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Posted: 10/25/2014 10:33:47 AM EDT
Thoughts on this?  hang with unmotivated fatties you become an unmotivated fatty.

Hang with motivated fit people, you become a motivated fit person..

I know that in my case there is some truth to this statement.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:35:33 AM EDT
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"Judged by the company you keep".

Yes, I believe it is true.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:36:02 AM EDT
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you are a product of your environment
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:38:12 AM EDT
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"Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas."
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:40:00 AM EDT
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It's contiguous.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:40:18 AM EDT
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Thoughts on this?  hang with unmotivated fatties you become an unmotivated fatty.

Hang with motivated fit people, you become a motivated fit person..

I know that in my case there is some truth to this statement.
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True.

 If you want an approximation of a man's character, look at and assess his friends.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:41:34 AM EDT
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Keep in mind that the average American spends more time with his or her fellow workers than with their family and friends
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:41:45 AM EDT
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On the bottom words are shallow.

On the surface talk is cheap.

You can only judge the distance by the company you keep.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:42:35 AM EDT
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Hang with motivated fit people, you become a motivated fit person..

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Absolutely true, IME.

Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:42:40 AM EDT
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True.

 If you want an approximation of a man's character, look at and assess his friends.
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Thoughts on this?  hang with unmotivated fatties you become an unmotivated fatty.

Hang with motivated fit people, you become a motivated fit person..

I know that in my case there is some truth to this statement.


True.

 If you want an approximation of a man's character, look at and assess his friends.

I read that as "look at the asses of his friends."
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:42:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:45:02 AM EDT
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To an extant, yes. I think it's more of an effect on certain aspects of your personality yhan it is a determining factor for it.

For instance, if you're straight but have a gay friend I don't think that you'll suddenly acquire a hankering for sucking dick. Unless you had that already and can't deny it any longer.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:45:35 AM EDT
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Somewhat.  We also tend to seek people out like us, those who share hobbies, etc.

It's not so much that hanging out with morbidly obese people makes you fat.....but if you're fat yourself you have more in common with fat people and will more likely associate with them.

If you enjoy marathons or triathalons, you're going to be around a lot of fit people.  If you spend lots of time shooting, you're going to be around a different group than if your hobby was knitting.

A lot like the nature/nuture argument, our friends can shape us and our activities can shape our friends.



Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:50:59 AM EDT
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Your peers dictate your norms.
Think about that while you consider the time your kids sit in front of the TV, which is a surrogate peer.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:51:23 AM EDT
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I was a social butterfly before joining Arfcom. Now I sit in the dark with a shotgun, waiting.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:51:55 AM EDT
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What comes around, goes around.





Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:52:22 AM EDT
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Sociological Fact.

You can't choose your parents/family, but you sure can choose who you associate with.

Sociologically, pretty much all our decisions and behavior are based in large part by our family, community, peers. Consciously and subconsciously, every decision (minor and large) from what to wear that day to who to marry is based in part by "what will my <family/church/friends/community> think?"  I'd say the heaviest part of that would be your peers/friends/associates since that is 100% your choice and you'd likely share the same values, interests, beliefs, etc.

At the end, a good judge of a man's life and his character is to take a look at his pallbearers as he is being laid to rest.


ETA:  This is more succinct and a GREAT point about the power of TV... and you can't say "it doesn't affect me" since BILLIONS are put into advertisement and other sophisticated methods to change our behavior (eg. buy a product or think a certain way..)

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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:54:03 AM EDT
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In my experience there is a lot of truth to it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:54:44 AM EDT
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Unless you are the one with the stronger personality.

They will be motivated by you.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:57:06 AM EDT
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Bad company corrupts good morals
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:57:24 AM EDT
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Somewhat.  We also tend to seek people out like us, those who share hobbies, etc.

It's not so much that hanging out with morbidly obese people makes you fat.....but if you're fat yourself you have more in common with fat people and will more likely associate with them.

If you enjoy marathons or triathalons, you're going to be around a lot of fit people.  If you spend lots of time shooting, you're going to be around a different group than if your hobby was knitting.

A lot like the nature/nuture argument, our friends can shape us and our activities can shape our friends.



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This all hit home for me recently.  At 47, I am now in better shape than i was at 27 (and i was in fairly good shape at that age)..Than I hit a span of 6-8 years where I pretty much did nothing but hang with people who partied, drank, and ate.  Needless to say, I became a fattie.

The past 14 months or so I've been hanging out with people who lead more healthy, active and productive lifestyles and it shows in terms of weight loss and my fitness level.

Last night I was visiting with a few people from that former crowd...fatties who did not change their lifestyle, and as I was looking around at their overall lack of fitness, and the amount of beer they were drinking I just made a mental note to myself that I simply can't put myself in a position where I associate with these guys that often or all my gains will be lost.  It's not that they are bad people, it's just that their interests more or less consist of sitting around and drinking/partying...Something that these days I generally find to be a waste of time. (in other words I would rather be out doing some physical activity).
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:58:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 10:58:57 AM EDT
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On the bottom words are shallow.

On the surface talk is cheap.

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In the eyes of the confessor....



 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:00:13 AM EDT
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Very true. Just as we become what we focus on
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:01:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:04:20 AM EDT
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If you're weak willed / minded, yes, those around you can influence bad behavior, but it can and does work the other way. Think missionaries, and those that tread into darkness bearing light.

Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:04:30 AM EDT
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I completely agree with that and have tried to impress it upon my kids.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:04:50 AM EDT
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Ive always heard "you are an average of the 3 people you spend the most time with"
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:12:07 AM EDT
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After each deployment, I had to shake the profanity habits I picked up in the Army when I returned to my civilian job.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:14:32 AM EDT
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Me too.  Good one!  
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 2:04:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:31:32 PM EDT
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being changed by the people you associate with,yeah weak people do.



 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:33:20 PM EDT
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Not entirely true. Just remember, they're associating with you as well.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:37:29 PM EDT
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Absolutely correct statement.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:42:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:42:46 PM EDT
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Not entirely true. Just remember, they're associating with you as well.
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This.

Jesus is hardly remembered as a dirtbag sinner.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:46:00 PM EDT
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Ah, the old Hegelian dialectic.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:46:31 PM EDT
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My family is originally from Monroe NC, the same last name, same family actually as the department store folks from there. That's a very, very popular saying around there, and here.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:48:30 PM EDT
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It is completely true; the original was "you will be judged by the company you keep."  TRUE
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:48:49 PM EDT
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Everything is dangerous to the butterfly..
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:49:42 PM EDT
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And remember; you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose; but you can't pick your friend's nose.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:51:07 PM EDT
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Not 100% accurate, but more often than not it works out that way.  If you hang with a bunch of similar people, you're likely to pick up their common habits (positive or negative). You're also likely to be judged to be like them (positively or negatively).

Si acostarse con perros....
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:51:30 PM EDT
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No doubt about it in my experience and in those whom I've been in a position to observe.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:52:02 PM EDT
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You attract the type of energy that you put out.  Thus, criminals consort with criminals.  Druggies with other druggies and classy people with other classy people.

No  one hangs around me.  I'm a moody loner.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:53:15 PM EDT
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And contagious...

Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:53:21 PM EDT
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Psychiatrists must all have deep mental problems then
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:55:19 PM EDT
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If you have a brain and use it, you won't wind up mimicking your acquaintances.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:55:59 PM EDT
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Yes, it's true.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:02:28 PM EDT
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When you are mature I don't think it makes a fig of difference.

If I don't care for your actions or just simply the cut of your jib there is no pressure on me to hang with you.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:02:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:12:44 PM EDT
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kind of like the chicken and the egg argument.  Maybe you can look at it as them influencing your lifestyle.  I look at it as you want that lifestyle so you hang that way.  You make your own decisions.
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