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I guess those arfcommers from years back got their wish then when they hoped NYC would have another terrorist attack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see the Islamic apologists are pulling out all the stops to call this something other than it is - terrorism. I guess those arfcommers from years back got their wish then when they hoped NYC would have another terrorist attack. To be an American and hope for a terrorist attack is revolting. To have a terrorist attack and then look for anything possible to call it something else is on the same level IMHO. Especially after reports that ISIS is encouraging attacks like this. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/feds-warn-isis-inspired-threat-against-police-reporters-us-n224826 So it happens in the US and Canada, and the powers that be quickly try to dismiss it as something else. At least the Canadians have called it what it is. If we don't call attacks like these terrorism, then we are way behind on our response. I have been in LE for over 20 years. The politicization of law enforcement has only gotten worse, and the mislabeling of this recent attack is prima facia evidence of it. |
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France24 is reporting he had jihadi ties beyond his rantings on FB. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." Other than, ya know, all the jihadist stuff on his FB page The cop struck in the head is in critical but stable condition. It's interesting that the scum in Canada is considered to have ties with radical Islamist groups because he would visit their websites and had a terrorist friend on Facebook, while the scum in NYC is considered to not have ties with radical Islamist groups even though he did the same shit. And that sir is the difference between government leadership ready to kick some ass VS one that bends over and takes it in the ass. France24 is reporting he had jihadi ties beyond his rantings on FB. http://www.france24.com/en/20141024-hatchet-wielding-attacker-wounds-nyc-police-officers/ |
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Quoted: I think the point is that any non LEO would probably be held liable if we hit someone while defending our self. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Female was in critical condition. Why lie about her injury? I wasn't "lying," I was mistaken. My apologies, the initial report I heard stated she was shot in the leg. I stand corrected. That said, I'm sure the officer who shot her is having a great fucking day. One officer gets a hatchet to the head, another to the arm, he responds and accidentally shoots an innocent bystander. Last I checked, LEO's are human and do make mistakes. This was a bad mistake brought about by a horrific assault. Let's hang him from the Brooklyn Bridge! I think the point is that any non LEO would probably be held liable if we hit someone while defending our self. Go to your local public range... look around. There are reasons why their are bullet holes everywhere including the ceiling behind the shooting stands and it isn't because John Q Civilian decided to put his target there. I see folks that are armed that have no training or skill what so ever period.
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The same day the Canadian PM addressed the nation about the terrorist attacks endured and the the terrorist threats they face, Lurch Kerry-Heinz referred to the attackers in Canada as "radical extremists." Tough to win a war, or even effectively participate in one against an enemy that senior "leadership" refuses to identify or even recognize. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see the Islamic apologists are pulling out all the stops to call this something other than it is - terrorism. The same day the Canadian PM addressed the nation about the terrorist attacks endured and the the terrorist threats they face, Lurch Kerry-Heinz referred to the attackers in Canada as "radical extremists." Tough to win a war, or even effectively participate in one against an enemy that senior "leadership" refuses to identify or even recognize. Exactly my point. Thank you for explaining it so clearly. |
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Everyone in a uniform needs to keep an eye out for these ISIS assholes.
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Quoted: Don't have one, but Bratton held up a pic of it, looks like something you'd buy @ Wally world or HD, blue handle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pics of hatchet? Don't have one, but Bratton held up a pic of it, looks like something you'd buy @ Wally world or HD, blue handle. |
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I see the Islamic apologists are pulling out all the stops to call this something other than it is - terrorism. I guess those arfcommers from years back got their wish then when they hoped NYC would have another terrorist attack. Dam....glad i wasnt around Arfcom back then to read such bullshit... |
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We seem to be lucky that the last string of lone Jihadists are pretty fucking inept. Let's hope it stays that way. View Quote I have been thinking this same thing. Its going to be the ones who have a more solid plan of getting in and out hitting softer targets that will cause some serious fear. That 1 guy locked down Ottawa the other day. How much fear and anxiety is going to be caused when someone who does some serious planning gets away? Someone with some decent pistol skills could probably have walked up to those 4 cops in NY and shot all 4 of them and ran off. Good thing he was an idiot with a hatchet. |
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Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." RLY?! https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15615852115_422bf7f004_b.jpg wtf is the deal with Washington not wanting to admit anything has terrorist ties? Are they scared the vigilantes will come out of the woodwork and start burning down anything related to Islam? Its like a dam ostrich with its head buried in the sand. You cannot set a course of action to deal with a problem until you first admit you have a problem. |
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Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In before the liberals GDers question why so many rounds were necessary. FIFY Personally I don't care how many rounds the NYP shoots, as long as they all perforate a bad guy. Misses in combat increase the probability of your own mortality. Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? |
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They ain't gotta be ept. A $5 hatchet and a willingness to die almost netted two armed city officials. Asymmetric warfare is asymmetric. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We seem to be lucky that the last string of lone Jihadists are pretty fucking inept. Let's hope it stays that way. They ain't gotta be ept. A $5 hatchet and a willingness to die almost netted two armed city officials. Asymmetric warfare is asymmetric. With a piece of pipe, a 40 gallon propane tank, fertilizer, and some rags coated in sodium nitrate the IRA managed to shoot down two British Army helicopters. These lone wolf terrorists could do a hell of a lot of damage if they knew what they were doing. |
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wtf is the deal with Washington not wanting to admit anything has terrorist ties? Are they scared the vigilantes will come out of the woodwork and start burning down anything related to Islam? Its like a dam ostrich with its head buried in the sand. You cannot set a course of action to deal with a problem until you first admit you have a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." RLY?! https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15615852115_422bf7f004_b.jpg wtf is the deal with Washington not wanting to admit anything has terrorist ties? Are they scared the vigilantes will come out of the woodwork and start burning down anything related to Islam? Its like a dam ostrich with its head buried in the sand. You cannot set a course of action to deal with a problem until you first admit you have a problem. No, it's political. |
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I have been thinking this same thing. Its going to be the ones who have a more solid plan of getting in and out hitting softer targets that will cause some serious fear. That 1 guy locked down Ottawa the other day. How much fear and anxiety is going to be caused when someone who does some serious planning gets away? Someone with some decent pistol skills could probably have walked up to those 4 cops in NY and shot all 4 of them and ran off. Good thing he was an idiot with a hatchet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We seem to be lucky that the last string of lone Jihadists are pretty fucking inept. Let's hope it stays that way. I have been thinking this same thing. Its going to be the ones who have a more solid plan of getting in and out hitting softer targets that will cause some serious fear. That 1 guy locked down Ottawa the other day. How much fear and anxiety is going to be caused when someone who does some serious planning gets away? Someone with some decent pistol skills could probably have walked up to those 4 cops in NY and shot all 4 of them and ran off. Good thing he was an idiot with a hatchet. Action will ALWAYS be faster than reaction |
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Everyone in a uniform needs to keep an eye out for these ISIS assholes. View Quote EVERYONE needs to keep an eye out. Especially those in uniform. In the video of the guy with the hatchet I saw the person on the sidewalk turn and look over their shoulder after he ran past them. What would have happened if that person was aware enough to shout a warning to the police? Obviously they knew something was going to happen since they looked back. |
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Other than, ya know, all the jihadist stuff on his FB page View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." Other than, ya know, all the jihadist stuff on his FB page Sr. Law Enforcement Official huh. That builds confidence. |
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Quoted: No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? |
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Quoted: wtf is the deal with Washington not wanting to admit anything has terrorist ties? Are they scared the vigilantes will come out of the woodwork and start burning down anything related to Islam? Its like a dam ostrich with its head buried in the sand. You cannot set a course of action to deal with a problem until you first admit you have a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." RLY?! https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15615852115_422bf7f004_b.jpg wtf is the deal with Washington not wanting to admit anything has terrorist ties? Are they scared the vigilantes will come out of the woodwork and start burning down anything related to Islam? Its like a dam ostrich with its head buried in the sand. You cannot set a course of action to deal with a problem until you first admit you have a problem. Here's why: If he's not a terrorist, then our mighty government didn't fail in protecting us from terrorists. The sheep can go back to sleep, safe in the knowledge that had he been a terrorist he'd have been stopped before he could harm anyone. |
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I disagree, they want bitches and hoes and a lot of material goods. They don't want to martyr themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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snipped The next fertile recruiting ground for radical Jihad is the inner city of America. I can see that happening. I disagree, they want bitches and hoes and a lot of material goods. They don't want to martyr themselves. First of all, not all of them just want that, certainly they do not want it as bad as they hate whitey. Second, Muslims will not start at the point of telling them they have to quit those things. I mean, look at all the rapes occurring in Iraq. In the ISIS view, it is ok to rape non muslim women. You don't think that would go over well among inner city degenerates? Islamists are not as "morally pure" as their piousness makes them sound. |
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Columbia, ha. Yep. Partly explains it. Constant reinforcement of America hate. My neighborhood is crawling with Columbia students. Watch your cornhole head bud. |
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The video shows a fairly wide open street. Not that it matters because four different people managed to not notice the guy running at them with a hatchet. Pointing out that this happened as a result of 1. Our country taking a lackadaisical attitude towards terrorism. 2. NYPD having a lackadaisical attitude towards training and 3. the particular officers having a lackidaisical attitude towards being on patrol is not an expression of a dislike for law enforcement. If anything it is a desire for it to never happen again and a sad commentary on the waste of lives and tax dollars that our failed strategy is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? Like I said, action is always faster than reaction. You can't have cops walking around in a back to back tactical formation with their guns pointed at everyone walking by on the street. I can imagine GD heads exploding just at the thought of it. eta yours and several other members dislike of law enforcement is obvious. Save your bullshit for someone else. |
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Not that it makes it ok, but in all fairness at the Empire State Building the sidewalk is wall to walk people at least 10 people deep..in every direction on both sides of the street. You CANT fire a shot (except maybe into the air) without hitting somebody. The argument can be made that they shouldn't have shot at all given those circumstances, but there is no good backstop in NYC View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As usual I see they managed to take out a bystander. Not really -- in NY they usually take out numerous bystanders. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/nyregion/empire-state-building-shooting.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 From about eight feet away, the officers confronted Mr. Johnson and when he pulled out his gun, they opened fire, shooting a total of 16 rounds. Mr. Johnson was killed and nine bystanders were wounded. Not that it makes it ok, but in all fairness at the Empire State Building the sidewalk is wall to walk people at least 10 people deep..in every direction on both sides of the street. You CANT fire a shot (except maybe into the air) without hitting somebody. The argument can be made that they shouldn't have shot at all given those circumstances, but there is no good backstop in NYC I can think of one or two. |
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No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In before the liberals GDers question why so many rounds were necessary. FIFY Personally I don't care how many rounds the NYP shoots, as long as they all perforate a bad guy. Misses in combat increase the probability of your own mortality. Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? This man has a point. |
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No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In before the liberals GDers question why so many rounds were necessary. FIFY Personally I don't care how many rounds the NYP shoots, as long as they all perforate a bad guy. Misses in combat increase the probability of your own mortality. Do you think it would be okay if a CCWer hit a cop with a stray bullet while shooting in self defense? No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? Oh, he wouldn't, eh? |
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May as well toss a grenade in there to be sure. You can't have that attitude as a law enforcement officer and you know that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No it wouldn't, but he wouldn't be prosecuted if someone was swinging a fucking axe at his head. See the difference there? We can all shoot holes in static pieces of paper that aren't shooting back at you and aren't moving. Someone shooting at you or swinging an axe at your head changes that just a little bit, no? What the fuck is wrong with some of you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Leftists in America only consider it terrorism if the suspects were part of the groups in question. Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc... if it is a lone wolf that happens to be Muslim and was inspired by a call to arms.... nope, not terrorism. Hell, the lone wolf can be in direct communication with a terror group and it sti isn't terrorism because the lone wolf wasn't runded, trained, supplied, and sent over by said group. View Quote Unless it's a right wing group. McVeigh (may he rot in hell) attended a 'militia meeting' so he was portrayed as a typical 'right wing gun nut militia type' by the media. It's whatever pushes their political agenda. |
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Rookie NYPD Officers Overcome Their Training To Survive Axe-Wielding Jihadi
The officers had to overcome an abbreviated NYPD Academy firearms training regimen that is antiquated and unrealistic, along with the absurdly heavy “New York triggers” in their service pistols that are twice as hard to pull as the standard triggers issued to other police departments and civilians in the United States. The heavy triggers make combat accuracy beyond bad-breath distance for the poorly-trained officers even more difficult. The triggers were forced upon officers in lieu of adequate training after the department transitioned from revolvers, only to find officers shooting suspects, bystanders, and themselves because they were never adequate trained at the Academy to grasp Rule Three. View Quote http://bearingarms.com/rookie-nypd-officers-overcome-training-survive-axe-wielding-jihadi/ |
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Breaking news now... "Based on everything authorities have seen so far, there is no indication that Zale Thompson, the man accused of wounding two New York police officers with a hatchet, was tied to any radical Islamist groups, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Friday." Yep - They checked the bad guys wallet and there was no ISIS, official ID card. They wonder why they have no credibility. |
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Eh, that same officer would probably put several rounds in us for trying to exercise our Second Amendment right. In before the liberals question why so many rounds were necessary. View Quote What does your first sentence mean? If you mean the officer "deserves" what happened to him you need to do an edit post haste. Contact me via IM if you wish. |
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Eh, that same officer would probably put several rounds in us for trying to exercise our Second Amendment right. In before the liberals question why so many rounds were necessary. What does your first sentence mean? If you mean the officer "deserves" what happened to him you need to do an edit post haste. Contact me via IM if you wish. I'm sure he'll explain it all away... |
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