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Posted: 10/21/2014 11:54:16 PM EDT
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Warning SPOILER ALERT Why was Brad Pitt called top and first sergeant when he had an E6 rank on his sleeve? Why did the German soldier let the young guy go at the end? They called him "top" because he wasn't the "bottom". Others called him First Sergeant because they'd never had a Sgt. before. You're welcome. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:04:51 AM EDT
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They called him "top" because he wasn't the "bottom". Others called him First Sergeant because they'd never had a Sgt. before. You're welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Warning SPOILER ALERT Why was Brad Pitt called top and first sergeant when he had an E6 rank on his sleeve? Why did the German soldier let the young guy go at the end? They called him "top" because he wasn't the "bottom". Others called him First Sergeant because they'd never had a Sgt. before. You're welcome. That's one of the wrongest FP I have ever seen. Great job! 
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:14:45 AM EDT
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First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:28:52 AM EDT
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Because they are calling him by his billet.
Nazi was being a dick, and potentially made the kid live with the nightmares of his forced war crime and the ghosts of the blown away crew. Or... was just a young kid too and did his good deed for the day. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:30:08 AM EDT
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I have not seen the movie.
But, it was sometimes the case that units facing high attrition did not have NCO's or officers of the "right" rank for their position. There were a lot of VERY young LTC's and senior NCO's in that war. They may have been trying to suggest that an E6 was the most senior NCO left in the Company. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:31:31 AM EDT
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I have not seen the movie.
But, it was sometimes the case that units facing high attrition did not have NCO's or officers of the "right" rank for their position. There were a lot of VERY young LTC's and senior NCO's in that war. They may have been trying to suggest that an E6 was the most senior NCO left in the Company. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:33:13 AM EDT
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I have not seen the movie.
But, it was sometimes the case that units facing high attrition did not have NCO's or officers of the "right" rank for their position. There were a lot of VERY young LTC's and senior NCO's in that war. They may have been trying to suggest that an E6 was the most senior NCO left in the Company. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:34:40 AM EDT
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Another question--did they have three round bursts in WWII?
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:35:49 AM EDT
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David Ayer said that the SS kid was meant to be only 14 years old so it was a close mirror of Norman's character. The SS kid just wanted to live to see war's end, within a few weeks, because someone has to be around to rebuild.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:46:08 AM EDT
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First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed. So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:52:10 AM EDT
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So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed. So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. Rank was done differently back then. They didn't do E-whatever. It was Grade X, Grade Y, etc. First Sergeant was a billet, not a rank. Pvt, Pfc, Cpl, Sgt, Ssgt, Tsgt, Msgt. (ignoring the Tech ranks) 1sgt and SGM were assigned duties, signified by a device added to the field between chevrons and rockers. Check this out: Hardscrabble Farm page on WW2 rank insignia. Note that 1sgt is depicted at both 3/2 and 3/3 (Technical Sergeant and Master Sergeant) grades, also known as Grade 2 and Grade 1 Enlisted. That's because First Sergeant was a duty position, not tied to rank scale per se. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:59:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed. So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. I'm not sure what the pay increase was. All of the service ranks, and pay scales were changed in 1958 to the E1 to E9 set up we currently use. Regardless, it was an administrative appointment. Depending on the commander, it could be declined, or resigned from with the NCO returned to his former rank. He could also be "fired" and returned to his former rank. In this case, we can assume he went from a Staff Sgt. in command of a tank, as well as probably being the Asst. Plt. commander, to 1st Sgt. still commanding a tank, but with administrative responsibilities, to Plt. commander in a matter of days, or possibly a few weeks. Not likely any longer than that. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:27:49 AM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:29:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:33:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:33:53 AM EDT
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Are you the guy that I've theorized wouldn't like it because it didn't put things on a pedestal like WW2 propaganda movies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Yes! It was much worse than I thought it would be. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:35:47 AM EDT
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What was it? Not enough overt anti war stuff? Too much dirty SS/dirty Nazi stuff? As war movies/action movies go, it was pretty F'n good. Not Oscar material, but it was a quality production with solid acting, although Pena turned his accent on and off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. It was a fucking cartoon! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:36:17 AM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Sure it had 1 or 2 lulls but it was a good movie what did you expect? 
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:38:14 AM EDT
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What was it? Not enough overt anti war stuff? Too much dirty SS/dirty Nazi stuff? As war movies/action movies go, it was pretty F'n good. Not Oscar material, but it was a quality production with solid acting, although Pena turned his accent on and off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. It was a fucking cartoon! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:59:46 AM EDT
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Are you the guy that I've theorized wouldn't like it because it didn't put things on a pedestal like WW2 propaganda movies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. You do know the Tiger battle is propaganda? Two of the Shermans should of easily penetrated the front hull of the Tiger because they had 76mm guns. A flank shot was't needed to destroy the Tiger by the Fury tank. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:04:59 AM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What the fuck ever. Get help. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:15:00 AM EDT
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What do you think of Saving private Ryan? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? Excellent movie ! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:16:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know the Tiger battle is propaganda? Two of the Shermans should of easily penetrated the front hull of the Tiger because they had 76mm guns. A flank shot was't needed to destroy the Tiger by the Fury tank. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. You do know the Tiger battle is propaganda? Two of the Shermans should of easily penetrated the front hull of the Tiger because they had 76mm guns. A flank shot was't needed to destroy the Tiger by the Fury tank.  |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:28:16 AM EDT
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You're right, what a piece of shit movie!
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. You do know the Tiger battle is propaganda? Two of the Shermans should of easily penetrated the front hull of the Tiger because they had 76mm guns. A flank shot was't needed to destroy the Tiger by the Fury tank.
It has some flaws like most movies. PoS movie though? No. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:30:49 AM EDT
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You're right, what a piece of shit movie! Wait! You are military and you don't even know what I'm talking about?
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. You do know the Tiger battle is propaganda? Two of the Shermans should of easily penetrated the front hull of the Tiger because they had 76mm guns. A flank shot was't needed to destroy the Tiger by the Fury tank. Wait! You are military and you don't even know what I'm talking about?
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:42:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has some flaws like most movies. PoS movie though? No. Quote HistoryQuoted: snip It has some flaws like most movies. PoS movie though? No. I thought it was a straight up fucking awesome movie. Reminded me a lot of my truck in Iraq (the banter and weird love/hate not the getting shot the fuck up and dying) |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 3:25:04 AM EDT
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Another question--did they have three round bursts in WWII? I lol'd |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 3:30:36 AM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Wat? |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 3:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent movie ! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? Excellent movie ! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 4:28:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you think of Saving private Ryan? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? I have not seen Fury, but Saving Private Ryan is garbage.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 4:53:26 AM EDT
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I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 11:49:57 AM EDT
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Rank was done differently back then. They didn't do E-whatever. It was Grade X, Grade Y, etc. First Sergeant was a billet, not a rank. Pvt, Pfc, Cpl, Sgt, Ssgt, Tsgt, Msgt. (ignoring the Tech ranks) 1sgt and SGM were assigned duties, signified by a device added to the field between chevrons and rockers. Check this out: Hardscrabble Farm page on WW2 rank insignia. Note that 1sgt is depicted at both 3/2 and 3/3 (Technical Sergeant and Master Sergeant) grades, also known as Grade 2 and Grade 1 Enlisted. That's because First Sergeant was a duty position, not tied to rank scale per se. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed. So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. Rank was done differently back then. They didn't do E-whatever. It was Grade X, Grade Y, etc. First Sergeant was a billet, not a rank. Pvt, Pfc, Cpl, Sgt, Ssgt, Tsgt, Msgt. (ignoring the Tech ranks) 1sgt and SGM were assigned duties, signified by a device added to the field between chevrons and rockers. Check this out: Hardscrabble Farm page on WW2 rank insignia. Note that 1sgt is depicted at both 3/2 and 3/3 (Technical Sergeant and Master Sergeant) grades, also known as Grade 2 and Grade 1 Enlisted. That's because First Sergeant was a duty position, not tied to rank scale per se. When the kid came on the crew I believe he said the Msgt sent him That would be E8 as is first Sergeant |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 11:52:54 AM EDT
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It was an ok movie. I'd give it a 3/5
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Posted: 10/22/2014 11:57:39 AM EDT
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Norman was a coward
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:14:09 PM EDT
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Norman was a coward One does not go from farm to steely eyed killer in eight weeks. It's not so much cowardice as it is the initial rejection of taking the life of other men. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:26:36 PM EDT
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I have not seen Fury, but Saving Private Ryan is garbage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? I have not seen Fury, but Saving Private Ryan is garbage. If you think SRP is garbage you will definitely think FURY is garbage. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:26:36 PM EDT
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I have not seen Fury, but Saving Private Ryan is garbage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. What do you think of Saving private Ryan? I have not seen Fury, but Saving Private Ryan is garbage. If you think SRP is garbage you will definitely think FURY is garbage. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:30:33 PM EDT
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Blood stripes.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:42:58 PM EDT
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My grandfather drove a Sherman in WW2 he was an E6. Defined as Tech Sgt. Specific to tankers. The commander of the tank was known as the idiot in the turret.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:44:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:53:10 PM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Troll master race right here. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:59:41 PM EDT
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One does not go from farm to steely eyed killer in eight weeks. It's not so much cowardice as it is the initial rejection of taking the life of other men. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Norman was a coward One does not go from farm to steely eyed killer in eight weeks. It's not so much cowardice as it is the initial rejection of taking the life of other men. It appeared to me that over time he was coming out of his shell, however, the rest of those guys gave there life to do their job. He chose not to do so. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It appeared to me that over time he was coming out of his shell, however, the rest of those guys gave there life to do their job. He chose not to do so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Norman was a coward One does not go from farm to steely eyed killer in eight weeks. It's not so much cowardice as it is the initial rejection of taking the life of other men. It appeared to me that over time he was coming out of his shell, however, the rest of those guys gave there life to do their job. He chose not to do so. Then at the end was told not to. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:08:26 PM EDT
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Troll master race right here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Troll master race right here. Truth - movie sucked ..lasers and shit everywhere and more kills than john rambo A whole SS regiment with anti tank weapons throws itself against a tank with k98's 
Brad pit starring as brad pit ..Would have rather seen a real actor like Eric Bana.. The rest of the cast did an outstanding job and I saw them as the men they played |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:14:10 PM EDT
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Troll master race right here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Troll master race right here. HEIL HITLER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! low budget shit movie! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:16:38 PM EDT
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Truth - movie sucked ..lasers and shit everywhere and more kills than john rambo A whole SS regiment with anti tank weapons throws itself against a tank with k98's
Brad pit starring as brad pit ..Would have rather seen a real actor like Eric Bana.. The rest of the cast did an outstanding job and I saw them as the men they played Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Troll master race right here. Truth - movie sucked ..lasers and shit everywhere and more kills than john rambo A whole SS regiment with anti tank weapons throws itself against a tank with k98's
Brad pit starring as brad pit ..Would have rather seen a real actor like Eric Bana.. The rest of the cast did an outstanding job and I saw them as the men they played Thank god somebody else see's what I am talking about ! |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:20:09 PM EDT
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I saw the movie yesterday. What a piece of shit ! I could not believe what I was seeing, it was a complete disappointment. If you haven't seen the movie, wait till it plays on TV or Netflix , don't waste your money. Troll master race right here. Truth - movie sucked ..lasers and shit everywhere and more kills than john rambo A whole SS regiment with anti tank weapons throws itself against a tank with k98's
Brad pit starring as brad pit ..Would have rather seen a real actor like Eric Bana.. The rest of the cast did an outstanding job and I saw them as the men they played Thank god somebody else see's what I am talking about ! They had a great idea and opportunity and threw it away with a 2 dimensional actor , shitty weird music at bad intervals and a 30 second tiger tank battle |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:47:52 PM EDT
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My grandfather drove a Sherman in WW2 he was an E6. Defined as Tech Sgt. Specific to tankers. The commander of the tank was known as the idiot in the turret. What division? My grandfather was a Tech 5 in the 5th armored. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:56:48 PM EDT
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When the kid came on the crew I believe he said the Msgt sent him That would be E8 as is first Sergeant Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First Sergeant was an administrative position. Basically, a capable senior NCO or Staff NCO was selected by the CO to be 1st Sgt. The unit War Daddy was serving in was experiencing very high combat casualty rate. He was likely not 1st Sgt very long, and if you were paying attention, he was also appointed as platoon commander by a boot 2Lt company commander. Also, 1st Sgt stripes were probably not a priority in the supply chain. Probably not a priority to put on the uniform since they expected to at least become a casualty, if not killed. So, he went up from E6 to E8? I guess he could have gotten 2 field promotions over the years he was there. But I'm wondering why they didn't change the rank to be at least E7. Rank was done differently back then. They didn't do E-whatever. It was Grade X, Grade Y, etc. First Sergeant was a billet, not a rank. Pvt, Pfc, Cpl, Sgt, Ssgt, Tsgt, Msgt. (ignoring the Tech ranks) 1sgt and SGM were assigned duties, signified by a device added to the field between chevrons and rockers. Check this out: Hardscrabble Farm page on WW2 rank insignia. Note that 1sgt is depicted at both 3/2 and 3/3 (Technical Sergeant and Master Sergeant) grades, also known as Grade 2 and Grade 1 Enlisted. That's because First Sergeant was a duty position, not tied to rank scale per se. When the kid came on the crew I believe he said the Msgt sent him That would be E8 as is first Sergeant Stop. Using. Modern. Rank/grade. For. WW2. Not the same. Grade 1 was Master Sergeant/SGM/1sgt Grade 2 was Technical Sgt/1sgt Grade 3 was Staff Sergeant/T-3 Grade 4 was Sergeant/T-4 Grade 5 was Corporal/Technician-5th Grade 6 was Private First Class Grade 7 was Private That's it. There were no other enlisted basic pay grades. 1sgt or SGM were duties, not pay grades/ranks. T-whatever is the normal rank insignia with a T under the apex of the chevrons. Same pay, but a specialist rank--sort of an enlisted equivalent to Warrants. Useful for giving someone a bump without having to saddle extra responsibility on them, and for recognizing the owner of a specific skill-set. Radiomen, Medics, and the like were promoted to Technician grades fairly regularly. Hell, Bill Mauldin was promoted through the Technician side because he was a Stars & Stripes cartoonist worthy of a pay bump but not an authority bump. |
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