I heard a political ad for Michelle Nunn who is running for Senate here in Georgia where she states she will fight to raise the minimum wage in our State to $10.10 an hour for those hard working families.......

Here are my thoughts on this......

Who in the fuck does she think she is to spout such a flowing stream of mouth diarrhea about a private business owner being bent over the bench of politicians and forced to pay anyone anything. Here is a novel fucking idea: Private business owners own their fucking business and therefore own the fucking jobs they allow others to have for an agreed amount of money. This isn't communist fucking China where you go to work where they fucking assign you, this is the United States of Fucking America. You earn what your dam well worth, or choose to accept.

You might the be the finest fucking fry cook in all the land, hell, maybe you could even win a gold medal at the fucking fry cooks McOlympics, but at the end of the dam day you are just a fucking fry cook.

Who the fuck gave you the right to demand someone pays a person just for having a pulse? What do you think is going to happen to those items, goods, and services you halfwit piece of wasted cells? That's fucking right, they are going to go up in price. So now I have to pay out more of my fucking income that I fucking earned to Waldo the high school drop out meth user? And more money on top of the choking array of taxes you already heap upon our shoulders that will take food out my children's mouths?

If you get elected; which I pray to all that is holy you do not, I give you my solemn vow I will begin the process of becoming a one man business and never have another payroll employee again in my lifetime. You fucking politicians think you own us? Well you can go straight to the bowels of Lucifer's rotten Twinkie filled colon and fuck yourself with a stack of Karl Marx flyers covered in Gorilla Glue and sand.

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and FBHO for good measure.....

10/10

Top notch

Not bad.... 9/10. Needs more words other than fuck. But still a good rant.

I know I keep hammering at the same old rant, but the entitlement mentality is literally killing this country, among other problems. I believe we are fooked and this is one of the main reasons.

tldr csb

Just another tool to get people that are gonna vote dem to the polls.

8/10....Not bad. The big line of fucks lost you a point.

Can you do one on early voting fraud?

Some candidate was preaching this morning about raising Maine's min wage to $10.10  . . . . . Stupid twat hasnt a fucking clue . I didnt catch who she was as Ive been fucking around with my computers and iPhone , but I wish Id caught who was spewing this tripe out of her cock-hole



At least she was getting "booed" by the shows hosts under their breath .

GHRT for the win!

Is Purdue broke? All I see are Nunn ads, makes me want to puke.

 

Minimum wage increases create inflation.

The inflation created out paces the increased wages.

People who earn minimum wage are now poorer because they can buy less.


ERGO....   Democrats want to starve and kill sweet baby children and give them diseases and murder the planet.  


I don't understand the blind hatred and animosity that all democrats carry in their hearts.  Seriously.  What makes a person want to starve children to death?  What sort of cancer do they carry in their soul that they actually worship suffering and misery?

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Wait a few more years as rapid automation of every day jobs radically reduces the number of existing blue-collar service jobs...

I don't know but if Nunn or Carter win we are half a step away from slipping into a liberal cesspool.

I happened to be at an event where Carter was asked to speak for 20 minutes. My ears hurt and my wallet felt lighter just being in the same room as that socialist piece of shit.

Liberals are really good at spending other peoples money and not being subject to the rules, 'cause they're special.

I've heard the Nunn ad several times this morning.  She is pushing $10.10/hr to show respect for hard working people.  Why not $100/hr?  That would be 10x the respect, right?

9/10

-1 point for your misuse of your over you're.

I was once against any change to the minimum wage, but after giving it further consideration I realized some reasonable changes can be made. Any change to the minimum wage needs to occur slowly and methodically to give the markets time to adjust. Sudden and dramatic increases will likely harm smaller businesses. Minimum wage should also adjust to the point where low income people are no longer subsidized or nearly eliminates subsidies, which is probably close to that $10.10 point. This would save the government a lot of money and prevent unnecessary inflation.

I like to remind people where these subsidized wages come from. It is not the large and powerful corporations who routinely take advantage of loopholes/tax evasions. Instead it is the numerous small businesses in America who are actually subsidizing the poor in America. Everyone is being screwed, but not in the way people traditionally assume.

im trying to decide if that will work.... or if the politicals claim its a war on poor people and make it illegal to use robots etc on min wage type jobs. it would not surprise me .

How much do you think a fry cook should be paid?
Does the cook share in the tips at this restaurant?

Trying to figure out if your serious....

So force the private sector to pay more so the government doesn't have to subsidize the poor? What kind of logic is that?

Cause I also failed to notice where you linked the higher minimum wage to a reduced tax rate for that business..... So make private businesses pay more, so more people will be less subsidized but still keep raping businesses on taxes at the same rate?

The logic train is off the tracks for you isn't it?

This minimum wage, fifteen dollars an hour for fast food workers type stuff is just the democrats beating the republicans to another segment of voters. They have got the whole FSA crowd now they are zeroing in the middle class starting at the lowest earners. No republican railing against raising the minimum wage or some mythical amount fast food workers should get is going to get any votes from these people most of whom are just entering the workforce and most importantly the voting force. So keep on saying that's all they are worth, calling them lazy and so on. My guess is they'll remember that shit for quite a long time on election day.

A fry cook should be paid whatever he and the owner agree is fair.

From - $.01 an hour to whatever they decide is fair between the two of them.

How is it my business what that business owner chooses to do or not do?

The market will determine what will need to be paid. If you have ever owned a business you had to make decisions on how to keep employees. It could be money, benefits, days off, flexible schedule...etc.

If you can't keep employees at $3.00 an hour, and you need employees, you might have to raise your pay. Maybe you can't find anyone to do the job at $15 an hour...or $30. How much is an Ebola tester worth?
Let the market work and stop the false values of labor by setting minimums.

He is completely serious
Places like WalMart get away with paying substandard wages because they know any income gaps will be made up with welfare food stamps etc

I never agree with guys like you in these minimum wage threads
Everyones labor is worth a minimum amount, and that amount is set by the gov't and has been for the past 80 years

Well heck, let's give them all $100 an hour and say its from the Republicans then.  

Bullshit.  Complete and utter bullshit.

Serious question: Do you own a business?

Hard working families?  80 hours per week is $40k a year before taxes.  Those fuckers better not be having kids because they CAN"T AFFORD THEM.  

They ( the dems and unions) know damn well fifteen an hour is a long way off for fast food workers they also know damn well their opposition will fight tooth and nail raising the minimum by a penny and they also know how this plays out in front of all the low wage earners. There's a lot more minimum wage earners than there are payers. The cold hard truth is you are going to have to do something for them, they don't give a damn about business owners, or what the price of whatever they are selling is or what the market should determine they make.

 

I disagree, sorry

No but it wouldn't change my answer
Pay a decent wage and charge enough for whatever goods and services you offer to cover those costs

Increases in the minimum wage fuel inflation.  Inflation is bad for the economy, but the gov't loves it because it means a tax increase every year, and one that doesn't have to be voted on.

You're not supposed to be able to live on minimum wage, and in fact you will NEVER be able to live on it.  Why?  Because if the minimum wage is increased, the prices of goods and services provided by minimum wage earners will increase.  This devalues the earnings of the people who don't make minimum wage (i.e. the middle class) and as such shrinks the middle class.  Given that the middle class and small business (the other group that will be hit hardest by this) are the backbone of the economy, this is B A D.

And unicorns piss rainbows and shit skittles my friend.

Come talk to me when you have your money on the line.

I've heard all of that before
The buying power of the minimum wage hasn't even kept up with inflation
Sooner or later it has to go up, and it hasn't gone up a whole lot in recent years at the Federal level, to the point where the states took it in their own hands in some cases to raise it on their own

Trust me, if I knew what restaurant you ran I'd never set foot inside of it knowing how you view your employees as shown in this thread

$0.00 an hour, the true minimum wage.

Raise the minimum wage, Atlas shrugs and says "fuck it, I'm outta here..." and then what will the little bitches of the FSA army do?

I don't run a restaurant.

I'm the VP of one of the top 100 service provider companies in he country in my industry.

I don't have a single minimum wage worker. Not one! In fact we offer full benefits, paid vacations, company cell phones and vehicles. Several incentive plans in addition to regular pay and tons of perks.



But that isn't the point. The point is forcing employers to pay out more per hour for no reason other then a pulse.

No, they're being paid to do a job, and any labor as I stated should have a minimum value set for that work
Adjust the prices you charge to take that cost  into account
Its all great that you pay so well in your opinion. I see lots of threads where the OP claims they pay so well and they just can't figure out why they don't have people knocking down their door to apply
I thought the free market was supposed to fix that by having the guy raise the salary til they did get applicants
Funny how that doesn't happen in the real world

That certainly happens with any business that bases a good deal it's profit model on EBT.

There is even local nursing home chain that guide their low paid employees through the welfare process. They end-up making what anoints to $18.00 a hour after hand-outs.

Business is fully in bed with the .gov dependence culture so I don't cry too many fucking tears when I see a legit wage hike demonstration at Wally World.

What??

I made my point. We are the top in our industry BECAUSE we offer what we offer. I couldn't find anyone for $10 an hour to the job as well the team I have right now.

In fact your response even makes the point, you just cant seem to grasp it.

Funny how it does...

I don't see a whole lot of businesses closing their doors due to a lack of employees..... well, outside of the places driven out of business by unions anyway.

The purpose of a business is:
A. Compensate its employees.
B. Provide goods/services to its customers.

I would say B, and I also believe that time has no inherent value; mine, yours, or anyone else's.  Time may be assigned a particular value based on how it is used and on what is produced.  When people such as yourself contend that everyone deserves a "living wage", what that effectively means is that you're assigning value to a person, rather than to the service they provide.  This is a fallacy.  If someone believes they are worth more than their compensation, they need to find a way to provide a more valuable service or product.

When you walk into a restaurant, to continue the current thread, you're going to pay for a set of goods (food, drink, etc.) and services (the time spent to prepare the meal, serve the meal, cleanup, etc.).  You are not paying for a person, or even for their time.

Again, a person's compensation is between the business owner and the employee, and should be based on the value of their contribution to the business.  If you're not driving equity, you should not expect to be compensated very highly.  If you have a common skill where supply is great, same thing.

Who really thinks like that?  

I think we found a .gov troll blogger.  

ETA: Automation is going to take away most minimum wage jobs in 10-15 years anyway.  

ETA2: I owned a business for 7 years, then sold it.  

I understand that you say you compensate your people well
I wonder if they would agree, but I'll accept your claim at face value

I was pointing out that "the market" doesn't always function the way you claim
It is you who can't grasp what I am saying, and "the market" isn't going to function properly in each and every case.
You want to claim it will, but you have no proof to back up your claim

Here is my personal problem with raising the minimum wage.  I make a good amount past minimum wage, but not enough to consider myself well off.  I get by though.  

If they raise minimum wage it will not effect my pay rate.  I doubt I will get a two dollar an hour raise if they raise the minimum wage by two dollars for example. What will happen is that everything will cost more. My spending power will decrease. So with a minimum wage hike, I will be doing worse.  I hate to sound like a jerk, but I sick of being the dumbass who has to take one for the team.

The answer is both, and as I said, everyones labor has at least a set minimum value
I know I'll disagree with the hardcore free market types here
I'm used to it