I'm not saying you're wrong, actually you are right but what fun would that be?

Even in a skinny knows what's up.

 

Merriam-Webster defines hate as:








 

A good read, and spot on.

Dictionaries disagree with you.

Your avatar frustrates me. It's like that gif of the fat chick pulling up her shirt and right as her tits are about to pop out Jesus comes up and says 'nope'.

He's having an orgasm of elitism. Don't go and bust his bubble.

I know.... it sucks doesn't it? I consider it a testament to the absurdity of the avatar rules.

In MY opinion, the militarization of police is a necessity at this point in time. I'll do the usual preface...I have several LEO friends, work out with several LEO, and live within one house of six LEO. I treat most as if they were my brothers. I come from a legacy family of fire fighters as well. There has been a large advancement of citizen based arms as well as a new level of threat from what has now been labeled as "terrorists". In 1900, the normal population had a 22, a 12g, and possibly a bolt action rifle. Today, any thug can go get FMJ rounds for a semiauto rifle with a drum magazine. People have body armor. People have more restricted access to explosives, yet the threat of harm due to those explosives is greater. Times are bad, and getting worse. Many do not realize that agencies are getting MRAPs and Humvees due to surplus/loan rather than their actual need of a mine resistant vehicle, and target the agencies for this. Most here are not that blind.

As stated before, I do not think that the equipment is a main issue with LEOs as a whole. It is with the dickhead cop that almost everyone has had a run in with. It is with the tactics used. It is with the overall attitude portrayed by agencies. All of this goes back to the "bad times" we are currently in. It has to do with the new type of threat to society. It has to do with the new overall ignorance of the presumption of innocence as well. This will draw faces, but it also has to do with the economy.  

Police used to do just that...police. Walk door to door, drive around and spotlight yards, etc. They were friends with citizens, and worked with the public to get things done.  Officers are servants of the public, yet many act as if the citizens are beneath them. Many police officers now treat everyone as if they are guilty. Last time I was pulled over (for changing lanes without a signal), I was handcuffed and placed in the back of a car. Car "positive" by dog search, so they tore my truck apart. I drive a new 4x4 pickup, was in a good part of town, and this was at 2030 on a Friday. I was treated like a criminal for no reason, had a handgun pointed at me by an undertrained officer with his finger on the trigger, and my wife was forced to stand in 25deg weather on the hood of a car for an hour with a dress only.

Without hesitance or weariness, I would assume that more cops would be put in desperate situations....there are a ton of bad guys out there who want to hurt them. Yet I would also assume that remarkably less than 1% of the citizens they interact with are "bad guys".  Training has to change. As much as they focus on situations that go awry, they need to train more on public relations and ethics. Period. You train for what you encounter. Weapons are used as a final effort yet are becoming a primary tool as evidenced by many recent events.

Traffic officers, on the other hand, have zero respect from myself. I feel that they are a misuse of resources. They generally have been the worst to me, and I feel that their daily activities are useless and have nothing to add to society. I watch a state trooper shoot radar every day hiding under a sign on my way to work, yet on the way I go through an intersection that is run constantly, is the host to MVAs almost daily, and I have called in personally many times. Writing a ticket to someone going 5mph over while other cops serve warrants to dangerous and violent offenders is embarrassing. I would assume that real LEO do not respect the traffic enforcement officers as well, as one "bust" a year (if they make that) accounts for 0.00001% of the total narcotics being driven.

On to the pay- two of the top ten I graduated with are now in law enforcement of some kind. They did it to get federal jobs later on. But LEO pay is low around here. Obviously you draw people with less respect for their jobs, less education, and people that have been turned down for other jobs/college. It sucks, and is not true to all LEO, but happens to be the norm here. I won't forget quotas as well, because that is an issue as well. Less pay/worse economy also adds to the stress of the already stressful job and increases tempers and violence.

#freetheARFtits

Lots of people are murdered every day because other people feel strong enmical feelings towards them (hate). Hell 60% of murders in this country are between rival drug gangs who have strong feelings of dislike. You could say most genocides are fed by strong feelings of dislike. what the hell man.

Someone can post about a bad experience with any other job field and not much happens.  Post about a bad experience with LE and you'll most likely get called a liar, criminal, and drug user.

I get it though, you're special.

Try harder.

You are the one that said, and I quote, "hate is a word with a very specific defintion." (That's your misspelling of definition, not mine)

You quitter.

tl,dr

its  called force shaping

For fucks sake

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hate

1

a:  intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury

b:  extreme dislike or antipathy :  loathing

So do other site staff get time outs or warnings for troll threads? Just looking to see if all animals are equal.

 


 

I wish you would have been my arresting officer in Chesterfield when I was 19 and had beer. You so should have gotten that gig.

Both. Words like intense and extreme when used to describe words like hostility and antipathy means stuff. To me those words evoke images of genocide and war.

Not reading through the whole thread, but this article is bullshit.



Get back to me when I can own newly manufactured MGs.

Especially when one could be a unlabeled mod who is trying to push the throttle himself to get a ban on somebody.

They'd be better served running as Bambalances for the poor fucking EMT's that get to go into the ghetto to try to save Ray Ray after he got shot during a riot.

Good read. Thank you for posting that Striker.

Now I'm off to read the 13 pages of this thread....

Shit, I didn't realize I was so involved until looking back at it.

TL,DR- Cops have to have heavier equipment and more violent tactics r/t the shitty times we live in, but need to have more training in public relations and less in show of force. Traffic cops are not in the general description of cops and overall suck in my opinion. Most cops are good, the asshole ones make most people hate them.

Actually, that is a fucking brilliant idea.

You are proving the point underlined as we speak. The irony is palpable.

Or do you need a hurt feelings report?

Never been inside one, but the interior looks like it would be a bit small for patients+EMTs+equipment....

I know it. It was mine. lol

They had no desire to hire me.

I've seen inside one. It would be just fine gutted out.

ETA Ambulances themselves are tight quarters. Really tight.

The biggest problem I'm seeing is the can't say NO attitude with many agencies. They try to do everything for everyone who calls and end up being hired harassers instead of focusing on the core criminal issues.

Bummer...

I just visualised  ND1 making you walk outside.....

I hereby award you an extra point for the word "palpable".

They won't hire anyone now who isn't <25 years of age, and preferably with .mil experience. They have transformed into something that would be a great topic pertaining to this thread.

Before anyone calls BS on me, of course that isn't their "policy," but as someone deeply acquainted with the Chesterfield County Sheriffs Department, I'm telling you the God's honest truth about who they want and target.

In case I wasn't clear enough, Extorris and I are talking about the PD, not Sheriffs Dept. We have both, as does Henrico County.

Lots of butthurt in here.

Exactly.  Ironically, the OP is from Canada where gun laws are far more draconian than any state in the U.S. and he has no problem enforcing those.  

Lots of people not appreciating the irony of the whole situation.



 

And a ton of laughs.

Exactly.  This is the same "just following orders" excuse.  

I've been in a few and remove the seats in back and make some modifications, it actually might work. We're not talking about "full court press," but rather "scoop and go" for a single patient in a hazardous area.

Well I wouldn't go outside now. Fucking crazy ass storm, I'm waiting for my power to go out.

Hell I have no idea what's going on.





Is there a TL/DR?