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The Republicans are fucking up the Republican party. Things like what happened with the primary in Mississippi. The Republican party wants to ignore the tea party crowd and the libertarian crowd. The want big government social conservative s and that is a shrinking group. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Let's not carried away here..........I still think the GOP will regain the Senate and retain the House next week. And that is a fuck of a lot better than having the 'tards in control IMHO. You say that like there's a difference. GOP has to be in cahoots with 'crats. There's no other reasonable explanation for how they continue to field completely unelectable people. All hail the republicrat party. |
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While I love a good libertarian temper tantrum, you missed the forest for the trees. The dems believe the reps will lose more. They believe it enough to put money on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Say hello to reality: For now, we have a two party system. Who funds Libertarians? Dems. Why? Self-evident: Libertarians on the ballot will help Dem Socialists achieve their goals. How is that not correct???? It is correct if we assume that the people who are voting L would normally otherwise vote R. And if the GOP wants those votes, they should do something to go get them. Or they could keep doing what they always do, and fucking lose every race. Whatever. While I love a good libertarian temper tantrum, you missed the forest for the trees. The dems believe the reps will lose more. They believe it enough to put money on it. There are some upset republicans in this thread that believe it too. My point is that if these parties are so similar then the GOP could run damage control by running more libertarian-friendly candidates (eg a Rand Paul) instead of the usual shitbirds they roll out. |
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There are some upset republicans in this thread that believe it too. My point is that if these parties are so similar then the GOP could run damage control by running more libertarian-friendly candidates (eg a Rand Paul) instead of the usual shitbirds they roll out. View Quote No... We have to go back to the usual shitbirds because of the TEAM! |
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Quoted: Yeah, because I secretly want Liberals to win, just so a drug that I wouldn't do (and I get tested for) can be legalized. You caught me. Thanks for using the term "liberaltarian," though. Really helps me to instantly weed out (get it?) the derpy comments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. Yeah, because I secretly want Liberals to win, just so a drug that I wouldn't do (and I get tested for) can be legalized. You caught me. Thanks for using the term "liberaltarian," though. Really helps me to instantly weed out (get it?) the derpy comments. |
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Says the one who's claiming that Libertarians HAVE to go back to the GOP TEAM. They do not belong to the GOP TEAM. They are free agents. Everyone is. If they GOP wants their votes, they best do something to keep them as a voting block. Instead they don't. So the GOP continues to fail; it pushes ideas like SOPA, and similar bullshit. Mayhaps if the GOP took a step towards limited government. Towards freedom. Towards Net Neutrality. Towards inclusivity, rather than exclusion, they'd win. So once again I say, Who has the real power here... The GOP who can't win without the Libertarians, or the Libertarians who aren't going to get what they want? Lets game it... GOP gives Libertarians what they want... GOP and Libertarians win. DNC loses. DNC gives Libertarians what they want... DNC and Libertarians win. GOP loses. DNC doesn't give Libertarians what they want, and neither the GOP does the GOP... DNC wins, Libertarians and GOP loses. So seems the GOP only wins by giving the Libertarians what they want. Libertarians can win despite the GOP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My POINT!!!!!! You are playing chicken with our future. No one says GOP is entitled to anyone's vote. But a third party in many of these situations strengthens the socialists. Fight it out in the primary. Pull the Repubs toward Libertarianism. But if you lose in the spring, get back on the team in November. The negative impact of losing this year, and in '16, will resound for decades. How about this: If Libertarians are too full of fail to persuade Repubs to their way of thinking, they don't deserve anyone's vote. No, the Republicans are playing chicken with our future. There are plenty in this thread who are saying that the GOP is entitled to the Libertarian vote, after all that's what this is all about. You yourself are saying it in the bolded sentence. If the GOP can't win without the Libertarians, then they best do something to attract them. Instead they don't. They feel they are entitled to that vote. They aren't. Libertarians aren't going to win. But without them, are the Republicans going to lose? Tell us who has the real power there. If the Libertarians can't persuade Repubs, or haven't worked the primary process hard enough, why should the whole country go down the shitter? Why is this the fault of the Repubs, that Libertarians failed to persuade them? You're like Rosie O'Donnell blaming the spoon, man. Says the one who's claiming that Libertarians HAVE to go back to the GOP TEAM. They do not belong to the GOP TEAM. They are free agents. Everyone is. If they GOP wants their votes, they best do something to keep them as a voting block. Instead they don't. So the GOP continues to fail; it pushes ideas like SOPA, and similar bullshit. Mayhaps if the GOP took a step towards limited government. Towards freedom. Towards Net Neutrality. Towards inclusivity, rather than exclusion, they'd win. So once again I say, Who has the real power here... The GOP who can't win without the Libertarians, or the Libertarians who aren't going to get what they want? Lets game it... GOP gives Libertarians what they want... GOP and Libertarians win. DNC loses. DNC gives Libertarians what they want... DNC and Libertarians win. GOP loses. DNC doesn't give Libertarians what they want, and neither the GOP does the GOP... DNC wins, Libertarians and GOP loses. So seems the GOP only wins by giving the Libertarians what they want. Libertarians can win despite the GOP. Please describe a world where Hillary is prez, Reid runs the Senate, and the Libertarians are "winners." Do pot and abortion outweigh the right to own a gun, free speech, and freedom from .gov persecution for your political beliefs? How long would it take for a solidly Dem USGov to start coming after Libertarians for THEIR political views? Leftists will partner with anyone necessary, until such time as the partner is no longer needed. Hitler/Stalin---- Dems/'tarians. Don't worry, YOUR Operation Barbarossa will come, and you will lose. |
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Please describe a world where Hillary is prez, Reid runs the Senate, and the Libertarians are "winners." Do pot and abortion outweigh the right to own a gun, free speech, and freedom from .gov persecution for your political beliefs? How long would it take for a solidly Dem USGov to start coming after Libertarians for THEIR political views? Leftists will partner with anyone necessary, until such time as the partner is no longer needed. Hitler/Stalin---- Dems/'tarians. Don't worry, YOUR Operation Barbarossa will come, and you will lose. View Quote Libertarians currently have a "nonaggression pact" with the far left of the Democratic party. |
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There are some upset republicans in this thread that believe it too. My point is that if these parties are so similar then the GOP could run damage control by running more libertarian-friendly candidates (eg a Rand Paul) instead of the usual shitbirds they roll out. No... We have to go back to the usual shitbirds because of the TEAM! Jeez. Fight it out in the primary. Make your case, and win. If the "establishment" has defeated you so far, figure out how to beat them. Don't just say fuck it and pull the pin on a grenade in your own foxhole. If it doesn't go your way this time, work on it. Primaries are for specific policy desires. November is for policy NECESSITIES. Like not losing SCOTUS for a generation. Which party is most easily influenced by the Tea Party types? Clearly the Repubs. If Teabaggers stay home and a Dem wins, who loses? For me, it's CRUZ in 16. If the nominee is Rand Paul, I'M STAYING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! Tantrums around here. |
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Please describe a world where Hillary is prez, Reid runs the Senate, and the Libertarians are "winners." Do pot and abortion outweigh the right to own a gun, free speech, and freedom from .gov persecution for your political beliefs? How long would it take for a solidly Dem USGov to start coming after Libertarians for THEIR political views? Leftists will partner with anyone necessary, until such time as the partner is no longer needed. Hitler/Stalin---- Dems/'tarians. Don't worry, YOUR Operation Barbarossa will come, and you will lose. View Quote Please describe a world where McCain is prez, McConnell runs the Senate, and the Libertarians are "winners." Do homos not getting their weddings, Comcast/TimeWarner and AT&T charging exorbitant fees on competing companies, no-knock raids on trumped up evidence, and war with Iran, Syria, Russia and China all simultaneously out weigh your right to peaceably assemble, have free speech, and freedom from .gov persecution for your poetical beliefs? How long would it take for a solidly GOP USGov to start coming after Libertarians for THEIR political views? Oh right, we had that. 8 years ago. We had the Dem thing for the last 6 years. Well shit partner. You're not helping your case, especially given that Republicans are doing equally bad. So please keep telling us how we have to back YOUR team. |
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Jeez. Fight it out in the primary. Make your case, and win. If the "establishment" has defeated you so far, figure out how to beat them. Don't just say fuck it and pull the pin on a grenade in your own foxhole. If it doesn't go your way this time, work on it. Primaries are for specific policy desires. November is for policy NECESSITIES. Like not losing SCOTUS for a generation. Which party is most easily influenced by the Tea Party types? Clearly the Repubs. If Teabaggers stay home and a Dem wins, who loses? For me, it's CRUZ in 16. If the nominee is Rand Paul, I'M STAYING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! Tantrums around here. View Quote Did you miss that 2 years ago, buckwheat? If Ron Paul is the Nominee I'm staying home! PaulBots, et al? Funny, did you vote for any libertarian candidates during the last primary season? Were there any, or where they driven out by the state apparatchik in your area? Do you want Big Government under the Dems? or do you want Big Government under the Repubs? How about not wanting either. |
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There are some upset republicans in this thread that believe it too. My point is that if these parties are so similar then the GOP could run damage control by running more libertarian-friendly candidates (eg a Rand Paul) instead of the usual shitbirds they roll out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Say hello to reality: For now, we have a two party system. Who funds Libertarians? Dems. Why? Self-evident: Libertarians on the ballot will help Dem Socialists achieve their goals. How is that not correct???? It is correct if we assume that the people who are voting L would normally otherwise vote R. And if the GOP wants those votes, they should do something to go get them. Or they could keep doing what they always do, and fucking lose every race. Whatever. While I love a good libertarian temper tantrum, you missed the forest for the trees. The dems believe the reps will lose more. They believe it enough to put money on it. There are some upset republicans in this thread that believe it too. My point is that if these parties are so similar then the GOP could run damage control by running more libertarian-friendly candidates (eg a Rand Paul) instead of the usual shitbirds they roll out. Ya gotta work for it in the primaries. Gotta get your feet dirty early. Can't just piss and bitch at the national election when magic fucking monkeys didn't miracle you the guy you like simply because you pissed a streak on a chat board. |
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) View Quote Odd. What it tells me is that libertarians would rather see a democrat in office than a republican. |
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Ya gotta work for it in the primaries. Gotta get your feet dirty early. Can't just piss and bitch at the national election when magic fucking monkeys didn't miracle you the guy you like simply because you pissed a streak on a chat board. View Quote Maybe you should put these rules for voting R in the party platform. Honestly though, people are going to vote for who they want. If the majority of GOPers vote for a status quo politician in the primaries, then they are not likely to get libertarian voters. And if they lose to the Democrat because of it, it's simply because the Republican's message was not palatable to enough voters. Period. |
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The GOP should go after the black/hispanic vote and ignore libs. Imagine the epic butthurt if the GOP cleaned house due to "minority" voters. Dems and libs wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind if they were fucked over using their own strategy.
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Whew! Missed like six pages of this thread. Can I assume that all the Libertarians have agreed to vote R, and all the GOP folks are going to vote L next Tuesday? And Feebmaster is actually going to vote?
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Every time the Libertarians get elected to Congress and National office, they become more obsessed with power and money than actually limiting the size of government.
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Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. It's only about weed for a small minority of libertarians. Most just want smaller government and lower taxes. If the Republicans would get their shit together, many of those people would vote for them again. |
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Libertarians on the other hand are closer in my mind to anarchists and are much more closely aligned to extreme left Dem aims than they want to let on. View Quote This is increasingly becoming the real issue, the inconvenient truth of the matter. You can see it here quite often, so called libertarians cheering on Federal court power at the expense of state law and autonomy. Never thought I would see libertarians do that. It's shameful. |
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Quoted: This is increasingly becoming the real issue, the inconvenient truth of the matter. You can see it here quite often, so called libertarians cheering on Federal court power at the expense of state law and autonomy. Never thought I would see libertarians do that. It's shameful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Libertarians on the other hand are closer in my mind to anarchists and are much more closely aligned to extreme left Dem aims than they want to let on. This is increasingly becoming the real issue, the inconvenient truth of the matter. You can see it here quite often, so called libertarians cheering on Federal court power at the expense of state law and autonomy. Never thought I would see libertarians do that. It's shameful. Elaborate...do tell what Federal court power libertarians cheer on that degrades the power of the states. Gonna guess it's by forbidding them from enacting gay-marriage bans. Amirite? Which, if that's where you're hanging your argument, is not any kind of breakdown in libertarian philosophy - equal rights are, if not recognized by the state, the domain of the Federal government and its power. I can't think of anything else that a libertarian would want the federal courts ruling that inhibits the state powers. |
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Gonna guess it's by forbidding them from enacting gay-marriage bans. Amirite? Which, if that's where you're hanging your argument, is not any kind of breakdown in libertarian philosophy - equal rights are, if not recognized by the state, the domain of the Federal government and its power. View Quote So the Libertarians are in favor of the Federal Government enforcing equal rights that individual states don't recognize, upon ALL the states? |
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Elaborate...do tell what Federal court power libertarians cheer on that degrades the power of the states. Gonna guess it's by forbidding them from enacting gay-marriage bans. Amirite? Which, if that's where you're hanging your argument, is not any kind of breakdown in libertarian philosophy - equal rights are, if not recognized by the state, the domain of the Federal government and its power. I can't think of anything else that a libertarian would want the federal courts ruling that inhibits the state powers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Libertarians on the other hand are closer in my mind to anarchists and are much more closely aligned to extreme left Dem aims than they want to let on. This is increasingly becoming the real issue, the inconvenient truth of the matter. You can see it here quite often, so called libertarians cheering on Federal court power at the expense of state law and autonomy. Never thought I would see libertarians do that. It's shameful. Elaborate...do tell what Federal court power libertarians cheer on that degrades the power of the states. Gonna guess it's by forbidding them from enacting gay-marriage bans. Amirite? Which, if that's where you're hanging your argument, is not any kind of breakdown in libertarian philosophy - equal rights are, if not recognized by the state, the domain of the Federal government and its power. I can't think of anything else that a libertarian would want the federal courts ruling that inhibits the state powers. Except you're just making up rights. Marriage is to be regulated by the states, it is not a right. It is a license. Hell, we can make up all kinds of human rights....the left does it every day. The right to affordable housing, the right to free health care, etc. etc. Useful idiots. You would better be served by winning this debate in state legislatures....it was coming anyway. That is how it is suppose to be done. |
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Whew! Missed like six pages of this thread. Can I assume that all the Libertarians have agreed to vote R, and all the GOP folks are going to vote L next Tuesday? And Feebmaster is actually going to vote? Surely after ten pages some minds must have been changed. Foley or Malloy? Which one is the Republican, again? You're in CT? That actually explains a lot about your attitudes towards politics. |
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No party is entitled to anybody's vote. You want it, then you make the case to them as to why they should vote for you. In a tight race like this one, I'd say vote republican. If it's going heavily in favor of one, then I'd say go ahead and vote your conscience. View Quote Rand Paul is staunch pro life, pro traditional marriage, against open borders etc. Most "libertarians" have vowed they will NEVER vote for any "shitbird" candidate with those traditional libertarian values and party with those platforms. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Thomas Massie, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, Justin Amash, Tim Scott, the vast majority of Republicans and half of independents. Like this and countless other 'fuck the gop' internet dem troll threads. Half of Americans would never vote your conscience for the shitbag libertarian party or democrat party with dem lite shitbirds and similar progressive platforms they roll out.. Turds of a feather. 2 sides of the same pos. Both are EVIL. Check out the cuntbag backstabbing POS libertarian dem comments on youtube. Club for Growth PAC Congratulates Dan Sullivan Club for Growth PAC Endorses Dan Sullivan For U.S. Senate http://www.clubforgrowth.org/candidate/dan-sullivan/ |
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) View Quote The libertarian party will never see a significant number of votes. Ever. |
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) The libertarian party will never see a significant number of votes. Ever. I think that was his point. If the libertarian party receives an insignificant amount of votes, then how are libertarians responsible for republican loses? |
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Rand Paul is staunch pro life, pro traditional marriage, against open borders etc. Most "libertarians" have vowed they will NEVER vote for any "shitbird" candidate with those traditional libertarian values and party with those platforms. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Thomas Massie, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, Justin Amash, Tim Scott, the vast majority of Republicans and half of independents. Like this and countless other 'fuck the gop' internet dem troll threads. Half of Americans would never vote your conscience for the shitbag libertarian party or democrat party with dem lite shitbirds and similar progressive platforms they roll out.. Turds of a feather. 2 sides of the same pos. Both are EVIL. Check out the cuntbag backstabbing POS libertarian dem comments on youtube. Club for Growth PAC Congratulates Dan Sullivan Club for Growth PAC Endorses Dan Sullivan For U.S. Senate http://www.clubforgrowth.org/candidate/dan-sullivan/ http://youtu.be/7EoAn6fO5qw http://youtu.be/BqYEZWs_PMk View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No party is entitled to anybody's vote. You want it, then you make the case to them as to why they should vote for you. In a tight race like this one, I'd say vote republican. If it's going heavily in favor of one, then I'd say go ahead and vote your conscience. Rand Paul is staunch pro life, pro traditional marriage, against open borders etc. Most "libertarians" have vowed they will NEVER vote for any "shitbird" candidate with those traditional libertarian values and party with those platforms. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Thomas Massie, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, Justin Amash, Tim Scott, the vast majority of Republicans and half of independents. Like this and countless other 'fuck the gop' internet dem troll threads. Half of Americans would never vote your conscience for the shitbag libertarian party or democrat party with dem lite shitbirds and similar progressive platforms they roll out.. Turds of a feather. 2 sides of the same pos. Both are EVIL. Check out the cuntbag backstabbing POS libertarian dem comments on youtube. Club for Growth PAC Congratulates Dan Sullivan Club for Growth PAC Endorses Dan Sullivan For U.S. Senate http://www.clubforgrowth.org/candidate/dan-sullivan/ http://youtu.be/7EoAn6fO5qw http://youtu.be/BqYEZWs_PMk Just sayin... Former Club For Growth President Pat Toomey partners with democrats on gun control |
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Every time the Libertarians get elected to Congress and National office, they become more obsessed with power and money than actually limiting the size of government. I know man, right? GOP never does that, only dozens of libertarians who keep getting elected to congress and then turn coating! Name a few Libertarians that have been elected to Congress. Good luck! |
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Fuck politics. Go look at my M1009 blazer thread. It has pitchers. Too lazy to look for it. Require link. military blazer Ass gass or grass, buddy. Thanks. Cool thread. |
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Say hello to reality: For now, we have a two party system. Who funds Libertarians? Dems. Why? Self-evident: Libertarians on the ballot will help Dem Socialists achieve their goals. How is that not correct???? It's all about the weed. Are you projecting? Do you think if weed is legalized you will try it because you are weak minded and need the gov to tell you it's bad? I've never done any drug,never smoked,and never drank.It's a freedom issue,plain and simple. |
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The Republicans are flawed. Therefore it's okay if Dems/Socialists USE Libertarians to get elected-- resulting in Prez Hil and the end of the 2A. Is that a pretty good summary of this and many of the posts in this thread? This is simple: as long as we have a two party system, Libertarians must fight it out in the Repub primary-- then get back on the team. Otherwise we have a game of chicken-- help Dem Socialists get elected, hoping things get really bad really soon, and the country sees the light, returning to true Libertarianism. Like all games of chicken, sudden death is a very realistic outcome. Sort of like Obama playing "chicken" with Malaki. The result is ISIS. For us, the result will be a 5-4 or 6-3 overturning of Heller, and the end of the 2A as we now know it. For the lives of our children and grandchildren. Are YOU ready to take responsibility for that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. The Republicans are flawed. Therefore it's okay if Dems/Socialists USE Libertarians to get elected-- resulting in Prez Hil and the end of the 2A. Is that a pretty good summary of this and many of the posts in this thread? This is simple: as long as we have a two party system, Libertarians must fight it out in the Repub primary-- then get back on the team. Otherwise we have a game of chicken-- help Dem Socialists get elected, hoping things get really bad really soon, and the country sees the light, returning to true Libertarianism. Like all games of chicken, sudden death is a very realistic outcome. Sort of like Obama playing "chicken" with Malaki. The result is ISIS. For us, the result will be a 5-4 or 6-3 overturning of Heller, and the end of the 2A as we now know it. For the lives of our children and grandchildren. Are YOU ready to take responsibility for that? Shit,we could have ended up with all sorts of gun control under a President Romney,but all the R cult followers would have justified it because "it would have been worse under Obama". I'm originally from upstate NY and learned my lesson from Republican Governor Pataki-supposedly pro gun and talked a good game,then pushes and signs an AWB.Gave me the kick in the ass to get out of that fucking shithole state. Then the R party lets the POS Romney run?Romney that was all for gov mandated healthcare and fines if you didn't have it?Against guns?Not wanting to "chip away at existing gun laws"-meaning what's on the books stays on the books until the D side (or maybe R side) adds more? The Republican Party needs to stand up and allow only candidates that ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE REPUBLICAN PLANK to run for President. |
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