Poll fail. You should be able to select both yes and pie.

She would have to be at least as hot as Dennis Kucinich's wife.

Extremists and absolutists are generally intolerable assholes regardless of their particular political orientation.

Absolutely not.

That said I have dated, and could marry someone who is moderate but slightly left leaning.

This is why there are so many threads in GD that go on and on about how bad women are, why marriage is bad and so on.

Poor choosing. When all you are interested in is the warmest hole to  stick you dick, things go wrong.

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yes, why not

Jesus, who the hell would let their wife tell them what they can and can't have, or how to raise his own child?

I don't think his wife is the problem.

I voted YES because I once did.

NEVER AGAIN!

My wife was a liberal. Not as hardcore as you describe. She is for abortion, but would never have one. She has come a long way in 8yrs.

No way in hell.

I can barely tolerate them as "friends" on Facebook. My blood boils from just seeing an "Obama/Biden" bumper sticker.I can't imagine being married to a Socialist.

Fuck that noise.

My sister is left.  Her husband is right.  They make it work somehow.

Me, no.

 

I wouldn't consider marrying a liberal even for a second.
I don't care if she was beautiful, and rich, and othwise a lot of fun.

Once someone outs themselves as a liberal to me, I avoid them if possible even if it is a casual acquaintance.

Our dating pools are much shallower than yours ;)

Im simply not willing to compromise on certain topics. I had to listen to it before. I have to respect the person i bed and share a life with. I have no respect for liberals.

Of course men are different than women, maybe gay men don't blather on and on like rachael madcow.

Frankly im surprized i found on. The deal clincher was when she had a bigger gun than i did.

Then she fixed her truck herself. {heart}  we hunt stuff together!

Still, two woman under the same roof - it's a lot of estogen.
Lots of "snakes in the head" is how she puts it.

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Nope. Comes down to values which should be similar in a marriage.

What does this mean?

No because I'm sure any hardcore liberal males actually have vaginas and I'm not a lesbian.

Thats another wierd thing ive noticed, the more they follow the liberal ideology, the more violent they are. They have no self control at all and absolutely no tolerance for the freedom or opinions of others. They are like uncontrollable children.

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I think the key part is "obsessed with politics" - I'd rather be with a woman who is superficially liberal but not very involved or concerned with politics than a hard-core conservative woman who is constantly ranting and getting upset about Obama. I've met some sweet, very feminine girls who consider themselves liberal mostly because "awwwww those poor people" but would probably be a great wife. Very empathetic but slightly naive is kinda awesome.

But an extreme-left wing, super feminist, social justice warrior who brings up THE PATRIARCHY and oppression and white privilege and the 1% in every conversation? No fuckin way. I don't even like to talk to those people once they show their true colors (usually within 5 seconds of meeting them).

i can usually tell when a woman is the liberal in the family. the husband is usually squishy like jello and a beta male type..

i don't think he knows.

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love someone that wants to destroy your way of life and enslave your children via taxation?

This is the problem with relationships today. Its not just about fucking.....

I LOL`d

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I think a little coffee came out of my nose.

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He's a pretty good friend and a hell of a worker but since I've known him, he seems like his wife runs the show. He does some fishing every now and then but I think he spends most of his time doing what she wants. It sucks to see a shell of a man that used to be.

You are welcome.

No and I wouldn't want to marry a "hardcore" conservative either.  I prefer people who think for themselves instead of toeing some party line.  Most people have both liberal and conservative leaning beliefs on various topics.

Could I marry a hardcore liberal woman?

No I could not however, a few years back before my current GF I had a "friend with benefits" and she was pretty left. We got along well as long as we didn't talk about politics or current events at all.  

She was a good woman despite our different political leanings but no I could not have married her.

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no but I would hardcore A  married liberal

Ive met a few that were likeable, a few of which were fuckable, but my fear has always been that its genetic.

After 13yrs I walked, then I drove to Jacoby & Meyers paid my $500 & waited the 6mo. Then I had a stern talk with my admin personnel about risk analysis.  



 

The question was "hardcore liberal"

You can be a conservative and still empathize with people. The bad thing about extreme liberal politics is how much it harms people. It makes them helpless, dependent upon others. It makes them poor. Look what its done to black families and other minoritys.

I guess there is a perception that liberal = nice and conservative=mean. Thats not really how i see it.

But thats interesting that those that identify with being conservative do. It might be one of those things that contribute to the poor PR conservatives have and why they are so soundly defeated in elections, even in instances that are absurd. That might be why obama was elected twice and hitlery may be our next president.

I wonder how many people don't identify with any ideology at all, the typical low information voter, yet will mash the button for the democrat because the conservatives they know are assholes.

Just sayin'

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perhaps so.in discussions like this I always think back to this Canadian guy I used to work with. I had called a meeting, actually a weekend work retreat, to get some things done on a large project. The Canadian guy could not stop talking about how horrible the u.s is and what a terrible person w was.

time and time again, I had to tell him to secure the political talk that that was not why we were there. He just could not do it, though. In the end, he simply poop his pants and left in a hurry. Not kidding.

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This is my thinking as well. If my wife applauded the SafeAct I'd walk out right then and there.

Conservatives don't toe a party line. There is no functional conservative party.

Fuck no. I dated a girl that was a little left leaning and it drove me fucking nuts. If you can't rationalize with someone then there isn't going to be much there.

Talking to her was like talking to a stump.

OP, I could NOT stand to be married to a liberal.

I really like my secretary a lot.   She is good looking and very easy to talk to BUT yesterday, when she was talking to me about how wonderful OBAMACARE is, I was smiling but grinding my teeth and I wanted to grab her and shake her.   Of course I never would but ....damn.

How could such an otherwise nice person be such a stupid fucking liberal about OBAMACARE?

i still say that liberalism is form of mental illness.

Are these fucking people hypnotized or something?

I DID!  I'm a country boy from south eastern Ohio and she's from a rich family in D.C. and is politically connected.  Her grandparents and mother are hard-core conservatives and of course she came out left of center.  We talk politics all the time, but never let it get out of hand.  There's a difference between debate and arguing and we've crossed that line in the past, but I think as she gets older and knows better she realizes that she should have to pay for every worthless persons mistakes as well as our own.  Slowly but surely she is moderating.

When we met, she was anti-gun, but now, with some better understanding of firearms, she loves them.  It's funny how ignorance of a topic allows some people to make wholesale decisions.  "Guns can kill people, so that means that all guns will kill people."  She learned safety and responsibility, and now she wants her own.

That is all...

I'd just drop a hint that it's not very professional to be political at work.  Then you won't have to listen to that shit.

I hope you're just joking.  There's not a hard correlation of those behaviors with being liberal/democrat.


You guys are all conflating liberalism with irrationality, and that's just not true.  There are plenty of liberal ideas (equal opportunity and anti-discrimination, free exchange of knowledge/ideas/speech, access to education, the list goes on) which are essential in a free society.  Call it "classical liberalism" if you like, but America was founded on extremely liberal ideals, and this is a very good thing.

Yes, communists and socialists are all fucking idiots, and they have infected the Democratic Party since about 1960 or so (not that the racist fucks running the Dems before them were much better, but at least they weren't commies).  And liberal leadership is generally a bunch of fucksticks (but that's most politicians anyhow).  And people who ride the DNC bandwagon for their own self-interests (i.e. race-baiters, 'community organizers,' radfems, evangelical atheists, etc) tend to be a bunch of assholes that make things worse for everyone else...

But the ideals of liberalism themselves are wholly compatible with, and arguably essential to, the stewardship of a free society.


Now, the problem with actually voting for Democrats/liberals is that the party has been co-opted by the aforementioned fucks.  That's not to say that good people don't still exist, but they generally don't make it to national prominence.  Local governments that are Democrat by default (e.g. Maryland is 70% Democrat, so that's just how it goes.  The primaries are the election for the local government.  Once you understand that, just switch your party affiliation and vote for the Democrat-that's-actually-a-conservative.) still have plenty of good people.

But you're ultimately contributing to the corruption, socialism, and general buttfuckery that the DNC is driving these days, and that's a problem.  There are two justifiable causes for this:  Naivete or excessive optimism and trust.  Lots of people don't care much about politics, and just know to check D if they even vote at all.  Low-information voters, as it were.  I can't really blame someone for this, and everyone is permitted to not care about a few things.  My wife doesn't know shit about cars, doesn't care, and doesn't want to know.  She wants to put fuel in it and drive it, and that's it.  No amount of repetition or teaching on my part is going to change that.  If someone is about politics how my wife is about cars, I really can't consider that a deal-breaker.  Alternatively, excessive trust might be misplaced, but isn't a character flaw.  A lot of people, when politicians tell them they're going to do X, Y, and Z... they believe them.  Depending on how old a person is, that might or might not be a problem.  If you're 24 (the average age for a first marriage for women), and you're trusting enough to take politicians at their word...  eh, that can be overlooked.

I did

Yes.  I primarily care about looks.  She could have the intelligence of an Ape for all I care, as long as she cranks, she cranks, she cranks my tractor.  Obviously if everything else was the same I'd prefer she not be a liberal.  But physical appearance trumps all.

Nope, fundamentally oppositional beliefs probably won't make for an ideal lifelong partnership.

Anti discrimination to liberals requires discrimination against white males.

Conservatives believe in finding the best person for the job/school/team regardless of race or gender. Which is true equal opportunity.

I married a lib, not a hardcore lefty but a nor'easter lib.  Politics rarely comes up.

I won’t give you a fish, but I’ll teach you how to fish for yourself.

A liberal will steal my fish and give it to some lazy dumb ass then take credit for the “gift”.

I was raised by an EXTREMELY conservative mother. Yes cunty. LOL! While she’s got a good message, her delivery is her shortfall. I’ve ended up very libertarian but vote republican due to lack of realistic choice.

There has to be shame for people who won’t provide for themselves before they will interested in learning to fish.

I fed my family and taught them a thing or two along the way.