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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:35:40 AM EDT
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:37:17 AM EDT
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:40:12 AM EDT
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Happened here in MT last election.
Democrat senator quite putting any money on himself and the PAC's,etc. dumped money into the libertarian candidate. Took the lib vote from the (R) and gave it to a dumbass. I don't like the Repubs much either, but it would have been preferable to our dipshit Democrat going back in. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:41:55 AM EDT
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected.
Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:47:04 AM EDT
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Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. As long as republicans continue to dismiss libertarians as single-issue mj voters, we will not return to a conservative America and we will continue to get milquetoast candidates like Romney and McCain. Several members here, like the one above, favor this sort of "progress. " |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:49:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:50:26 AM EDT
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) This. Fuck the GOP. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:51:19 AM EDT
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GOP screws up the GOPs campaign.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:52:44 AM EDT
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Get a grip man. If you don't like it then encourage your Republican candidates to support some libertarian principals and actually EARN the votes that you feel they're entitled to.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:54:57 AM EDT
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The GOP wouldn't be vulnerable to attacks from the LP if it wasn't spending like Democrats and trying to run peoples' lives.
Just sayin'. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:55:27 AM EDT
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Get a grip man. If you don't like it then encourage your Republican candidates to support some libertarian principals and actually EARN the votes that you feel they're entitled to. Get out of here with your common sense. It is not wanted here. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:56:04 AM EDT
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So what you're saying is that the GOP candidate is so incompetent and/or unappealing that they can't even take away votes from a third party candidate in a two party system. A fool like that doesn't deserve to rule. In contrast, his opponent seems to be doing better at the first requirement to govern - winning.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:57:07 AM EDT
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Recently, Begich’s campaign has even run radio commercials touting Fish’s candidacy alongside his own -- meaning that since Fish hasn’t spent any money to advertise his own campaign, Begich has now spent more money promoting Fish than Fish has himself. "He likes my positions so well, I’m looking forward to an endorsement,” Fish said in an interview Tuesday. Begich’s official position is that he wants third-party candidates like Fish to be heard. "Since many of the debate hosts won’t include Mr. Fish, Sen. Begich believes it is only fair to give Alaska voters all the information,” Max Croes, Begich’s communications director, said in an emailed statement. But several observers say Begich’s effort to boost Fish’s profile is actually a shrewd act of electioneering -- one likely designed to drive shaky Sullivan supporters into Fish’s column, and shaky Fish voters to Begich. The number of voters in the pool is small, but in a tight and costly election, the strategy makes sense, one local pollster said. http://www.adn.com/article/20141028/tight-us-senate-race-enemy-begichs-enemy-his-friend So Alaska Libertarians are closer to Alaska Democrats? Huh. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 8:59:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GOP screws up the GOPs campaign. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:03:09 AM EDT
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) Because getting 5% to shift votes can lose an election. Getting enough R's to vote L and actually win an election is a fantasy. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:03:50 AM EDT
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Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. Yeah, because I secretly want Liberals to win, just so a drug that I wouldn't do (and I get tested for) can be legalized. You caught me. 
Thanks for using the term "liberaltarian," though. Really helps me to instantly weed out (get it?) the derpy comments. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:06:36 AM EDT
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:07:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because getting 5% to shift votes can lose an election. Getting enough R's to vote L and actually win an election is a fantasy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) Because getting 5% to shift votes can lose an election. Getting enough R's to vote L and actually win an election is a fantasy. You're in a fantasy land if you think reelecting people like Boehner, McConnell, and McCain is good for the country just because they have (R) after their name. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:08:38 AM EDT
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I'd be interested to see the poll they mention that has Fish at 4.5%, but they don't link to it.
I looked up a poll this morning for AK Senate race of likely voters: poll link Begich 41% Sullivan 42% Other 0% Not sure 9% Sounds to me like they should be more worried about "Not Sure" than "Other", but saying "We just failed to convince voters to pull the handle for us" just isn't as fun as saying "That guy stole my votes!" I guess. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:08:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:08:58 AM EDT
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I love it when someone claims that you put Democrats in office when you don't even vote for the Democrat.
Stupidity like that is always amusing. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:11:47 AM EDT
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I'm donating heavily to the green party before the next prez election.
Two can play at this game. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:12:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm donating heavily to the green party before the next prez election. Two can play at this game. The Green party cost Gore the election in 2000. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:13:03 AM EDT
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:13:35 AM EDT
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I love the weekly "libertarians are a fringe group that can't get elected dog catcher but are responsible for the country collapsing when the RNC loses an election" threads.
They are full of fresh thinking and can really get a man excited to caucus with the RNC. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:14:31 AM EDT
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I love it when someone claims that you put Democrats in office when you don't even vote for the Democrat. Stupidity like that is always amusing. You gotta love liberal logic. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:14:34 AM EDT
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In before they arrest him.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:17:35 AM EDT
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats lol |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:18:30 AM EDT
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats lol I think democrats lose as many if not more than the republicans from the libertarian vote. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:18:53 AM EDT
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FL too.....
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:19:46 AM EDT
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The GOP is gearing up to run Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush. I think they **might** bear some responsibility for losing.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:21:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GOP screws up the GOPs campaign. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:21:39 AM EDT
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I think democrats lose as many if not more than the republicans from the libertarian vote. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats lol I think democrats lose as many if not more than the republicans from the libertarian vote. Not only this^ but look at political polls for young people, who are the next generation of voters. Young people have a bad taste from Repubs like Bush. They lean Democrat, yes.... But an overwhelming percentage, higher than ever before in American history, feel "Independent." Republicans can either cling to their dying party and fail as more and more Millenials begin to vote - or take a more Libertarian position and take back ground. ETA: It found that [the] youngest sector of the group, those 18-24, are becoming less Democratic and more Republican. In 2010, 38 percent called themselves Democrats. That has dropped to 35 percent. And those identifying as Republicans has edged up from 23 percent to 25 percent. 25% R, 35% D, 30% I Republicans could take those I votes and secure the young people's vote for generations to come. But, you know fuck that. Devil's weed and all. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:22:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats Not exactly but the last few elections they've been running strawmen under the Libertarian banner, like Robert Sarvis in the 2013 VA Governors election and now for Senate. He's pro open borders and thinks humans cause climate change. 
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:24:10 AM EDT
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Have fun with the new Dem representative!
YES WE CAN! |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:24:12 AM EDT
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If they ran good candidates it shouldn't matter
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:24:16 AM EDT
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............... Not only this^ but look at political polls for young people, who are the next generation of voters. Young people have a bad taste from Repubs like Bush. They lean Democrat, yes.... But an overwhelming percentage, higher than ever before in American history, feel "Independent." Republicans can either cling to their dying party and fail as more and more Millenials begin to vote - or take a more Libertarian position and take back ground. I guess we must be wrong because you do see democrats campaigning for libertarians. So I guess I am wrong..........fuck............I have no real idea, I'm just being subjective. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:24:21 AM EDT
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) The Moral Majority crowd repeatedly tells the libertarian wing of the GOP to take a hike and/or declares them 'irrelevant', then gets butthurt when enough do to swing the election. But it's not their fault. Or something like that. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:26:36 AM EDT
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Okay, so someone familiar with Alaska politics explain this to me:
How is the incumbent Democrat polling better than the 39% Obama got in '08?
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:26:53 AM EDT
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Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get your house in order before blaming someone else, then I'd imagine these sentiments would have no basis for existence. Liberaltarians boosting national socialists? They've been doing that all along. It's all about the weed, man. Derp. If the GOP could possibly pull it's god-damned head out of its ass, it might get ahead of the legalizing of MJ idea. It's gonna happen. It's unavoidable. But the GOP will be left with it's dick swinging in the wind... again. Bunch of idiots. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:27:40 AM EDT
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Not only this^ but look at political polls for young people, who are the next generation of voters. Young people have a bad taste from Repubs like Bush. They lean Democrat, yes.... But an overwhelming percentage, higher than ever before in American history, feel "Independent." Republicans can either cling to their dying party and fail as more and more Millenials begin to vote - or take a more Libertarian position and take back ground. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats lol I think democrats lose as many if not more than the republicans from the libertarian vote. Not only this^ but look at political polls for young people, who are the next generation of voters. Young people have a bad taste from Repubs like Bush. They lean Democrat, yes.... But an overwhelming percentage, higher than ever before in American history, feel "Independent." Republicans can either cling to their dying party and fail as more and more Millenials begin to vote - or take a more Libertarian position and take back ground. Yep. It's up to the GOP. Adapt or go extinct. The LP or someone similar will be happy to offer a better product for the next generation once it gets tired of funding Obama's utopia. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:28:11 AM EDT
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Sarvis is on the VA ticket for Senate, he was also on the VA ticket for Governor. Even his own comments show him to be more of a D than L.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:29:20 AM EDT
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Sarvis is on the VA ticket for Senate, he was also on the VA ticket for Governor. Even his own comments show him to be more of a D than L. So do you think he will take more votes from the D or the R? |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:30:39 AM EDT
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The Republicans are fucking up the Republican party. Things like what happened with the primary in Mississippi. The Republican party wants to ignore the tea party crowd and the libertarian crowd. The want big government social conservative s and that is a shrinking group.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:30:46 AM EDT
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Blame the voters if they're so easily beguiled or tricked that a candidate other than the Republican can steal them away from where they really belong.
In the contest of ideas, it's your own fucking goobers that blow it. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Fuck all of you line-toters for not getting that. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:31:24 AM EDT
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Wish the Republicans would get out of the morality business and stick to a smaller-governemtn-with-a-balanced-budget platform.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:31:41 AM EDT
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Yep. It's up to the GOP. Adapt or go extinct. The LP or someone similar will be happy to offer a better product for the next generation once it gets tired of funding Obama's utopia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've thought for a long time that the libertarians are a front group for the democrats lol I think democrats lose as many if not more than the republicans from the libertarian vote. Not only this^ but look at political polls for young people, who are the next generation of voters. Young people have a bad taste from Repubs like Bush. They lean Democrat, yes.... But an overwhelming percentage, higher than ever before in American history, feel "Independent." Republicans can either cling to their dying party and fail as more and more Millenials begin to vote - or take a more Libertarian position and take back ground. Yep. It's up to the GOP. Adapt or go extinct. The LP or someone similar will be happy to offer a better product for the next generation once it gets tired of funding Obama's utopia. So your attitude is that until 50% of america agrees with you, you will support the democratic party. but its not your job to change other peoples mind. You will sit back and wait for them to come to you. and libertarians should only run for national office. state and local elections are for the little people. big thinkers and all. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:32:15 AM EDT
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The Moral Majority crowd repeatedly tells the libertarian wing of the GOP to take a hike and/or declares them 'irrelevant', then gets butthurt when enough do to swing the election. But it's not their fault. Or something like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love how Republicans keep blaming libertarians for stealing votes, ruining the election for them and getting a Democrat elected. Why then don't republicans see this happening and then do the smart thing and switch their vote to libertarian? (Hint: you're the ones complaining about a Democrat winning, you could of prevented it) The Moral Majority crowd repeatedly tells the libertarian wing of the GOP to take a hike and/or declares them 'irrelevant', then gets butthurt when enough do to swing the election. But it's not their fault. Or something like that. Heck, I've been told on this board, by a Republican, that since I am Libertarian I should vote Democrat, as the GOP (per that poster,) neither needs nor wants my vote. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:32:23 AM EDT
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Wish the Republicans would get out of the morality business and stick to a smaller-governemtn-with-a-balanced-budget platform. Because that will bring in 2% of the voters and lose 15%? Just a thought. |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 9:32:39 AM EDT
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The Republicans are fucking up the Republican party. Things like what happened with the primary in Mississippi. The Republican party wants to ignore the tea party crowd and the libertarian crowd. The want big government social conservative s and that is a shrinking group. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Let's not carried away here..........I still think the GOP will regain the Senate and retain the House next week. And that is a fuck of a lot better than having the 'tards in control IMHO. |
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