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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:36:49 AM EDT
By not falling in line and supporting the Libertarians.
I know. You're going to say that's not so, but it really is. Look at the facts: The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. They agreed to fund Obamacare, Ban Machineguns, Raise the debt ceiling, Debase the currency, Bail out the banking industry, keep us involved in wars overseas with no economic or political gain possible from them, maintain the drug war, and generally run the country however their donors (which often donate to both parties) bribe them to run it. In agreeing on so many things, they're essentially working together and pretending to hate each other so folks think there's still a meaningful choice. They even simplified it down to just colors Red and Blue. In a lot of ways, the color is the biggest difference between them. So if you're thinking of wasting your vote on a Republican, keep in mind that you're actually helping the Democrats beat the LP. We all know the GOP won't be able to keep from taking it in the ass by giving the Dems the ammo to bukake them into oblivion again, so why waste the vote? Vote for a party that actually DOESN'T want to run your life or take half your cash. All you have to do is be willing to pass that level of freedom onto your neighbors even if you dislike what they'll do with it. Think about that for a second. How important is it to keep those damn queers from getting married in your state? Is it worth the taxes you'll pay under the Demicans? 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:38:17 AM EDT
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"Sigh"
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:40:03 AM EDT
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The "independent republican" candidate for SC Govenor, Tom Ervin, just dropped from the race and threw his support behind the Dem. Go figure.....
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:42:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:44:41 AM EDT
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Your logic falls right in line with GD
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By not falling in line and supporting the Libertarians. I know. You're going to say that's not so, but it really is. Look at the facts: The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. They agreed to fund Obamacare, Ban Machineguns, Raise the debt ceiling, Debase the currency, Bail out the banking industry, keep us involved in wars overseas with no economic or political gain possible from them, maintain the drug war, and generally run the country however their donors (which often donate to both parties) bribe them to run it. In agreeing on so many things, they're essentially working together and pretending to hate each other so folks think there's still a meaningful choice. They even simplified it down to just colors Red and Blue. In a lot of ways, the color is the biggest difference between them. So if you're thinking of wasting your vote on a Republican, keep in mind that you're actually helping the Democrats beat the LP. We all know the GOP won't be able to keep from taking it in the ass by giving the Dems the ammo to bukake them into oblivion again, so why waste the vote? Vote for a party that actually DOESN'T want to run your life or take half your cash. All you have to do is be willing to pass that level of freedom onto your neighbors even if you dislike what they'll do with it. Think about that for a second. How important is it to keep those damn queers from getting married in your state? Is it worth the taxes you'll pay under the Demicans?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:44:46 AM EDT
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I don't think the Repubs should necessarily support the Libertarians but they shouldn't act like Dem-Lite either.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:46:33 AM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:47:28 AM EDT
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... The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform... Nope. The actual practices and actions of many (most?) of the elected GOP officials probably do fit that mold, sadly, but not the actual platforms. The GOP and Dem platforms couldn't be more different. IMHO the problem with the GOP is not the platform, it is the failure of many of their candidates to remember and adhere to it once elected. I sincerely wish I had a solution for that... but I do know that voting "L" is not the answer. (And yes, I saw the other thread you are spoofing here. I just thought I'd offer an honest reply to your OP before the usual poo-throwing commences.  )
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:59:18 AM EDT
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I can't argue with OP. It's the damn truth. But, I voted R all the way down yesterday. Why? I have no choice. If the democrats keep winning there won't ever be a place for a libertarian party. We have to change the Republican Party from within. How? Fuck if I know because all they care about are lobbyists.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:08:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like that cartoon.  Shows em for what they are.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:10:01 AM EDT
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Nope. The actual practices and actions of many (most?) of the elected GOP officials probably do fit that mold, sadly, but not the actual platforms. The GOP and Dem platforms couldn't be more different. IMHO the problem with the GOP is not the platform, it is the failure of many of their candidates to remember and adhere to it once elected. I sincerely wish I had a solution for that... but I do know that voting "L" is not the answer. (And yes, I saw the other thread you are spoofing here. I just thought I'd offer an honest reply to your OP before the usual poo-throwing commences. )
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... The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform... Nope. The actual practices and actions of many (most?) of the elected GOP officials probably do fit that mold, sadly, but not the actual platforms. The GOP and Dem platforms couldn't be more different. IMHO the problem with the GOP is not the platform, it is the failure of many of their candidates to remember and adhere to it once elected. I sincerely wish I had a solution for that... but I do know that voting "L" is not the answer. (And yes, I saw the other thread you are spoofing here. I just thought I'd offer an honest reply to your OP before the usual poo-throwing commences. )
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:13:45 AM EDT
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I can't argue with OP. It's the damn truth. But, I voted R all the way down yesterday. Why? I have no choice. If the democrats keep winning there won't ever be a place for a libertarian party. We have to change the Republican Party from within. How? Fuck if I know because all they care about are lobbyists. I don't think that's so. Whichever party wins, folks are getting tired of being ruled and robbed by Big Brother Inc. That frustration and desire to see it change has been growing a lot under Zero and his GOP yes men on the hill. The more they swing at each other like two retards in a slap fight, the more the rest of America sees them for what they are, and the more people start to lean libertarian. Eventually, one or both of the big parties will start moving that direction to capture market share (win for libertarians) or they'll fall on their swords and the LP (or another similar party) will pick up those voters. Either way, voting for what you want is probably still the best idea. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:21:28 AM EDT
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I can't argue with OP. It's the damn truth. But, I voted R all the way down yesterday. Why? I have no choice. If the democrats keep winning there won't ever be a place for a libertarian party. We have to change the Republican Party from within. How? Fuck if I know because all they care about are lobbyists. Good reasoning The repubs need to stay in office longer than 4-8 years to implement plans and form a new base. The voter need to support repubs longer than 4-8 years. At this time we swing from R to D and back again. We are going back to R, let's keep it that way for 20 years. Then we can pass National CCW |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:26:27 AM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:35:14 AM EDT
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If that's true, what's more important to you? What they say, or what they do? What they do, of course. (Same as with the Dems, Libs, or anyone else.) But I know what the Dems will do on the national stage, and that is worse than what even the worst RINOs will do in most cases... and at least there is a hope that we can push the GOPers to do the right things (or better things) over time, with no such hope for the Dems. I also know what the Big-L Libertarians will do on the national stage. Lose elections. And sometimes (certainly not always, I'm not one of "those") help the Dems to win. FTR, I think the libertarian-leaning wing of the GOP and Libertarian RINOs (like Ron Paul) have hurt the GOP far more from within than the official Libertarian Party and its candidates have from without... but, sadly, not nearly as much as our own unfaithful RINOs who have behaved like Dem-Lite and cast that shadow over the entire party. I am a lifelong Republican, involved at the local and state level and vocal about national issues, who has lost faith in my party as a whole. Absent major change/improvement, we will fade away or become something unrecognizable. The platform still represents me/my interests/my priorities far more than any other party or group but, regretfully, I can no longer say that of the vast majority of those elected under that banner. 
I feel like the proverbial man without a country. The Libertarian Party is not the refuge that I seek, personally, but I certainly understand why so many other former Republicans (esp. those far less socially conservative than I) are drawn to it. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:36:35 AM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" Repeat after me. It is not my customers' (voters) fault if I have a shitty platform and field shitty candidates. It is MY fault if I lose an election by offering taxes and authoritarianism to people who want freedom. Now go write it on the white boards at GOP HQ a thousand times. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:37:05 AM EDT
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I will burn down the house rather than settle for 70 percent of what I want I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:41:24 AM EDT
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What they do, of course. (Same as with the Dems, Libs, or anyone else.) But I know what the Dems will do on the national stage, and that is worse than what even the worst RINOs will do in most cases... and at least there is a hope that we can push the GOPers to do the right things (or better things) over time, with no such hope for the Dems. I also know what the Big-L Libertarians will do on the national stage. Lose elections. And sometimes (certainly not always, I'm not one of "those") help the Dems to win. FTR, I think the libertarian-leaning wing of the GOP and Libertarian RINOs (like Ron Paul) have hurt the GOP far more from within than the official Libertarian Party and its candidates have from without... but, sadly, not nearly as much as our own unfaithful RINOs who have behaved like Dem-Lite and cast that shadow over the entire party. I am a lifelong Republican, involved at the local and state level and vocal about national issues, who has lost faith in my party as a whole. Absent major change/improvement, we will fade away or become something unrecognizable. The platform still represents me/my interests/my priorities far more than any other party or group but, regretfully, I can no longer say that of the vast majority of those elected under that banner.
I feel like the proverbial man without a country. The Libertarian Party is not the refuge that I seek, personally, but I certainly understand why so many other former Republicans (esp. those far less socially conservative than I) are drawn to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If that's true, what's more important to you? What they say, or what they do? What they do, of course. (Same as with the Dems, Libs, or anyone else.) But I know what the Dems will do on the national stage, and that is worse than what even the worst RINOs will do in most cases... and at least there is a hope that we can push the GOPers to do the right things (or better things) over time, with no such hope for the Dems. I also know what the Big-L Libertarians will do on the national stage. Lose elections. And sometimes (certainly not always, I'm not one of "those") help the Dems to win. FTR, I think the libertarian-leaning wing of the GOP and Libertarian RINOs (like Ron Paul) have hurt the GOP far more from within than the official Libertarian Party and its candidates have from without... but, sadly, not nearly as much as our own unfaithful RINOs who have behaved like Dem-Lite and cast that shadow over the entire party. I am a lifelong Republican, involved at the local and state level and vocal about national issues, who has lost faith in my party as a whole. Absent major change/improvement, we will fade away or become something unrecognizable. The platform still represents me/my interests/my priorities far more than any other party or group but, regretfully, I can no longer say that of the vast majority of those elected under that banner.
I feel like the proverbial man without a country. The Libertarian Party is not the refuge that I seek, personally, but I certainly understand why so many other former Republicans (esp. those far less socially conservative than I) are drawn to it. I share your feeling of political homelessness. I don't particularly like the LP as a party. It's too idealistic for my tastes, but I honestly can't stomach the GOP any more. They've become as progressive as the Democrats and have gotten worse in terms of their authoritarian side. As a free market capitalist and civil liberties advocate, I can't stomach the Democrats either. What I'm left with is the LP, so imperfect as it is, it's where I'll put my support. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:47:38 AM EDT
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The "independent republican" candidate for SC Govenor, Tom Ervin, just dropped from the race and threw his support behind the Dem. Go figure..... Motherfucker. Plants and moles. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:50:24 AM EDT
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Motherfucker. Plants and moles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "independent republican" candidate for SC Govenor, Tom Ervin, just dropped from the race and threw his support behind the Dem. Go figure..... Motherfucker. Plants and moles. Yep. Republicans, shilling for the damn democrats. IIRC there was a recent case where a local GOP supported the Democrat candidate openly rather than a Tea Party candidate. Someone help me out here. Which one was it? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:52:33 AM EDT
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Yeah. Here's one case. There might be others.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2014/10/28/gop-officials-may-punished-supporting-dems/18094807/ |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 10:57:24 AM EDT
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Motherfucker. Plants and moles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "independent republican" candidate for SC Govenor, Tom Ervin, just dropped from the race and threw his support behind the Dem. Go figure..... Motherfucker. Plants and moles. The LP convinces me more and more every time they pull something like this that that is just what they are: plants and moles. The actions of Sarvis here in VA has made me lean back towards the GOP as distasteful as that is. I feel more and more like the LP is just a front. Which is to bad because I could really support them as I agree with much of what they suppose themselves to be about. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:03:42 AM EDT
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The sooner we all realize that this country is ruled by one party with two different factions the better we will be.
They (the power elite) use the Republican vs. Democrat circus show to distract us and make us think we have a choice in effecting change by "voting" out one or the other.......and the majority of Americans just play along.... What is the definition of insanity? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:11:18 AM EDT
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The sooner we all realize that this country is ruled by one party with two different factions the better we will be. They (the power elite) use the Republican vs. Democrat circus show to distract us and make us think we have a choice in effecting change by "voting" out one or the other.......and the majority of Americans just play along.... What is the definition of insanity? True, but it sounds a lot less tin foil hattish if you just say that smart money (The guys who have a lot because they're good at gaming the system) has already bribed (made sizable donations to) BOTH sides of the aisle and that it's a dirty rigged game that grows dirtier the bigger and older it gets. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:28:37 AM EDT
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Most of the libertarians I heard from said they would rather have a Dem. in office than a Rep.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:30:53 AM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" Yep. "Marijuana should be legal so I will vote 3rd party in protest to help the Dem get elected and ensure higher taxes, larger government, anti-gun laws, and less freedom." Note: This is coming from somebody who thinks marijuana should not be illegal. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:31:56 AM EDT
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The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. Yeah, D's and R's are just alike. 
Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:50:23 AM EDT
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Most of the libertarians I heard from said they would rather have a Dem. in office than a Rep. This..... I work in an office with a very vocal libertarian group. They have open said they would vote for Wendy Davis to punish the Republicans. Libertarians are the fucking crossfit of political affiliations. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:54:16 AM EDT
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Most of the libertarians I heard from said they would rather have a Dem. in office than a Rep. For me it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. I honestly don't give a fuck between most of em any more. If they walked the walk on actually supporting market economics and gun rights I'd prefer a Republican. Since half the time they side with the goddamned Democrats on those, they're of no use to me. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:56:59 AM EDT
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Yeah, D's and R's are just alike.
Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Ztxm0pSQQo/UXAJK0XznkI/AAAAAAAACCU/k0JchEvIiPE/s1600/senate+yes+and+no+votes+on+gun+control.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. Yeah, D's and R's are just alike.
Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Ztxm0pSQQo/UXAJK0XznkI/AAAAAAAACCU/k0JchEvIiPE/s1600/senate+yes+and+no+votes+on+gun+control.png They came reasonably close to being decent on that one. Too bad it's not the exception that proves the rule. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:58:23 AM EDT
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By not falling in line and supporting the Libertarians. I know. You're going to say that's not so, but it really is. Look at the facts: The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. They agreed to fund Obamacare, Ban Machineguns, Raise the debt ceiling, Debase the currency, Bail out the banking industry, keep us involved in wars overseas with no economic or political gain possible from them, maintain the drug war, and generally run the country however their donors (which often donate to both parties) bribe them to run it. In agreeing on so many things, they're essentially working together and pretending to hate each other so folks think there's still a meaningful choice. They even simplified it down to just colors Red and Blue. In a lot of ways, the color is the biggest difference between them. So if you're thinking of wasting your vote on a Republican, keep in mind that you're actually helping the Democrats beat the LP. We all know the GOP won't be able to keep from taking it in the ass by giving the Dems the ammo to bukake them into oblivion again, so why waste the vote? Vote for a party that actually DOESN'T want to run your life or take half your cash. All you have to do is be willing to pass that level of freedom onto your neighbors even if you dislike what they'll do with it. Think about that for a second. How important is it to keep those damn queers from getting married in your state? Is it worth the taxes you'll pay under the Demicans?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 11:59:05 AM EDT
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Damn, the dopey-derp is heavy here!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:12:53 PM EDT
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This..... I work in an office with a very vocal libertarian group. They have open said they would vote for Wendy Davis to punish the Republicans. Libertarians are the fucking crossfit of political affiliations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of the libertarians I heard from said they would rather have a Dem. in office than a Rep. This..... I work in an office with a very vocal libertarian group. They have open said they would vote for Wendy Davis to punish the Republicans. Libertarians are the fucking crossfit of political affiliations. LOL, this. Libertarians are the hipsters of politics. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, D's and R's are just alike. Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Ztxm0pSQQo/UXAJK0XznkI/AAAAAAAACCU/k0JchEvIiPE/s1600/senate+yes+and+no+votes+on+gun+control.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. Yeah, D's and R's are just alike. Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Ztxm0pSQQo/UXAJK0XznkI/AAAAAAAACCU/k0JchEvIiPE/s1600/senate+yes+and+no+votes+on+gun+control.png  |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 12:55:38 PM EDT
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I can't argue with OP. It's the damn truth. But, I voted R all the way down yesterday. Why? I have no choice. If the democrats keep winning there won't ever be a place for a libertarian party. We have to change the Republican Party from within. How? Fuck if I know because all they care about are lobbyists. All true, But I've given up on the Rino Party. It clearly doesn't honor the values that the Republican Party used to hold sacred. The NEW Republican Party may as well be be called the Democratic LIGHT Party! This year for the first time, I only voted for ONE Republican, John Mica. For the rest, I voted for a mix of LPs, and a few of what I consider GOOD democrats, and just plain old write in candidates! I WILL NOT support, or even tolerate, the new RINO party! As for the NEW Republican party, I'm voting with my feet! And my money! 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:00:55 PM EDT
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I keep telling you, Libertarianism is a greater threat to America than Communism. Libertarians will be the death of us all!
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep telling you, Libertarianism is a greater threat to America than Communism. Libertarians will be the death of us all! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:25:49 PM EDT
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LoL 3rd party people are not going to save the Republic, they're helping to sink it. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:35:35 PM EDT
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They came reasonably close to being decent on that one. Too bad it's not the exception that proves the rule. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The GOP and the DNC are far closer to each other than either is to the LP's platform. Yeah, D's and R's are just alike.
Just look at the 2013 gun vote. Oh, wait. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_Ztxm0pSQQo/UXAJK0XznkI/AAAAAAAACCU/k0JchEvIiPE/s1600/senate+yes+and+no+votes+on+gun+control.png They came reasonably close to being decent on that one. Too bad it's not the exception that proves the rule. How did the libertarians vote? Oh thats right. They didn't. But they sent a message to the republicans. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:37:26 PM EDT
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LoL 3rd party people are not going to save the Republic, they're helping to sink it. Cause yeah. The Democans aren't fucking it up at ALL.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:40:27 PM EDT
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I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
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I will burn down the house rather than settle for 70 percent of what I want I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
That perception works both ways. Republicans could easily dominate American politics and get 70%+ of what they want. Instead they burn the house down because they can't let go of the idea that the coercive power of government is a weapon they can use in the culture war. I certainly don't feel like I'm getting 70% of what I want from the GOP either. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:44:13 PM EDT
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The Libertarian party used to be Republicans angry at the direction the Republican party has taken, now it's composed of Democrats that want to support the Democratic party and Democratic candidates but don't want to be associated with their authoritarian policies. They're a bunch of academics that want to sit around and be fashionable with their leftist friends instead of winning. All the Libertarians that want to win have become active in the Republican party over the last six years or so.
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Think about that for a second. How important is it to keep those damn queers from getting married in your state? Is it worth the taxes you'll pay under the Demicans?
The Libertarian governor candidate in VA wanted a carbon tax and a miles-driven tax, and all he talked about during the entire campaign was how bad the Republican candidate was for being a social conservative. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:47:06 PM EDT
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Repeat after me. It is not my customers' (voters) fault if I have a shitty platform and field shitty candidates. It is MY fault if I lose an election by offering taxes and authoritarianism to people who want freedom. Now go write it on the white boards at GOP HQ a thousand times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" Repeat after me. It is not my customers' (voters) fault if I have a shitty platform and field shitty candidates. It is MY fault if I lose an election by offering taxes and authoritarianism to people who want freedom. Now go write it on the white boards at GOP HQ a thousand times. The GOP sucks, the L party suck even more because they run candidates even worse. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:51:46 PM EDT
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I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
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I will burn down the house rather than settle for 70 percent of what I want I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
So Jefferson, Franklin and Adams got 100 percent of what they wanted? There are even classes in college on how their views often opposed one another. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots"  |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:52:44 PM EDT
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So Jefferson, Franklin and Adams got 100 percent of what they wanted? There are even classes in college on how their views often opposed one another. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will burn down the house rather than settle for 70 percent of what I want I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way.
So Jefferson, Franklin and Adams got 100 percent of what they wanted? There are even classes in college on how their views often opposed one another. Which is why we have 3 national symbols. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:54:04 PM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" That match strikes both ways. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I will burn down the house rather than settle for 70 percent of what I want I am eternally grateful that Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, et al did not think that way. They would rather sign a document committing Treason to the crown, plot and prepare to lose their lives, their families, and see the complete end of their country, as they knew it under the crown, and to destroy their lives in pursuit of 100% of the freedom that they want, rather than settle for the 70% freedom they found under the crown. You don't know your founding fathers, nor do you fully respect the sacrifices they made for you. Don't be blinded by colors, party platforms, and claiming the Republcans only "ACT" like Dem-Lite! The ACT is the Platform upon which they stand that the blind conservatives continue to vote! The politicians are NOT acting! They ARE Dem-Lite! They only ACT to pander to sticklers of the old platform. Only until your life has been duly and truly fucked up good and hard up the ass by BOTH parties, only THEN will you see they are not very different at all. You only see the different you want to see. You only see the candidates how you want to see them... Because you only see them the way the worldwide propaganda machines want you to see them - as if they are the only choice.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep telling you, Libertarianism is a greater threat to America than Communism. Libertarians will be the death of us all! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:11:32 PM EDT
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The libertarians want to send a message to republicans. they have. "we're idiots" That match strikes both ways. so what you are saying is that republicans should vote for the libertarian candidate? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 2:14:48 PM EDT
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What is a Liberaltarian anyway? A Democrat with a gun?
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