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God , we are SO fucked Only if we do not act, most American want to limit and reduce immigration, if we just stop listing to the Neo Cons and tell the leftist to shut up because they hate America, we will be O.K Hell it caused Cantor to lose big, as he should have.. I know. Like I said . . . . We faced worse odds...We can beat this and restore liberty but only if we have the will to act.. |
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How do we limit legal immigration? I know illegal immigration is a issue but since 1965 legal immigration has lead to many negative changes in this nation that if not halted and reversed will destroy it. Do we frame it solely as a economical argument? Or do we bring up the change in causes to our culture, politics and demographics? Why do we have 1,1,000,000 new people coming into this nation when we have so many people under or unemployed? A side from give Democrats more voters.. Not to metion bring with them the failed ideas, and ideologies that made their nations hell on Earth. This PDF and some studies and links really does spell it out... http://www.eagleforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014_ImmigrationBook-6-12-14.pdf How do we get down to 200,000 immigration levels? I mean many Americans really do not want our nation to change for the worst. We need to take the best, and keep out the rest....And no more mass immigration no more then 200,000.....We do think the left loves immigration? They get to import voters who love and have only know big government? http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-23.png http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-24.png http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-23.png http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/2012-phc-identity-24.png http://www.pewforum.org/files/2014/05/latinos-chp9-12.png http://www.pewforum.org/files/2014/05/latinos-chp9-13.png I mean...WOW...If you still believe in the same failed ideas, please stay home in your collapsing 3rd world hellhole.. Not anti Hispanic, just posting numbers on the fasting growing group.. More poverty, lower wages, more government, less freedom. Gum Ball Poverty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE Is their any problem that is not made worse by adding millions of more people? 100,000,000 New Americans.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Why do we need 100,000,000 more people? According to a Harris poll, 81 percent of native-born citizens think the schools should teach students to be proud of being American. proud of being American Only 50 percent of naturalized U.S. citizens do. While 67 percent of native-born Americans believe our Constitution is a higher legal authority than international law, only 37 percent of naturalized citizens agree. No wonder they vote 2-1 for the Democrats. The two largest immigrant groups, Hispanics and Asians, have little in common economically, culturally or historically. But they both overwhelmingly [url=http://www.vdare.com/articles/population-paradoxes-a-post-anglo-america-might-vote-for-big-government-but-couldnt-afford-?page=6] support big government,[/url=Obamacare,http://www.vdare.com/articles/anti-model-minority-leftists-inventing-an-anti-white-pan-asian-identity] affirmative action[/url] and gun control Also surprising, a Pew Research Center poll of all Hispanics, immigrant and citizen alike, found that Hispanics take a dimmer view of capitalism than even people who describe themselves as "liberal Democrats." While 47 percent of self-described "liberal Democrats" hold a negative view of capitalism, 55 percent of Hispanics do. Pew also found that only 27 percent of Hispanics support gun rights, compared to 57 percent of non-Hispanic whites. According to large majorities of Hispanics favor a national database of gun owners, limiting the capacity of magazines and a ban on semiautomatic weapons. Seventy-five percent of Hispanic immigrants and 55 percent of Asian immigrants support bigger government—also according to Pew. Even after three generations in America, Hispanics still support bigger government 55 percent to 36 percent, compared to the general public, which opposes bigger government 48 percent to 41 percent. How are Conservatives Republicans' going to square that circle? It's not their position on amnesty that immigrants don't like; it's Conservatives Republicans' support for small government, gun rights, patriotism, the Constitution and capitalism. Reading these statistics, does anyone wonder why Democrats think vastly increasing immigration should be the nation's No. 1 priority? They have to import millions of voters to stack the deck, so they can "Cast ballots Americans are not willing to cost, to elect candidates Americans are not willing to elect, to support leftist ideologies Americans overwhelming reject" It would be one thing if the people with these views already lived here. Republicans would have no right to say, "You can't vote." But why on Earth are they bringing in people sworn to their political destruction? Republicans have no obligation to assist the Democrats as they change the country in a way that favors them electorally, particularly when it does great harm to the people already here. Yes, it's great for the most powerful Americans to have lots of cheap, unskilled labor. Immigration definitely solves the rich's "servant problem." (Approximately 5 million times a day, MSNBC expresses bewilderment that any Republicans oppose amnesty when it's supported by the Chamber of Commerce. Wow! So even people who profit by flooding the country with cheap labor are in favor of flooding the country with cheap labor!) It's terrific for ethnic lobbyists whose political clout will skyrocket the more foreign-born Americans we have. And it's fantastic for the Democrats, who are well on their way to a permanent majority, so they can completely destroy the last remnants of what was once known as "the land of the free." The only ones opposed to our current immigration policies are the people. We are seeing how badly it has effected this nation and we are taking action to stop it. Look what they did to California in less then a decade America should be and remain America and not degenerate into a 3rd world leftist slum. So how do we make the case airtight? For those that say it can be done, we have done fought greatest threats and won, hell it took our Eric Cantor in his primary. Let`s Defend Our Liberty Let`s Defend Our Freedom Let`s Defend Our Future Let`s Defend Our Culture Let`s Defend Our Values Let`s Defend Our Constitution Let`s Defend Our Way and Stranded of Life Let`s Defend America as America IS and as America SHOULD BE! What ideas and plans do you guys have in stock..When you need help solving a problem surely the minds at AR15.com know. View Quote End the wefare state. End chain migration, End birthright citizenship, Don't acceot everyone from everywhere, only from countires that are sending us people we need. and if you don't have something we need you don't get in. and for all those who do 6 mo Quantetine (on YOUR DIME). I |
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Mine (on one side) had the good sense to come on a boat in the late 1600s......Too damn far (and wet) to walk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Even if you're "Native American", common theory is that your ancestors came from Eurasia over a land bridge. If you're European, FFS, your ancestors came on a boat or even a plane and it wasn't that long ago. Not sure how much history you've read, but people were saying the exact same thing about the Irish, Italian, and pretty much all other immigrants in previous generations. Mine (on one side) had the good sense to come on a boat in the late 1600s......Too damn far (and wet) to walk. Mine, on both sides came over here in the 1840's. What makes the current immigration problem bad is the fact that the group is not coming here for freedom, but for a handout. |
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Remain open to those who want to come into this country to better themselves by becoming hard-working, tax-paying Americans who speak English.
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We stop the coddling and give aways.
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The problem is immigration from barbarian lands A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is immigration from barbarian lands A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one Does that mean you are leaving? As a nation of immigrants there should be no problem with legal immigration. Who we let in should be strictly controlled based on needed skills. Teachers? We have a 300,000 teacher surplus so we don't need more teachers. We have a shortage of doctors so let qualified doctors in. The bigger problem is many other nations are producing better educated graduates than we are so we are in essence screwing ourselves by coddling mediocrity. Keep producing stupid and we will keep needing more immigrants. Notice how we can't export our dropouts and unemployed? Nobody except ISIS and the Libs want them. |
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Does that mean you are leaving? As a nation of immigrants there should be no problem with legal immigration. Who we let in should be strictly controlled based on needed skills. Teachers? We have a 300,000 teacher surplus so we don't need more teachers. We have a shortage of doctors so let qualified doctors in. The bigger problem is many other nations are producing better educated graduates than we are so we are in essence screwing ourselves by coddling mediocrity. Keep producing stupid and we will keep needing more immigrants. Notice how we can't export our dropouts and unemployed? Nobody except ISIS and the Libs want them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is immigration from barbarian lands A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one Does that mean you are leaving? As a nation of immigrants there should be no problem with legal immigration. Who we let in should be strictly controlled based on needed skills. Teachers? We have a 300,000 teacher surplus so we don't need more teachers. We have a shortage of doctors so let qualified doctors in. The bigger problem is many other nations are producing better educated graduates than we are so we are in essence screwing ourselves by coddling mediocrity. Keep producing stupid and we will keep needing more immigrants. Notice how we can't export our dropouts and unemployed? Nobody except ISIS and the Libs want them. Close the borders and all that mediocrity works itself out. USA has gotten fat and lazy. |
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Cut food stamps/EBT cards - make so only tax payers can vote and make everybody pay their taxes accordingly.
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Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is to much of both! The solution for legal immigration is have it based off the US jobless rate, only allow legal immigration when the US jobless rate falls below, say 4% forcing American employers to invest in and hire Americans rather invest in and import from abroad hand over fist.. |
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How do we end mass immigration?
Have a mass Ebola pandemic. They'll be fleeing our country in droves. |
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The problem is to much of both! The solution for legal immigration is have it based off the US jobless rate, only allow legal immigration when the US jobless rate falls below, say 4% forcing American employers to invest in and hire Americans rather invest in and import from abroad hand over fist.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is to much of both! The solution for legal immigration is have it based off the US jobless rate, only allow legal immigration when the US jobless rate falls below, say 4% forcing American employers to invest in and hire Americans rather invest in and import from abroad hand over fist.. What about those jobs no one wants to do? Like doctors... |
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They'll keep coming until the United States is just as crappy as the countries they left. Then some will go back. There is no political will in either party to stop the hispanic transformation of the US.
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Does that mean you are leaving? As a nation of immigrants there should be no problem with legal immigration. Who we let in should be strictly controlled based on needed skills. Teachers? We have a 300,000 teacher surplus so we don't need more teachers. We have a shortage of doctors so let qualified doctors in. The bigger problem is many other nations are producing better educated graduates than we are so we are in essence screwing ourselves by coddling mediocrity. Keep producing stupid and we will keep needing more immigrants. Notice how we can't export our dropouts and unemployed? Nobody except ISIS and the Libs want them. View Quote Producing mediocrity is inevitable. There is always a left side of the bell curve. And, given room, we have plenty of space for our own mediocre people. Robots don't install HVACs or repair car bodywork. Importing millions of illegals, with an IQ distribution somewhat to the left of westerners, that has issues. And it crowds out our own mediocre people into welfare. |
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is to much of both! The solution for legal immigration is have it based off the US jobless rate, only allow legal immigration when the US jobless rate falls below, say 4% forcing American employers to invest in and hire Americans rather invest in and import from abroad hand over fist.. What about those jobs no one wants to do? Like doctors... Then we do without! If we keep plucking the best and brightest from other countries particularly third world countries how are those countries ever going to get better? |
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There is only one sure way to stop immigration, stop being a desirable place to live.
So long as we are a good place to live, people who currently live in bad places will want to come. |
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Agreed. First-world nation immigrants only. Fuck off, 'Merica's full. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is immigration from barbarian lands A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one Agreed. First-world nation immigrants only. Fuck off, 'Merica's full. THIS!!! we should only except immigrants that have something to offer .. ie scientists, doctors |
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when I was born America's population was 149 million.
now, 300+ million. please explain to me why we need ANY more people. |
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when I was born America's population was 149 million. now, 300+ million. please explain to me why we need ANY more people. View Quote To continue to grow our economy? Human capital is a necessary part of a strong economy. If you're population stagnates, so does your economic growth. |
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To continue to grow our economy? Human capital is a necessary part of a strong economy. If you're population stagnates, so does your economic growth. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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when I was born America's population was 149 million. now, 300+ million. please explain to me why we need ANY more people. To continue to grow our economy? Human capital is a necessary part of a strong economy. If you're population stagnates, so does your economic growth. Americans bare children so the population does not stagnate, importing millions of low skilled people with low/no education, whom will contribute a fraction compared to what they take out of the system, and bare generational welfare recipients does not grow the economy it destroys it. |
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Hire an illegal. $3000 starting fine. fine doubles every 6 months.
Turn in an employer with illegal employees. $1500 reward to the informant, $1500 reward to the arresting agency. reward doubles every 6 months. completely paid for by the bad employers. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Won't happen. The libs/progressives/commie fucks have managed to convince the multitude of morons that this shit must continue. It will until the people who work and pay the freight have had enough and decide they want to do something about it either at the ballot box (unlikely) or by force, also unlikely. After all.....thinking is too damn difficult for far too many and bowling, bar hopping and television shows are higher priorities. The FSA, the brain washed minorities and the low information voters sure as hell don't want shit to change too much unless it is touchy-feely good dem promoting crap and more freebies.
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How do we limit legal immigration? View Quote My wife is a legal immigrant. We limit legal immigration by having the number of immigration visas decreased. Dead. Nutz. Simple. The problem isn't with the few thousand legal immigrants a month but with the ten thousand illegals that cross every day bringing with them their polio, tuberculosis, leprosy, and soon ebola ... their criminal records and gang relations. |
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Legal immigration is not a problem, considering all the hoops that prospective immigrants have to jump through.
Most of the legal immigrants are people with specific skills (that are in demand in this country), or are people, such as spouses and close relatives, who are coming here to reunite families. People that are not in those preferred categories have to wait years and years before their number comes up, if it comes up at all. My father was invited here after WW2 because his knowledge and experience (as a professor) were needed. He was even offered a direct commission to teach at West Point (which he turned down). |
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Producing mediocrity is inevitable. There is always a left side of the bell curve. And, given room, we have plenty of space for our own mediocre people. Robots don't install HVACs or repair car bodywork. Importing millions of illegals, with an IQ distribution somewhat to the left of westerners, that has issues. And it crowds out our own mediocre people into welfare. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does that mean you are leaving? As a nation of immigrants there should be no problem with legal immigration. Who we let in should be strictly controlled based on needed skills. Teachers? We have a 300,000 teacher surplus so we don't need more teachers. We have a shortage of doctors so let qualified doctors in. The bigger problem is many other nations are producing better educated graduates than we are so we are in essence screwing ourselves by coddling mediocrity. Keep producing stupid and we will keep needing more immigrants. Notice how we can't export our dropouts and unemployed? Nobody except ISIS and the Libs want them. Producing mediocrity is inevitable. There is always a left side of the bell curve. And, given room, we have plenty of space for our own mediocre people. Robots don't install HVACs or repair car bodywork. Importing millions of illegals, with an IQ distribution somewhat to the left of westerners, that has issues. And it crowds out our own mediocre people into welfare. I'm not talking about illegals. Screw them. So tell me, do you want the best and brightest cutting you open or will a mediocre dropout do for your next surgery? You may not care much if the guy picking vegetables can count on his fingers or not but sooner or later you will be paying for his FSA membership when the farmer buys a machine that can do it cheaper and faster. With over 49 million unemployed we don't need more finger counters to join the ranks. We do need well educated people in fields that most of those unemployed can not qualify for. That is the price of mediocrity and we can't afford it. Those who dropout should be automatically disqualified for any kind of benefits or handouts. That alone should thin some of the herd of FSA recruits and discourage illegal immigration. |
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Immigrants will come here as long as Americans won't show up sober to pound nails.
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Anyone who thinks a single thing will change in this country with our current system and ploitical scum is delusional.
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The way you end immigration is to breed enough workers locally. Our problem is 2 fold. Our welfare system does not produce workers. It produces parasites - few decent working Americans want to work for what the immigrants will - no reason when welfare pays better. Second issue - illegal workers are cheaper than legal ones because workforce laws can be ignored. Why pay minimum wage, obamacare, and taxes when an illegal will work for less cash (and no taxes)
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. I would argue that the problem of illegal immigration is tied to legal immigration. We have issues with both that need to be resolved to have things in harmony. |
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How do we limit legal immigration? Is that a typo? The problem is illegal immigration. The problem is immigration from barbarian lands A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one AGREE. The Romans found this out the hard way too. |
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The OP is arguing against LEGAL immigration ... NOT illegal immigration.
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Raise interest rates. Everything falls apart. Home will look better then.
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My dad came here from a third world country. So screw you, OP, I like being an American.
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Things need to get much worse before the opportunity will arise to make things better. The quicker it happens the the better the odds of the right circumstances falling into play. The slow boil is the biggest threat to any realistic turn-around to this destruction of our founding father's dream.
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How do we limit legal immigration? ... Let`s Defend America as America IS and as America SHOULD BE! View Quote Can you explain exactly what that means, please? What exactly is it that you imagine America would become if you shut off LEGAL immigration? What's the end goal for you, if you managed to keep all those horrible LEGAL immigrants out? |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: as sure as the sun will rise, the dumbest goddamned thing I read on any given day will be in ARFCOM GD.
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