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Posted: 10/25/2014 12:05:59 AM EDT
Need a semi auto rifle for brush hunting. Any suggestions?
.308
450 Bushy
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:11:28 AM EDT
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243 plenty of them in the AR and other platforms and the tried and true 30-06 the 7.62x39mm is a good brush round by the way what type of brush are you hunting.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:12:26 AM EDT
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Are you hunting brush or something in the brush?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:17:03 AM EDT
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How many rounds do you think you will need to get off at once . a Gatling gun in 45-70 if you need a lot of firepower.



.50 Beowulf is an impressive round
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:19:30 AM EDT
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450 Bushmaster.  

45-70 guide gun if you feel comfortable with a lever.  

44 mag and 454 casull are also formidable in the shorter lever actions
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:19:37 AM EDT
[#5]
AR10, 14.5 inch bbl, pinned A2 flash hider.
7.62 x 51 NATO, should take care of any brush problems.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:22:05 AM EDT
[#6]
Had great luck with my HK M1S90... Killed more shit quickly than I ever did with a rifle in the bush.
AK or a super expensive AR variant, mini-30?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:24:26 AM EDT
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458 socom, best of the big bore AR's

45/70 performance in an AR15
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:32:29 AM EDT
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May I suggest an M-134 as it removes the brush
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:38:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:39:09 AM EDT
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Grab an SKS and go 'inna brush
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:39:45 AM EDT
[#11]
M1A scout.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:40:07 AM EDT
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Hunting brush. Lol

Hunting deers n bears. AR15 would do I guess.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:42:06 AM EDT
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Ya, but they never kilt anything with that in the movie.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:47:16 AM EDT
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Bush.

You mean bush.

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Brush is like thick woods and bush is like hunting inside a cedar bush.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:48:13 AM EDT
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Ya, but they never kilt anything with that in the movie.
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May I suggest an M-134 as it removes the brush

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Ya, but they never kilt anything with that in the movie.


Sure they did!



Blain got a few hombre's with it



 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:52:29 AM EDT
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M1 Carbine. Its a bit small, but i think it would work perfect. My uncle took his best deer with one. Im gonna take my m1 carbine and garand out this deer season.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:53:50 AM EDT
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The 6.8 works fairly well for this.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:54:19 AM EDT
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M1 Carbine. Its a bit small, but i think it would work perfect. My uncle took his best deer with one. Im gonna take my m1 carbine and garand out this deer season.
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Not for bear.

 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:56:54 AM EDT
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Springfield Armory SOCOM 16.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:00:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:16:39 AM EDT
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Is 9lbs heavy? I don't have noodley appendages so the weight feels fine to me.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:20:45 AM EDT
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That's beautiful!!
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:35:28 AM EDT
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M1A scout.
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Before Springfield put the forward scope mount on that rifle, it was called the Bush model.

I have one, it is very handy, all the same as the Standard except a shorter barrel and no bayonet lug.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:39:49 AM EDT
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G3K
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 2:29:29 AM EDT
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A guy I know had and M1 carbine bored out to a 45 Win Amag,it`s bad ass.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 4:48:27 AM EDT
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Hunting in brush can also scratch and mar your gun, so I wouldn't choose anything too fancy or pricey.

I suggest a .44mag.  out of a carbine bbl, you can get a 240 grain jsp going over 1800 fps.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 5:00:10 AM EDT
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If your hunting 4 leg-ed animals I suggest the remington 7400 It worked for me.I now use a ruger 44 mag auto works good on whitetail and boar up close.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 5:32:09 AM EDT
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I use a 458 socom 14.5" for bear hunting in thick Alaska brush.

ETA - AR that is
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 5:41:29 AM EDT
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Short range with a decent round? SKS.

It's not combat with multiple enemy. Brush hunting normally does not need an optic or crap hanging off the gun. Unless you're wealthy and just want to show off.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:44:54 AM EDT
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HK sl7 is what you are looking for. 10 shot semi auto in .308 the size of a SKS.


Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:51:35 AM EDT
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I'll second the Remington 7600 (or 7400 if you want to pump) I have a friend who he and his dad have hunted with those series of rifles all their lives, taken MANY deer with them. I believe theirs are 30-06.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:54:49 AM EDT
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Ruger Deerslayer Carbine in .44 mag.

I killed a shit ton of deer with one.

I think this is one of the more modern ones that uses a mag instead being tube fed.

Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:11:40 AM EDT
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Remington 7400 carbine in 30-06. 18" barrel. A lot of people up here use them. Mine wears a low mounted Leupold 2-7
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:20:34 AM EDT
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Why does it have to be semi auto?









Mossberg MVP Patrol 308 bolt action







I have the 5.56 version


























 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:22:55 AM EDT
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CMP mixmaster garand + schuffs tanker




And in before the purist try to burn me at the stake because I weigh the same as a duck
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:27:43 AM EDT
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CMP mixmaster garand + schuffs tanker
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One slight improvement.


Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:28:03 AM EDT
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Ruger 44 Mag carbine.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:34:31 AM EDT
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CMP mixmaster garand + schuffs tanker
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And in before the purist try to burn me at the stake because I way the same as a duck


One slight improvement.


http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3885&mode=view





I had this crazy idea to build one in 338 Win mag. Use a tight twist barrel and 300gn VLDs from a 16.5" barrel and re engineered and re calibrated sights, and an aim point with the appropriate zero

who says a brush gun can't be accurate at 300yds

The hard part is getting someone to make the barrel
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:41:43 AM EDT
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I had this crazy idea to build one in 338 Win mag. Use a tight twist barrel and 300gn VLDs from a 16.5" barrel and re engineered and re calibrated sights, and an aim point with the appropriate zero

who says a brush gun can't be accurate at 300yds

The hard part is getting someone to make the barrel
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Yeeeaaah, might have to get a barrel blank and hire a gunsmith or other competent machinist to contour and cut it for you.


For some reason I have the desire to use a garand receiver as a starting point for building essentially a stretched M-14 in .300 WinMag or somesuch.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:43:17 AM EDT
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Just get an AK--30rds of 154gr soft point is pretty formidable.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:48:48 AM EDT
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slick rifle.
did you lose your sidearm?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:57:48 AM EDT
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FN FNAR? Have one and so far so good. Survived a fall on a muddy river bank (with me on it), gaining some "character" (scratches), and then took a nice boar in it's first season of use (so far).
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:58:48 AM EDT
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458 socom, best of the big bore AR's



45/70 performance in an AR15
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this



Ive used mine specifically for brush/big game.



405 SPs are hammers



 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:01:05 AM EDT
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heavy, poor ergos, open breach/bolt tends to accumulative dirt/grass/tree parts/water very easily.



It also sucks if you any kind of optic



very poor choice





 
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:01:54 AM EDT
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slick rifle.
did you lose your sidearm?
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CMP mixmaster garand + schuffs tanker
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And in before the purist try to burn me at the stake because I weigh the same as a duck


slick rifle.
did you lose your sidearm?


That's not me, it's Steve Fisher.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:04:41 AM EDT
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heavy, poor ergos, open breach/bolt tends to accumulative dirt/grass/tree parts/water very easily.

It also sucks if you any kind of optic

very poor choice

 
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heavy, poor ergos, open breach/bolt tends to accumulative dirt/grass/tree parts/water very easily.

It also sucks if you any kind of optic

very poor choice

 



What is "poor ergos"?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:16:07 AM EDT
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Remington 7400 carbine in 30-06. 18" barrel. A lot of people up here use them. Mine wears a low mounted Leupold 2-7
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I would love to have one of those. I see lots of rifles (22" barrel) for sale on the local gun forums and facebook groups in the $375 - $400 range, but no carbines.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:22:43 AM EDT
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The 742 and 7400's are also known as the "jam-o-matic."  I might would use it for a boat paddle but surely not if my life depended on it because of a bear or large animal near me in the brush.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:24:04 AM EDT
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My father in law hunted in the brush (WV mountains, Greenbrier County) for many years with a Rem. 742 in 30.06 with a Redfield 4X scope.

Before that it was a Rem. Model 81 in .35 Remington.

No shots farther than 50 to 80 yds. and some less than that (he had a unique hunting style, in my experience).

For that distance the 7.62X39 would be a good round.  I'd take my SIG 556R with me if I was trying to do what he used to do.

If they still make it in the new models, Remington used to make a carbine model of the 742.

That short barreled M1A looks good, but you'd need to build up to carrying it.  I deer hunted with my M1A and I never thought it was heavy.  But, I was in my mid to late 20's and used hunting/walking before deer season came in and the M1A was only about 3 lbs. heavier than my shotgun, so it was no big deal.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 8:52:07 AM EDT
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I would think about it differently. IMO... You need to define the range of projectile weight for the intended purpose ?
For me a brush gun means the best calliber suited for the least deflection at say 100 yards or less. Nothing less than 200 grains. Having said that plenty of people that hunt places like Alaska and Africa will tell you 200gr .338WM gets some pretty bad deflection also.
So now we have arrived at a possible base minimum. Now. What is available from 200gr's up in a semi auto. A whole bunch of rounds !
Now at what cost and ease of acquisition. If you do not care about cost or how difficult the round is to acquire then .458 socom is hard not to consider. I would say next would be .450 Bushmaster. Both should perform the role well.
.338WM, .338LM with the heaviest projectiles you have pretty good brush charisitcs however the bullet styles mostly associated are deflection magnets. Short, more blunt, rounded projectiles work better in mitigating deflection.
If you accept lever and bolt guns then you have several other choices.
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