How do we limit legal immigration?

I know illegal immigration is a issue but since 1965 legal immigration has lead to many negative changes in this nation that if not halted and reversed will destroy it.

Do we frame it solely as a economical argument? Or do we bring up the change in causes to our culture, politics and demographics?

Why do we have 1,100,000 new people coming into this nation when we have so many people under or unemployed?  A side from give Democrats more voters..

Not to metion bring with them the failed ideas, and ideologies that made their nations hell on Earth.

This PDF  and some studies and links really does spell it out...
http://www.eagleforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014_ImmigrationBook-6-12-14.pdf

How do we get down to 200,000 immigration levels?

I mean many Americans really do not want our nation to change for the worst.


We need to take the best, and keep out the rest....And no more mass immigration no more then 200,000.....We do think the left loves immigration? They get to import voters who love and have only know big government?













I mean...WOW...If you still believe in the same failed ideas, please stay home in your collapsing 3rd world hellhole..

Not anti Hispanic, just posting numbers on the fasting growing group..

More poverty, lower wages, more government, less freedom.

Gum Ball Poverty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Is their any problem that is not made worse by adding millions of more people?

100,000,000 New Americans..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ

Why do we need 100,000,000 more people?

According to a Harris poll, 81 percent of native-born citizens think the schools should teach students to be proud of being American. proud of being American Only 50 percent of naturalized U.S. citizens do.

While 67 percent of native-born Americans believe our Constitution is a higher legal authority than international law,
only 37 percent of naturalized citizens agree.
No wonder they vote 2-1 for the Democrats.

The two largest immigrant groups, Hispanics and Asians, have little in common economically, culturally or historically. But they both overwhelmingly [url=http://www.vdare.com/articles/population-paradoxes-a-post-anglo-america-might-vote-for-big-government-but-couldnt-afford-?page=6] support big government,[/url=Obamacare,http://www.vdare.com/articles/anti-model-minority-leftists-inventing-an-anti-white-pan-asian-identity] affirmative action[/url]  and gun control


Also surprising, a Pew Research Center poll of all Hispanics, immigrant and citizen alike, found that Hispanics take a dimmer view of capitalism than even people who describe themselves as "liberal Democrats." While 47 percent of self-described "liberal Democrats" hold a negative view of capitalism, 55 percent of Hispanics do.

Pew also found that only 27 percent of Hispanics support gun rights, compared to 57 percent of non-Hispanic whites. According to large majorities of Hispanics favor a national database of gun owners, limiting the capacity of magazines and a ban on semiautomatic weapons.

Seventy-five percent of Hispanic immigrants and 55 percent of Asian immigrants support bigger government—also according to Pew. Even after three generations in America, Hispanics still support bigger government 55 percent to 36 percent, compared to the general public, which opposes bigger government 48 percent to 41 percent.


How are Conservatives Republicans' going to square that circle? It's not their position on amnesty that immigrants don't like; it's Conservatives Republicans' support for small government, gun rights, patriotism, the Constitution and capitalism.


Reading these statistics, does anyone wonder why Democrats think vastly increasing immigration should be the nation's No. 1 priority?

They have to import millions of voters to stack the deck, so they can "Cast ballots Americans are not willing to cost, to elect candidates Americans are not willing to elect, to support leftist ideologies Americans overwhelming reject"

It would be one thing if the people with these views already lived here. Republicans would have no right to say, "You can't vote." But why on Earth are they bringing in people sworn to their political destruction?

Republicans have no obligation to assist the Democrats as they change the country in a way that favors them electorally, particularly when it does great harm to the people already here.

Yes, it's great for the most powerful Americans to have lots of cheap, unskilled labor. Immigration definitely solves the rich's "servant problem."

(Approximately 5 million times a day, MSNBC expresses bewilderment that any Republicans oppose amnesty when it's supported by the Chamber of Commerce. Wow! So even people who profit by flooding the country with cheap labor are in favor of flooding the country with cheap labor!)

It's terrific for ethnic lobbyists whose political clout will skyrocket the more foreign-born Americans we have.

And it's fantastic for the Democrats, who are well on their way to a permanent majority, so they can completely destroy the last remnants of what was once known as "the land of the free."

The only ones opposed to our current immigration policies are the people.

We are seeing how badly it has effected this nation and we are taking action to stop it.

Look what they did to California in less then a decade

America should be and remain America and not degenerate into a 3rd world leftist slum.

So how do we make the case airtight?

For those that say it can be done, we have done fought greatest threats and won, hell it took our Eric Cantor in his primary.

Let`s Defend Our Liberty

Let`s Defend Our Freedom

Let`s Defend Our Future

Let`s Defend Our Culture

Let`s Defend Our Values

Let`s Defend Our Constitution

Let`s Defend Our Way and Stranded of Life

Let`s Defend America as America IS and as America SHOULD BE!

What ideas and plans do you guys have in stock..When you need help solving a problem surely the minds at AR15.com know.

The problem is immigration from barbarian lands
A barbarian with a green card is no different than a barbarian without one

If you would see the data we are taking in millions of people every year who do not share our same values...It goes with out saying that illegal immigration is a problem..

Dude High Fucking Five Man..That sums it up so very well...

Agreed.

First-world nation immigrants only.

Fuck off, 'Merica's full.

Legal immigration is already such a ridiculous pain in the ass that I really can't get too mad at the illegals.

My respect for anyone that has successfully acquired the visa and permissions to move here legally from somewhere else is simply immeasurable.

Currently trying to work my way through the system now.

The gf is 25. Masters degree in education. The kind of person we want and need here in the US. It is going to take years of dealing with the government and stacks of paperwork and thousands of dollars to get her here legally.

Fuck the legal immigration process. It is beyond repair.

How amazingly ironic.

Congress makes the laws.  Need I say more?

Not repeating Mexico's mistake is a perfect case for my policy.

Maybe I have learned from history while you refuse to?

Here we go again..

Plus with out us taking the best and brightest of the 3rd world they would have to fix their own nations..

I've not seen the irony-o-meter read "11" before now.  

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No, it is not, We are here, we are under no requirement to allow the 3rd world to pour into our nation just because our fore fathers come into this nation..

We have no obligation to import the failures of less political ideologies..

Bio Shock really did sum it up with this image..

Great to have you aboard..And I love that GIF.

Even if you're "Native American", common theory is that your ancestors came from Eurasia over a land bridge. If you're European, FFS, your ancestors came on a boat or even a plane and it wasn't that long ago.

Not sure how much history you've read, but people were saying the exact same thing about the Irish, Italian, and pretty much all other immigrants in previous generations.

So, you won't address the point I made?

Unchecked immigration by people with dissimilar cultures, values and loyalties weakens sovereignty and causes territorial disputes.

Mexico losing Texas is a perfect example. We should not make the same mistake Mexico did. We can do better.

Guess the Tribes should have done a better job stopping European immigration, eh?

They were pretty fucked by the whole thing...


We're on the block for being fucked by it next, if we don't do something.

The fact others can not see this, or do and welcome it is insulting to the men who have died to protect this nation.

I made an edit too late, but can point you towards more than a few history books where people were saying the same about the Irish and Italian immigrants not so many years ago.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
-Emma Lazarus

"Fuck that shit, gimme only rich white dudes!"
-Arfcom

Non sequatiar..,The came legally, we did not have a welfare system for them to use, nor did they bring the same failed mindset or ideologue from their home nations..

And a major difference was..MASS IMMIGRATION STOPPED!...

+1

You will not end immigration until America is no longer the land of the free.

Mine (on one side) had the good sense to come on a boat in the late 1600s......Too damn far (and wet) to walk.

Emma Lazarus is not exactly the pinnacle of wisdom. She supported share-the-wealth politics of the day.

Something about motion activated sentry drones ....

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Oh, disregard.  I thought you were talking about legal immigration. If you are talking about stopping illegal immigration, totally different thing.

1.  Stop giving away so much free shit to anyone willing to cross the border, whether legally or otherwise.  The motivation to come here should  that you want to work hard and make your way in this world.  Not because "they giving away free health care yo."

2.  Make the process of legal immigration more feasible for those who want to work hard.

So you are O.K with a 120 year old poem dictating Immigration policies?

Yeah that does not fly Immigration was not one of foundering pillars in America, it was limited government and freedom, and if we allow millions of people who have no understanding, or who can not or will not value them and the nation, and culture that made the possible..They do not get to enter...

Both are problem, that is like saying a unwanted guest is only unwanted if you do not know them...

If you are willing to do the work to get into this country legally, I have no problem with them being here. Most legal immigrants I know work a hell of a lot harder than many of the entitled, lazy natural born citizens I grew up around. If you are willing to jump through all the hoops and bullshit currently wrong with our system, I find you will work your ass off to make the American dream a reality for your family.

People tend to forget that part..Shame on them..

And neither do I we just need a cap on that number..Say no more then 200,000 people...

We do not need millions of people who only want to work, and vote for the same failures that killed their home nations, other wise we will become as poor, overcrowed and oppressed as they are...

200,000 people is logical limit, do we need 100,000,000 more people in this nation in 50 years? No, we do not because that will only make things worse..

If you're talking legal immigration, then unless you're "Native American", someone at some point likely said the same thing about your ancestors. My ancestors sailed to Virginia from England in 1652 and I'm sure someone was saying the same thing about them then.

No such thing, Humans are not "Native" to North America...

Well the Native Americans were right, where they not?

This idea that just because we are sons and daughters of immigrates does not me we can not secure our nation and the systems of people who come here.

Annnnnd?

The native Tribes got FUCKED by unchecked immigration by Europeans to this continent.

Seems like a damned good case for limiting immigration.

That is why it is in quotes It is just that no humans were here to say anything.  If they were, they would have complained.

Why is 200,000 the logical limit? I'm not starting an argument, just a legitimate question. Why 200,000 over say, 150,000 or 250,000? Honestly curious.

Once again a great point...Texan We need YOU to run for office..

It's very simple: you stop making it such a welcoming environment for them. They come here and easily can get benefits, education, and there are plenty of business owners willing to hire them at sub minimum wage levels. Go after the businesses that hire them;' go after them hard. Deny illegals welfare, health care, education and other benefits. Stop being so fucking "compassionate." Misplaced compassion is going to destroy us, in the long run.

Well have 200,000 people that leave America every year.

It would make for a slow and stable population level, and it would mean we have a growing stranded of living.

Watch those two videos and you will see the reasoning very sound...I promise you will like them..

Trollolololol

God , we are SO fucked

Ever stop to think this is what the Progressive/Marxist/Statist/Elitist want?

It occurs to me that it would be quite hard to impose dictatorial rule over a society united by common heritage, common history, common ideals and a love of liberty.

It's a lot easier to rule with an iron fist when the nation is divided by sectarian and ethnic strife, and reeling from the collapse of a welfare state. A divided republic cannot stand

The irony is, the Communist goal is going to leave the party members in charge of 6 billion poor prisoners. At least in the VERY end... The enemies of freedom will be kings, ruling over a kingdom of crap.

I wonder if they will be baffled about the death of the shining cities they saw themselves commanding when they started their war on humanity and freedom, but then again they wont win.

More reason why LBJ is burning in hell..I wish he was killed instead of Kennedy.

No, Patriot...Worlds apart but God please you friend.

Only if we do not act, most American want to limit and reduce immigration, if we just stop listing to the Neo Cons and tell the leftist to shut up because they hate America, we will be O.K

Hell it caused Cantor to lose big, as he should have..

I know.

Like I said . . . .