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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:58:48 PM EDT
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1989 F250. Get out of my way.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:59:32 PM EDT
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Before the first one is on the road there will be a box made that can cause everyone in range to emergency stop for no good reason.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:00:54 PM EDT
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on our way to this
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:01:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Before the first one is on the road there will be a box made that can cause everyone in range to emergency stop for no good reason. DealExtreme will be selling a $20 counterfeit version to clear the road in front of you. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:02:19 PM EDT
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I have more inches of lift than most econo boxes have wheel sizes. Fuck yo car. Get a hacked box and stop libs on train tracks and middle of 4 ways
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:02:37 PM EDT
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And in the name of safety it will only add 4K to the cost of a new vehicle.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:07:02 PM EDT
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Great. Another federal program. What could possibly go wrong? "By warning drivers of imminent danger, V2V technology has the potential to dramatically improve highway safety," said NHTSA Deputy Administrator David Friedman. "V2V technology is ready to move toward implementation and this report highlights the work NHTSA and DOT are doing to bring this technology and its great safety benefits into the nation’s light vehicle fleet." http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/2014/NHTSA-issues-advanced-notice-of-proposed-rulemaking-on-V2V-communications They (manufactures) can't even get the little shit like ignition switches and airbags right. Put that crap on my car and I'm taking wire cutters to it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:11:29 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous.
Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:13:00 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. Do you know how I know you're a communist, liberal? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:13:54 PM EDT
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Sweet! That means if you buy one with this new technology, expect to see your insurance rates drop dramatically, right?
Right??? 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:15:01 PM EDT
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And in the name of safety it will only add 4K to the cost of a new vehicle. Half of which is profit.
Then when the thing starts acting up after the warranty it's going to take an RF engineer with a PhD to figure it out. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:15:15 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:16:43 PM EDT
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Hell, I am ready for cars to drive themselves so I can go out and have some fun.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:17:23 PM EDT
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Before the first one is on the road there will be a box made that can cause everyone in range to emergency stop for no good reason. Yep Or chaos from software or hardware glitches. I like the Top Gear where Clarkson bombs into a parking spot with shrubs around it and the car panic stops. So they try it with Mays car in place of the shrub....BOOM! it didn't stop. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:17:39 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. So you are okay with the associated increase in control this is going to give the government over your life then? And the intrusion into your privacy? Like we don't have enough of that already? Tell you what, how about we just create a society in which the government controls everything, thus making all citizens perfectly safe. It could be a utopia! I mean, you know, what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:18:32 PM EDT
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And in the name of safety it will only add 4K to the cost of a new vehicle. Good share of that will find its way into democrat pockets |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:18:42 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. That is the stupidest shit I've read all year. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:19:20 PM EDT
[#18]
HonkHONK screw your Light Fleet.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:19:35 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. Any concept of the cost burden this will put on Americans? I realize that with the huge surplus of cash that we have the gov is having trouble findng places to spend it, but damn. So, no, for countless reasons that should be obvious, your opinion is wrong and you should feel ashamed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:20:57 PM EDT
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So what happens when rage driving assholes trip peoples warning systems on purpose by swerving at them or whatever?
I'll take automated violation monitoring/ticketing/warrant issuing prevention system for $400 Alex....
Ohhh!!! Daily Double!! "Things that Biometric Identification for Drivers" 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:21:04 PM EDT
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Cars are going to be 1 million a piece for something like a honda civic if this stuff keeps up. All these stupid requirements and "good ideas" they start requiring at the expense of the consumer. More electronics to break also.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:21:48 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. While I think it has the potential to solve major issues. For instance traffic can be prioritized by destination making the road ways carry more cars efficiently. It allows roads to carry more traffic, but at the same time decreasing time stopped in traffic. However, it will never fly. There are too many old cars that won't have it and it will piss off a lot of people who's cars are now not allowed on the roads. I put about 800 miles a week on my work truck driving to job sites. It would be nice to kick back and let the self driving car take me there, but sometimes I just want to drive and be in control. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:24:01 PM EDT
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Before the first one is on the road there will be a box made that can cause everyone in range to emergency stop for no good reason. Or to jam the shit out of it so that it wrecks continuously. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:25:05 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. You deliberately trolling to get people to make a CoC violation towards your stupid ass comments? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:25:26 PM EDT
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if cars become self driving.... will dui still be a crime?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:27:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. Hello, part of the problem. How do you do? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:27:40 PM EDT
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COC violation to you troll. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. COC violation to you troll. He is right about Americans being terrible drivers.....they are on a whole - horrible. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:27:40 PM EDT
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Hell, I am ready for cars to drive themselves so I can go out and have some fun. You may want it but government organizations will hate life when they become common. Look at the "problems" Chicago is having with not enough people getting speed camera tickets then magnify them. Although it would break me heart to see fishing expedition stops get a serious decrease.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:29:05 PM EDT
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LTA warns drivers not to turn left in front of another vehicle traveling in the opposite direction and IMA warns them if it is not safe to enter an intersection due to a high probability of colliding with one or more vehicles. Additional applications could also help drivers avoid imminent danger through forward collision, blind spot, do not pass, and stop light/stop sign warnings. Every-time they "dumb something down" it instantly becomes MORE dangerous due to the "safety bubble" effect most people have. "My car has a left-turn danger indicator! YAY I don't even have to watch for on-coming cars anymore!" |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:31:52 PM EDT
[#30]
From the mouths of the insurance companies to the ears of the DOT.
For safety, of course.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:33:00 PM EDT
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Every-time they "dumb something down" it instantly becomes MORE dangerous due to the "safety bubble" effect most people have. "My car has a left-turn danger indicator! YAY I don't even have to watch for on-coming cars anymore!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
LTA warns drivers not to turn left in front of another vehicle traveling in the opposite direction and IMA warns them if it is not safe to enter an intersection due to a high probability of colliding with one or more vehicles. Additional applications could also help drivers avoid imminent danger through forward collision, blind spot, do not pass, and stop light/stop sign warnings. Every-time they "dumb something down" it instantly becomes MORE dangerous due to the "safety bubble" effect most people have. "My car has a left-turn danger indicator! YAY I don't even have to watch for on-coming cars anymore!" Exactly. On a related note, I get a kick out of how many idiots there are today who are incapable of reading a map, because of GPS. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:35:01 PM EDT
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Exactly. On a related note, I get a kick out of how many idiots there are today who are incapable of reading a map, because of GPS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LTA warns drivers not to turn left in front of another vehicle traveling in the opposite direction and IMA warns them if it is not safe to enter an intersection due to a high probability of colliding with one or more vehicles. Additional applications could also help drivers avoid imminent danger through forward collision, blind spot, do not pass, and stop light/stop sign warnings. Every-time they "dumb something down" it instantly becomes MORE dangerous due to the "safety bubble" effect most people have. "My car has a left-turn danger indicator! YAY I don't even have to watch for on-coming cars anymore!" Exactly. On a related note, I get a kick out of how many idiots there are today who are incapable of reading a map, because of GPS. We are increasingly outsourcing our brains to technology. We are getting dumber as a result. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:40:46 PM EDT
[#33]
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. Probably some middle or upper manager who WONT LET ME WORK AT HOME. Because if all the employees work at home he cant have meetings all day, and would have to wander the empty halls with the 28 other managers. Look at what we save huh? my gas, my time 800 other employees gas, 800 other employees time, ginormous worker building, ginormous worker building electric bill. my car, I wouldn't even own a car if I didn't have to commute to an office 5 days a week. my gas: 2 gal/day x 250 days a year = 500gal all gas: 500gal x 800 employees = 400,000gal of gas a year. Where are the greens on this shit??? Vp sez we won't have 'synergy', cool new ideas. BAH. Last week no one even bothered to talk to me at all. Everytime I have a new idea I get "We cant do that." The NEW VP of Technology simply dictates to everyone, so who the hell needs synergy or new ideas? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:41:29 PM EDT
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. You are aware electronics are not foolproof? I prefer to control my vehicle and get out of the way of an out of control vehicle. No guarantee of that with electronics. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:42:27 PM EDT
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See those boxes along the side of the road collecting telemetry from your vehicle? Don't worry about those citizen, it's for your safety.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:44:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Yeah, and this is why I'll stick to motorcycles.
I don't want a nicely packaged life that is absent risk. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. I'd rather live in a freer country than a safer country. We could probably make the USA safer by house to house sweeps confiscating all firearms also. "Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work punching holes in targets doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out." |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:46:34 PM EDT
[#38]
I have more inches of lift than most econo boxes have wheel sizes.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:46:39 PM EDT
[#39]
The chaos caused by 1 car with a faulty relay is going to be worse than Atlanta 2014.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:46:46 PM EDT
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This is a quote from the notice of proposed rulemaking:
" . By mandating V2V technology in all new vehicles, but not requiring specific safety applications, it is NHTSA’s belief that such capability will in turn facilitate market-driven development and introduction of a variety of safety applications, as well as mobility and environment-related applications that can potentially save drivers both time and fuel. " They want to make it mandatory but not define any particular use. So, who really would benefit? Vehicle-to-vehicle communications is the same as vehicle-to-tracker communications. The car won't know the difference. This isn't much different from having a mandated GPS in the car and even if not stated, is potentially a first step to tracking your driving 'to collect revenue'. I thought LaHood was a whacko statist; Anthony Foxx seems worse. This isn't some self-driving utopia, it's a way to follow you wherever you go. And it's being sold on 'safety' justifying its cost even though there is no requirement for any car maker to add any 'safety' features, just the tracking feature. Hmm. Wonder why that is? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:47:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Cool. Now I can text more when I drive, read the paper, do my hair, paint my toe nails and of course fap furiously.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:49:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryWhat are you attempting to show us? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:49:44 PM EDT
[#43]
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He is right about Americans being terrible drivers.....they are on a whole - horrible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly I love this stuff SO MUCH. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do, its a skill that the majority of the population has to learn out of necessity yet will never ever be good at it, will always be prone to mistakes, and are frankly fucking dangerous. Blah blah blah I want mah freedom, but 9 times out of 10 you're just commuting to work doing the same ol bullshit day in and day out. Yeah there are implications, but people are just too fucking terrible at driving, they're awful, many of you who post in this thread could quite well be fucking awful. Fuck manual driving, automatic, self driving cars as soon as possible and I will be the most peaceful man on earth. COC violation to you troll. He is right about Americans being terrible drivers.....they are on a whole - horrible. So what? The issue is we are a society that tolerates shit heads with multiple DUIs still having a license along with all kinds of other stupid shit. Autobahn rules with autobahn style penalties for people who fuck up. But no, our stupid shit society is too much of a special snowflake to to take peoples licenses away. Nope, instead lets give them to illegal aliens while we are at it. The insurance comapnies would love this technology because it would be the automakers liable more often than not for glitches/accidents. I dont want to be at the mercy of technology, hackers, interference by nanny govt. Why? Because as fucking sad as it sounds, driving is one of the few joys I have left in life right now. Those who want to auto pilot through a commute, fine, put them in the damn trucking lane where they can nap/work/masturbate, just get the fucking entitlement minded prius driving 5-10 under the speed limit mother fuckers out of the fast lane. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:50:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:50:55 PM EDT
[#45]
Great idea. Can't wait to see this, the capabilities have existed for years, this is on the same level as seat belts and air bags.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:53:45 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool. Now I can text more when I drive, read the paper, do my hair, paint my toe nails and of course fap furiously. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:54:31 PM EDT
[#47]
 Skynet
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:55:22 PM EDT
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And in the name of safety it will only add 4K to the cost of a new vehicle. and half will be a hidden tax meant for redistribution |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:58:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet! That means if you buy one with this new technology, expect to see your insurance rates drop dramatically, right? Right??? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:59:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Great, even more shit to put into cars to fail, and even more shit put into cars that reduces the responsibility of the driver to actually fucking DRIVE.
That new Infiniti Q50 commercial really pisses me off. It highlights all the "safety features" of the car that helps the clearly distracted driver get safely home. On the surface, sounds like good technology. But it is really a bandaid for what the true illness is: American drivers are clueless fucking idiots! These "safety features" are not going to make drivers safer, it will actually embolden them to be even MORE distracted. "Shit, I can reply to this text, the car will alert me if I'm drifting", "Gotta get my makeup on, the brake assist will stop the car if this traffic gets worse" and on and on. There is a fine line between technology helping drivers (ABS brakes for example) or making them worse (electronic crutches to compensate for inattentive or poor skill.) But I guess this is to be expected, as our society is speeding headlong into the abyss where personal responsibility completely vanishes..... 
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