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Link Posted: 10/23/2014 1:33:43 AM EDT
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As hinted above, when batteries get more energy dense, man portable electromagnetic projectile launchers will become practical .
(Railguns)
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I guess the closest logical next step will be caseless ammunition.
I have a very concept for that. If it is workable it would revolutionize ammunition.  




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I'm scared
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 1:45:28 AM EDT
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We're poised for an order of magnitude+ increase in battery capacity.

I think this will drive some interesting developments in the field of puttin' holes in things and making things stop working.

Militarily, small, self guided munitions.
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Thank and maybe large rail gun setups....I mean it is not a firearm so the feds can not say shit because you it is not a firearm, not combustion/explosive charge.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 1:46:43 AM EDT
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And how do we do that and when will it happen?
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 1:57:47 AM EDT
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Cartridges that are necked up





Fuck this putting smaller bullets in stuff


Link Posted: 10/23/2014 2:04:18 AM EDT
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And how do we do that and when will it happen?
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And how do we do that and when will it happen?
Magnets. Plus
electricity.

Electromagnets.

We already have electromagnetic rail  "launchers"

Shoulder fired, man portable models will require light weight, energy dense storage batteries.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 2:08:53 AM EDT
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Not for the peasants, of course
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Not for the peasants, of course


Other way around.

I think we're going to see advances in stuff that is easier and easier for "us peasants" to make.   It's sure going that way in nearly everything else of military utility.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 2:10:47 AM EDT
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For the foreseeable future, it's probably going to be more advancements in sights and lights as far as durability, battery life, and weight reduction. Caseless ammo maybe,  but I think propellants will need to evolve. Maybe propellants that burn completely and not leave residue and carbon build up?
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 2:50:48 AM EDT
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I want to see rifle like performance out of a pistol.

I think it could be done with 10mm cases necked down to 223.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 3:06:23 AM EDT
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Yea! Fuck barrel life
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Some new propellant along with a recoil absorption device that enables the shooter to fire a projectile in excess of 4000 fps




Winchester called. They said you're about 79 years late.


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Yea! Fuck barrel life



Live fast, die young.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 3:16:38 AM EDT
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Fin-stabilized discarding-sabot sporting rounds is what I'd like to see.

Thinking of a finned TSX launched at 4500-5000 fps through a smooth bore barrel...ought to be doable, but getting them to shoot where you want would be a real challenge.


Link Posted: 10/23/2014 3:18:00 AM EDT
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Phased plasma rifle in a 40watt range.

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Or pew pew laser :)
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 3:50:54 AM EDT
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For the foreseeable future, it's probably going to be more advancements in sights and lights as far as durability, battery life, and weight reduction. Caseless ammo maybe,  but I think propellants will need to evolve. Maybe propellants that burn completely and not leave residue and carbon build up?
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That sounds like it could be do able..
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 4:55:28 AM EDT
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A wireless HUD unit, the size of current eye-pro. Like google glasses. Think like any FPS game you've ever played, with the crosshair center of screen.

Your rifle will have a laser that is tracked on your HUD so you can fire fairly accurate shots at close to medium range, by using the crosshairs instead of sights. It would also display the range so your just that much quicker when taking a long aimed shot.
Maybe even a round counter, that works off the vibration or muzzle blast of the weapon.

Firearms won't be changing much, as they are completely dependent on their ammunition.
When ammunition changes, so will guns. So until then just gadgets and accessories, are what really are gonna change in the next 20 years.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:20:32 AM EDT
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A wireless HUD unit, the size of current eye-pro. Like google glasses. Think like any FPS game you've ever played, with the crosshair center of screen.

Your rifle will have a laser that is tracked on your HUD so you can fire fairly accurate shots at close to medium range, by using the crosshairs instead of sights. It would also display the range so your just that much quicker when taking a long aimed shot.
Maybe even a round counter, that works off the vibration or muzzle blast of the weapon.

Firearms won't be changing much, as they are completely dependent on their ammunition.
When ammunition changes, so will guns. So until then just gadgets and accessories, are what really are gonna change in the next 20 years.
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Just watch the mind of leftist gun grabbers explode..

When will we have cheap tracking point like Semi Auto .50 Cals?
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:34:38 AM EDT
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The super secret 1911 Glock coming out soon.


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z93/markquimby82/Glock1911A2.jpg


I would consider purchasing this glock
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:37:18 AM EDT
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Complete organic integration of electronics and electro-optics into firearms designs: adjustable electronic triggers, ammo counters, aiming computers, power supplies, tac lights, etc.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:48:22 AM EDT
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Eh normal ammo works just as well and will kill things all the same.
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Not for the peasants, of course


Eh normal ammo works just as well and will kill things all the same.


I used to think Paslode guns were stupid.  One day I found myself dragging a framing gun and hose up a ladder thinking "I wish I had  Paslode."
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 7:51:29 AM EDT
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Liberal resistant finishes.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:56:15 AM EDT
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yeah a HUD in an EOTech with Google Glass coupled with in flight ballistics modification

Just give me a Predator type camo for my AR, so like, it's invisible when the government comes to get it in 2018.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 12:21:03 PM EDT
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I'm gonna have to say caseless ammo with electronic ignition. Metal storm was almost there with the solid state action but reloading is a bitch. A bull pup, caseless, non-mechanical ignition, solid state action that is easily reloadable, accurate, ergonomic, and ambidextrous is the obvious goal. Doubt it will ever all come in one package though.

Edit: add active recoil management, and...
If a sniper can truly read mirage(wind) at distances between himself and the target at various distances by adjusting the parallax, a properly designed and programmed optic (with a rangefinder) should be able to do the same and given the correct load data and previous shot data, an algorithm should be able to calculate a best chance trajectory shot and place an electronic reticle at the correct location within the scope.
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lol
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 12:23:08 PM EDT
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I want to see rifle like performance out of a pistol.

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22TCM
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 12:23:52 PM EDT
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Fin-stabilized discarding-sabot sporting rounds is what I'd like to see.

Thinking of a finned TSX launched at 4500-5000 fps through a smooth bore barrel...ought to be doable, but getting them to shoot where you want would be a real challenge.


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Terminal effects would suck.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 8:51:48 PM EDT
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I was thinking along the lines of the 224 Boz.  But the fuckers took it proprietary and wont share any info or allow any new development of it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2014 9:55:41 PM EDT
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I would consider purchasing this glock
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The super secret 1911 Glock coming out soon.


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I would consider purchasing this glock


Glock in 5.7
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 3:27:06 AM EDT
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yeah a HUD in an EOTech with Google Glass coupled with in flight ballistics modification

Just give me a Predator type camo for my AR, so like, it's invisible when the government comes to get it in 2018.
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In 2018 we will have Ted Cruz in the white House..
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 3:36:17 AM EDT
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Rocket powered arrow shaped projectiles.

It's a new prototype I am currently creating buzz in the market about
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 3:50:45 AM EDT
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Yes but it will actually work.
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I guess the closest logical next step will be caseless ammunition.


Like the H&K G11?


Yes but it will actually work.


The G11 actually did work, contrary to the rumors. Fit for service... Probably not. But it functioned.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 4:32:24 AM EDT
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This is precisely what I came here to say. Existing digital circuitry for fire control.. all that remains is a suitable power source, a compact design, and a convenient way to reload.

Technology will continue to improve and make this concept more reliable as time goes on. Keep in mind that this concept doesn't need to achieve "extreme" velocity like naval rail-guns do; if you could achieve 1500 fps, reliably, it would be sufficient. It wouldn't matter if you fired regular old BB's because this device could conceivably fire as fast (rate of fire, not velocity) as it needed to- it's not a firearm by definition, after all...

That said, regular old firearms still do a pretty awesome job.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 4:34:15 AM EDT
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.224 BOZ

 





Link Posted: 10/24/2014 4:40:07 AM EDT
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An optic that wirelessly connects to Google glasses creating a heads up display without needing to get a conventional sight picture
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Maybe a nano-tech gun implanted in your skull, that fires explosive projectiles, tied into a HUD in your glasses?

Just spit-balling.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 5:14:43 AM EDT
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Been done before.

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 5:22:19 AM EDT
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This is precisely what I came here to say. Existing digital circuitry for fire control.. all that remains is a suitable power source, a compact design, and a convenient way to reload.

Technology will continue to improve and make this concept more reliable as time goes on. Keep in mind that this concept doesn't need to achieve "extreme" velocity like naval rail-guns do; if you could achieve 1500 fps, reliably, it would be sufficient. It wouldn't matter if you fired regular old BB's because this device could conceivably fire as fast (rate of fire, not velocity) as it needed to- it's not a firearm by definition, after all...

That said, regular old firearms still do a pretty awesome job.
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As hinted above, when batteries get more energy dense, man portable electromagnetic projectile launchers will become practical .(Railguns)


This is precisely what I came here to say. Existing digital circuitry for fire control.. all that remains is a suitable power source, a compact design, and a convenient way to reload.

Technology will continue to improve and make this concept more reliable as time goes on. Keep in mind that this concept doesn't need to achieve "extreme" velocity like naval rail-guns do; if you could achieve 1500 fps, reliably, it would be sufficient. It wouldn't matter if you fired regular old BB's because this device could conceivably fire as fast (rate of fire, not velocity) as it needed to- it's not a firearm by definition, after all...

That said, regular old firearms still do a pretty awesome job.


What about laser/energy weapons?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 5:23:35 AM EDT
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I want to see rifle like performance out of a pistol.

I think it could be done with 10mm cases necked down to 223.
.224 BOZ  

http://www.gansguns.com/images/bw33.jpg



Why was this not made?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:37:28 AM EDT
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The next big leap has to come in new types of ammo. Whether that means caseless, electronic rail gun or what, I don't know. What, am I friggin' John Moses Browning?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:00:56 AM EDT
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Semi caseless ammo will be the future.

The case would end just about wheree case head separation occures, the cartidge would then headspace off this, it would use a standard type primer and the new cartidge would use a propellant that will not fire under heat only from the primers pressure eleminating the cook off problem the g11 had. The case head would also help remove some heat from the chamber, less ejection errors will ocure due to the reduced surface area of the case.

The advantages would be less weight, potentially higher performance and lower cost.
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I want to see rifle like performance out of a pistol.

I think it could be done with 10mm cases necked down to 223.
.224 BOZ  

http://www.gansguns.com/images/bw33.jpg



Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:03:03 AM EDT
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Optic with computer bullet drop calculator, windage, etc. for an affordable price. Red dot with dot that moves according to environmental conditions and distance/ballistics.
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Like be TrackingPoint rifle, but cheaper?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:04:40 AM EDT
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Take my money!
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:05:54 AM EDT
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Guns with video camera sights that allow shooting around corners and from behind cover.  I have seen prototypes but nothing as great as it could be.  And yes, it might be nice if it used Google glass or something similar.
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Eraser guns. hell yeah.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:27:39 AM EDT
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That sounds like it could be do able..
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That sounds like it could be do able..

There will always be some residue. Because physics and chemistry and shit. Maybe antimatter?
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Electrically propelled ammo with infrared sensors?



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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:49:03 AM EDT
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.17 Caliber solid copper rounds going 4000fps from a 12 inch barrel
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 9:43:38 AM EDT
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Ok, that made me laugh

 


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Terminal effects would suck.

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Fin-stabilized discarding-sabot sporting rounds is what I'd like to see.



Thinking of a finned TSX launched at 4500-5000 fps through a smooth bore barrel...ought to be doable, but getting them to shoot where you want would be a real challenge.





Terminal effects would suck.

US experimented with this in the 70's

 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 10:21:13 AM EDT
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3d printed parts for guns.

remove a lot of work from the manufacture.

The space-X folks 3d print their rocket engines.

3d printing (not at home) should allow for a lot of new designs to come out, and a reduction in the prices of some components
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