this conflict but have never done so. Anyone got any titles of good reading materiel about this? Im sure the web is loaded.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 4:55:34 PM EDT
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Both Germans and Brits that strayed into Ireland were sent to Irish POW camps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. Neutral in name only. Both Germans and Brits that strayed into Ireland were sent to Irish POW camps. The Brits and Americans that ended up there had an extremely high rate of "escape", if you could even call it that. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:00:55 PM EDT
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High upon the gallows tree swung the noble-hearted three. By the vengeful tyrant stricken in their bloom; But they met him face to face, with the courage of their race, And they went with souls undaunted to their doom. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall!1 Girt around with cruel foes, still their courage proudly rose, For they thought of hearts that loved them far and near; Of the millions true and brave o'er the ocean's swelling wave, And the friends in holy Ireland ever dear. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! Climbed they up the rugged stair, rang their voices out in prayer, Then with England's fatal cord around them cast, Close beside the gallows tree kissed like brothers lovingly, True to home and faith and freedom to the last. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! Never till the latest day shall the memory pass away, Of the gallant lives thus given for our land; But on the cause must go, amidst joy and weal and woe, Till we make our Isle a nation free and grand. "God save Ireland!" said the heroes; "God save Ireland" said they all. Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die, Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:04:24 PM EDT
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never seen the sling wrapped around the wrist before? whats the idea behind this? other then not loosing the gun |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:04:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Brits and Americans that ended up there had an extremely high rate of "escape", if you could even call it that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Also, most do not know that Ireland was neutral in WWII. Neutral in name only. Both Germans and Brits that strayed into Ireland were sent to Irish POW camps. The Brits and Americans that ended up there had an extremely high rate of "escape", if you could even call it that. If they really, really, wanted to leave, that is... "...The interned servicemen were sent to the Curragh and it turned out to be a very cushy deal indeed. Some 40 British, Canadian, New Zealand, French and Polish airmen received full service pay, dined well in a country where meat and dairy products were unrestricted, had full access to duty-free alcohol, had their laundry done for them, were provided with a radio and newspapers from home and could borrow bicycles to leave the camp. Some of them even brought their families to live nearby. Meanwhile more than 200 men from the German Navy and the Luftwaffe were treated almost as well. They spent their time planting gardens, making tennis courts, organising exercise classes and occasionally singing Nazi songs to taunt the Allies. All the internees were allowed to attend dances on Saturday nights, signed themselves out for weekend rounds of golf, fishing expeditions and played each other at boxing, table tennis and football. In one match that might be better forgotten the Germans beat the British 8-3. On the Allies’ side of the camp, a Spitfire pilot called Aubrey Covington organised a bar where drinks cost 10 US cents a shot and internees poured their own drinks. They wrote down what they owed in an honesty book. Some of the men felt guilty about the comfort of their situation while the war raged elsewhere. Pilot Officer Wolfe yearned to join the action and broke his parole, escaping into Northern Ireland. To his astonishment he was sent back to the camp by the British authorities – the principle of neutrality was too important to risk. Another time he was caught by the Irish and sent back. Aside from men such as Wolfe, the only truly disenchanted members of the camp were a much larger group of up to 2,000 Irish internees. "The government rounded up anyone they thought might endanger neutrality – people suspected of IRA sympathies or of being Right wing Quisling types,” says Professor Wills. "They were uprooted from their families and jobs and were often very angry at the loss of their liberty. But from the point of view of the Allied and German men interned there it was jolly nice for them to have been sent to the Curragh.” While the detention of Irish internees has remained central to the story of that country’s neutrality, the PoW element of the Curragh camp became largely forgotten – helped by De Valera’s strict wartime censorship of the media. Knowledge of it was only revived when an English novelist called John Clive stumbled across the facts in the early Eighties..." -- http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/255828/The-Cushiest-PoW-camp |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is the provisional IRA considered a terrorist group if they have the same original goal? Wouldn't we be doing the same thing if we were still under British rule (or like to think we would be, anyway)? I don't know much about them is why I ask. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:11:18 PM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is the provisional IRA considered a terrorist group if they have the same original goal? Wouldn't we be doing the same thing if we were still under British rule (or like to think we would be, anyway)? I don't know much about them is why I ask. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain The IRA killed a bunch of British civilians in England. Fuck them. Fuck all terrorists! That explains it. So why are they targeting civilians in England? Wouldn't they want to target British military in Ireland? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:12:48 PM EDT
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Vito knew a bunch about the Troubles, and the more Jewish than Matzah non-Jew members of the site baited him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great pics, thanks for posting. I know little about the conflict, other than it was I assume a fight for independence for Ireland? Here is where the Israel nuthuggers running off Vito was a tragedy. Ultimately, it was a economic fight wrapped up in a political one. If you hate the Israeli nuthuggers, you have common ground with the IRA. Vito knew a bunch about the Troubles, and the more Jewish than Matzah non-Jew members of the site baited him. Vito wasn't from Belfast......unlike myself |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:13:47 PM EDT
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I hadn't seen this one before (Propaganda or did the girls fight too?).
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:20:46 PM EDT
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I was actually at the Imperial War Museum today and snapped these
Humber Pig 
M16 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:25:06 PM EDT
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I was actually at the Imperial War Museum today and snapped these Humber Pig <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg</a> M16 <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg</a> I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:28:27 PM EDT
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uEQBcrf8Mnk/TzhFSLB0OuI/AAAAAAAAA6Y/Z-G5qrpxJhA/s800/Capture6.JPG never seen the sling wrapped around the wrist before? whats the idea behind this? other then not loosing the gun It's a British Army thing. Fairly common with them for a time. In the event the soldier went down it would be hard for the bad guy to grab his rifle. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:30:18 PM EDT
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I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was actually at the Imperial War Museum today and snapped these Humber Pig <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg</a> M16 <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg</a> I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. Definitely not an M16. It's some other AR. SP1 quite possibly, an early one from the looks of it. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:32:45 PM EDT
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Definitely not an M16. It's some other AR. SP1 quite possibly, an early one from the looks of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was actually at the Imperial War Museum today and snapped these Humber Pig <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg</a> M16 <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg</a> I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. Definitely not an M16. It's some other AR. SP1 quite possibly, an early one from the looks of it. As already noted, a lot of American guns and money made its way over to the different IRA groups. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:33:46 PM EDT
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I have meant to learn more about this conflict but have never done so. Anyone got any titles of good reading materiel about this? Im sure the web is loaded. There's been quite a bit written over the years but much of it has a slant, one way or the other. The Brits and the Irish have been at each other's throats for about as long as they have been aware of each other's existence. The fight has been going on for literally hundreds of years, with varying degrees of intensity. I'm not convinced its over yet. British/Irish history can be immensely complex. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:44:07 PM EDT
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It's a Colt SP-1. Giveaway is the lower receiver without auto sear, and the dual screw pivot pin.
Americans of Irish decent and Irish organized crime figures smuggled boat loads of weapons to the IRA, on the same shipping/smuggling routes that pre-date the United States. Think about the days of Cuban rum and Irish Whiskey, the rise of Irish gangs in the US after the Irish Great Famine, and the prominence many Irish achieved in the US after rising against discrimination and persecution in the 1800's, only to become the Mayors, police chiefs, constables, men of finance, and men of crime syndicates concentrated in the Eastern Sea Board and Great Lakes regions (Chicago). |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:52:12 PM EDT
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I'd have to imagine it must have sucked being a British soldier serving in Northern Ireland.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:54:01 PM EDT
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Surprise!!!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:54:48 PM EDT
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Armalite rifle
I used to think I was pretty cool in the late 70's early 80's listening to music about conflicts I knew nothing about. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:56:47 PM EDT
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I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was actually at the Imperial War Museum today and snapped these Humber Pig <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/BB1E66F3-7C99-43C8-A19A-0F993CB343AC_zps6d4u7i6x.jpg</a> M16 <a href="http://s818.photobucket.com/user/Mbradders/media/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/Mbradders/E7E18376-2448-4F57-A340-A9343E658779_zpsqgpdgz7l.jpg</a> I remember when they were selling Humber Pigs in The Shotgun News for about $13,000. Oh, take a closer look at the rifle. It looks to be an SP1 semi. It could have a drop in auto sear or lightening link though. I have got to get to the Imperial War Museum one of these days. It's damn cool. It was partly under renovation when I went last year though. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 5:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have visited Derry in Northern Ireland and Bethlehem on the West Bank. I actually felt more nervous in Derry. My dads side is from Derry. Was that recently? I have always wanted to go. I highly doubt it. I was in Derry last year and never had a worry. |
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