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Half the people I know, including LE, drink while driving. While....being the key word. ETA: what now, brodozer cop J75player???? |
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If you are under the BAC limit, you are under the BAC limit.
Of course, it makes it easier to spill good beer. Also, you would have to be willing to submit to a BAC test if you were pulled over, as that would clearly be PC. |
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I don't know about it being illegal, but it is just a plain bad old idea to be drinking, eating, texting, talking on phones and all that while driving. Even if not drunk it can distract your driving if you are drinking and it can place you in the position where you can harm others. View Quote I read an article about germans and driving. They take that shit seriously and consider driving a full attention job and are blown away Americans even drink coffee or soda when driving. Article said they had like a third of the deaths we had from driving per capita. |
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If one can drink a beer, and get into a car, one should be able to drink the beer in a car.
That's my thought process on this. I'm not talking about over drinking in either circumstance, but I can't fathom a reason to not allow drinking in cars, if we allow a person to drink outside of a car, then drive. Seems silly to me. |
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Quoted: If one can drink a beer, and get into a car, one should be able to drink the beer in a car. That's my thought process on this. I'm not talking about over drinking in either circumstance, but I can't fathom a reason to not allow drinking in cars, if we allow a person to drink outside of a car, then drive. Seems silly to me. View Quote You can only have fun with pool noodles in the pool!!! Dammit, its the law!!
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I read an article about germans and driving. They take that shit seriously and consider driving a full attention job and are blown away Americans even drink coffee or soda when driving. Article said they had like a third of the deaths we had from driving per capita. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know about it being illegal, but it is just a plain bad old idea to be drinking, eating, texting, talking on phones and all that while driving. Even if not drunk it can distract your driving if you are drinking and it can place you in the position where you can harm others. I read an article about germans and driving. They take that shit seriously and consider driving a full attention job and are blown away Americans even drink coffee or soda when driving. Article said they had like a third of the deaths we had from driving per capita. That is true. You also have to be 18 to get a license, and have to pay for drivers training to the tune of $1K. Their drivers test, you pay for the examiner to come to your house, and it's around $200. It is pass/fail and petty much any infraction will net you a fail, and you have to pay again. My friends daughter took three shots to pass, that started to get expensive. Japan is similar, they consider every licensed driver to be a professional, it would be like holding every US driver to CDL standards. Mopeds, motorcycles, pedestrians always have the right of way, and you will lose in court 100% of the time if you hit one. After all, you are the professional, right? |
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Quoted: That's, uh, actually how it works in most places. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .08 limit is BS in my opinion. Should be impaired is up to officers discretion That is a terrible idea, lots of room for abuse. That's, uh, actually how it works in most places. |
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Quoted: I read an article about germans and driving. They take that shit seriously and consider driving a full attention job and are blown away Americans even drink coffee or soda when driving. Article said they had like a third of the deaths we had from driving per capita. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't know about it being illegal, but it is just a plain bad old idea to be drinking, eating, texting, talking on phones and all that while driving. Even if not drunk it can distract your driving if you are drinking and it can place you in the position where you can harm others. I read an article about germans and driving. They take that shit seriously and consider driving a full attention job and are blown away Americans even drink coffee or soda when driving. Article said they had like a third of the deaths we had from driving per capita. |
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Drinking and driving should be legal. Driving while intoxicated should be illegal. The reality probably 90% of the population is not responsible enough to drink and drive without getting drunk. This is why we have open container laws. One person screws up in gym class , everyone runs laps.
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As I get older and drink less and less, things like this are a lot less relevant to me. Once upon a time I would have called bullshit on this law, as I was breaking it 6 days a week
Now I can't drink more than 3-4 beers without falling asleep in my recliner |
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If one can drink a beer, and get into a car, one should be able to drink the beer in a car. That's my thought process on this. I'm not talking about over drinking in either circumstance, but I can't fathom a reason to not allow drinking in cars, if we allow a person to drink outside of a car, then drive. Seems silly to me. View Quote I should also be allowed to drink that beer walking down the street. Even safer than doing it while driving. But just wait, someone will be along to explain why that's only okay in New Orleans, and such dangerous behavior can't possibly be allowed in the Northeast. |
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GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm confused! Where is the glass of wine with dinner peeps?? So, let me get this straight - you prefer I have a 16oz beer at the bar. Absorb it 100% on the way home. BUT, not drink a 16oz beer on the way home and absorb 50% of it? No, I don't want you any kind of intoxicated while driving. You should put up a poll... we can compare results. GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. You sound like the light of the party. |
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Half the population is probably already driving around drunk or stoned.
When I was younger (50's,60's,70's) there were drive thru liquor stores everywhere and drivers did a lot of drinking. The driving/drinking laws were changed because people got drunk and killed a lot of people. |
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I wonder how many people who are turning their nose to people who thinks its alright to have a beer, have texted or read/sent emails while driving.
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That's the whole point though... do you *really* think the guy having a beer on the way home has an equal risk of intoxication as the guy leaving the bar? The beer in the car is not the concern.... it is the guy that stopped at the bar for one and left with twelve. My quote, above, is the money shot - it cannot be refuted. It is science. It is safer than driving after wine with dinner View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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EDIT: So, let me get this straight - you prefer I have a 16oz beer at the bar. Absorb it 100% on the way home. BUT, not drink a 16oz beer on the way home and absorb 50% of it? The issue isn't 1 beer, I'm realistic enough to know 1 beer wouldn't cause a problem, it's the fact that with such a law in place people will abuse it and pretty soon 1 beer becomes 1 handle of vodka for some people. I agree with your logic about the absorption, believe me I do, but if such a law existed, do you think the general FSA public can handle that kind of responsibility? That's the whole point though... do you *really* think the guy having a beer on the way home has an equal risk of intoxication as the guy leaving the bar? The beer in the car is not the concern.... it is the guy that stopped at the bar for one and left with twelve. My quote, above, is the money shot - it cannot be refuted. It is science. It is safer than driving after wine with dinner eating food with alcohol mitigates the effect of the drink. science. regardless, you should not even be 50% impaired while operating a vehicle. |
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There you have it. Same philosophy and tactics as the Antigun crowd. Any restriction is welcome if it helps criminalise, demonize, and marginalize the opposition. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm confused! Where is the glass of wine with dinner peeps?? So, let me get this straight - you prefer I have a 16oz beer at the bar. Absorb it 100% on the way home. BUT, not drink a 16oz beer on the way home and absorb 50% of it? No, I don't want you any kind of intoxicated while driving. There you have it. Same philosophy and tactics as the Antigun crowd. Any restriction is welcome if it helps criminalise, demonize, and marginalize the opposition. that is a moronic statement. owning a gun, carrying a gun is NOT inherently dangerous. driving a 5000lb truck down the road with other people IS inherently dangerous. however, drinking while using a gun is inherently dangerous. |
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If one can drink a beer, and get into a car, one should be able to drink the beer in a car. That's my thought process on this. I'm not talking about over drinking in either circumstance, but I can't fathom a reason to not allow drinking in cars, if we allow a person to drink outside of a car, then drive. Seems silly to me. View Quote drinking is legal. drinking and driving a car is not. it is not assumed you will drive a car just because you are drinking. your legal activity becomes illegal when it becomes a hazard to the safety of others. |
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If you can't wait to get home before you pop a beer, you have an alcohol problem
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If drinking is such a vital part of your life that you can't wait until you get home, you have serious problems.
Do people not see addiction in their lives Pure F'in weakness. |
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Fuck drinkers who drive no matter how much they have had.
Fuck 'em in the ass with a splintered 2x4 wrapped in rusty barb wire and dipped in broken glass.
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If you can't wait to get home before you pop a beer, you have an alcohol problem View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
If you can't wait to get home before you pop a beer, you have an alcohol problem If you can't wait to get to the office before you drink coffee, you have a caffeine problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distracted_driving Coffee was the top offender because of its tendency to spill even if in a cup with a travel lid. Approximately 86% of drivers have admitted to eating or drinking while driving. Drinking coffee increases your risk of an accident threefold. It's the third most dangerous behavior, behind phone use and rubbernecking. 5,474 people were killed and 448,000 individuals were injured in motor vehicle crashes involving distracted drivers in 2009 17,941 people died in 2006 in alcohol-related collisions, representing 40% of total traffic deaths in the US. NHTSA states 275,000 were injured in alcohol-related accidents in 2003 So how dangerous is coffee? Should we ban that? |
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Make sure to keep the driver Hydrated.
I worked in the moutains for 7 years and we had a 17mile road that changed to dirt about 4 miles in(single lane) to get to where the camp was(all private). The rules were 2 by dirt and always keep a beer in the drivers hand....holly fuck idk how we didn't all die haha |
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"Look, man, if there's one thing I know, it's how to drive while I'm stoned. It's like you know your perspective's fucked so you just let your hands work the controls as if you were straight."
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Quoted: GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm confused! Where is the glass of wine with dinner peeps?? So, let me get this straight - you prefer I have a 16oz beer at the bar. Absorb it 100% on the way home. BUT, not drink a 16oz beer on the way home and absorb 50% of it? No, I don't want you any kind of intoxicated while driving. You should put up a poll... we can compare results. GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. I hate drunk drivers with a passion, but there is a BIG difference between A beer with a meal at a restaurant, and drunk driving
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If you can't wait until you get home to pop open a beer, you should reconsider popping open a beer at all.
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One of my beefs with Governor Rick Perry. He signed both the Open Container Law and the reduction of the BAC to .08.
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I see plenty of drinking beer while driving out on ranch dirt roads, seems fine as long as you stay there off road.
I am totally against open container on the highway. |
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I'm a drinker, a responsible drinker. My wife and I don't drink and drive. I've tempted fate too many times in the past and have seen the error of my way. I have come to the conclusion that if I can drink responsibly, so can everybody else.
Bottom line.......I don't want drunks driving cars around, while my family is sharing the road with them. They are too precious. OP, if you only have one beer and drive, the chances are that I will never meet you in a head-on collision, and it won't matter what the laws are. Having said that, if you need a beer so bad that you can't wait until you get home, then I probably don't trust you to have just one. You'd probably have a cooler full if there were no legal recourse. |
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Every grown ass man or lesbian woman should be aloud a road beer or two or whatever relaxation method they prefer as long as they do not danger others.
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Quoted: GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. View Quote Your masters have taught you well, to worship at the feet of the God of Safety. |
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I've nearly rear-ended a couple of folks enjoying road joints on the interstate. 45 mph is not a safe speed when prevailing traffic is moving at 70. |
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If you can't wait to get to the office before you drink coffee, you have a caffeine problem. So how dangerous is coffee? Should we ban that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you can't wait to get home before you pop a beer, you have an alcohol problem If you can't wait to get to the office before you drink coffee, you have a caffeine problem. So how dangerous is coffee? Should we ban that? I don't drink coffee, but even if I did I don't care how much YOU want to draw some comparison, I have yet to see someone kill anyone behind the wheel due to coffee consumption. |
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In Florida it's usually <$100 fine for the driver, around $50 for passengers and a noncriminal, nonmoving traffic violation that also adds 3 points to your license. Anybody that wants to do it, does it around here. I'm in a rural county with more miles of dirt roads than paved roads so "sippin'" a beer and "ridin'" dirt roads is a popular past time "'round here", and coincidentally, the basis for exactly 87% of all country music songs.
I think the passenger part should go away but the whole basis for the passenger open container law (in my opinion) is so the driver can't just hand his drink to the passenger to avoid said driver getting a ticket if stopped or whatever. I'm waiting for the new group MACPAT to gain some influence with state legislatures (Mother's Against Cell Phones And Texting). All cell phones, tablets, etc will have to be powered off and locked up or placed out of reach of the driver and/or or any passengers while the vehicle is being operated or has the potential to be operated (keys in the ignition or on one's person). The passenger part will be especially important since they are always shoving their phone in the driver's face saying "OMG Becky, look what Lisa just posted!!!!!" |
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If you can't make the drive home without needing a beer, then you have a drinking problem.
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.08 limit is BS in my opinion. Should be impaired is up to officers discretion View Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd8iNx1gGk |
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I don't drink coffee, but even if I did I don't care how much YOU want to draw some comparison, I have yet to see someone kill anyone behind the wheel due to coffee consumption. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you can't wait to get home before you pop a beer, you have an alcohol problem If you can't wait to get to the office before you drink coffee, you have a caffeine problem. So how dangerous is coffee? Should we ban that? I don't drink coffee, but even if I did I don't care how much YOU want to draw some comparison, I have yet to see someone kill anyone behind the wheel due to coffee consumption. Do you mean based on your personal observation? Or do you mean you've never seen it in the news or something? Because it absolutely does happen. Distracted driving kills nearly 6,000 people a year, and coffee is the third leading cause, behind cell phones and rubbernecking. How about fast food? Loud music? Kids in the back seat? All these things result in some number of fatal collisions. Should we make laws for everything, or should we let people use their own judgment? We already have laws against cell phone use and DUI, yet they remain the two biggest causes of fatal collisions. So why not have laws against drive-thru/takeout food and coffee? If it saves one life... |
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No open container law in CT Passengers can drink, driver can't Va also. https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-323.1 |
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Do you mean based on your personal observation? Or do you mean you've never seen it in the news or something? Because it absolutely does happen. Distracted driving kills nearly 6,000 people a year, and coffee is the third leading cause, behind cell phones and rubbernecking. How about fast food? Loud music? Kids in the back seat? All these things result in some number of fatal collisions. Should we make laws for everything, or should we let people use their own judgment? We already have laws against cell phone use and DUI, yet they remain the two biggest causes of fatal collisions. So why not have laws against drive-thru/takeout food and coffee? If it saves one life... View Quote You're being ridiculous I am talking about coffee impairing someones ability to drive When you can show me that coffee causes impairment of a drivers functioning as alcohol does, we can talk about a need to limit coffee Til then, blaming coffee because the driver reached for a cup of it in the cupholder isn't the coffees fault |
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If you can't wait until you get home to have a beer than you are an alcoholic.
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GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm confused! Where is the glass of wine with dinner peeps?? So, let me get this straight - you prefer I have a 16oz beer at the bar. Absorb it 100% on the way home. BUT, not drink a 16oz beer on the way home and absorb 50% of it? No, I don't want you any kind of intoxicated while driving. You should put up a poll... we can compare results. GD is full of drunk driver apologists who refuse to recognize the threat that they pose "I doubt kill anyone, so no harm no foul!" Sorry, drink and drive, you are a loser who deserves to be locked up. lolwut? |
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