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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:14:22 AM EDT
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numbers say peyton is better than brady in everything except sack yardage And championships. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:23:52 AM EDT
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He is the ultimate QB. No doubt about that. Think about the physical skills that Vince Young had and then loo at Peyton Manning and then look at who is the greatest. It is amazing how cerebral the position is. It was however hilarious how they were playing keep away with the ball and how he looked like a freshman trying to get the ball from a bunch of seniors.  That man has the athletic ability of Frankenstein's monster. On the rare occasion when there is a hole big enough for him to run, you can see the only decision he makes slowly. "There is a very large gap, what should I do? Throw the ball! No, um what else. Oh yeah run. I shall now begin running. Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! There's a defender 15 yards aways. slide thingy!" |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:26:04 AM EDT
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I just don't like the manning boys. They'll throw a pick then bitch and moan and blame it on anyone else. Instead of just taking it like a man. Not so much anymore, but I just cant stand watching either of em. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:31:21 AM EDT
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congrats Peyton! He pays respect to those that came before him, that's admirable...
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:09:50 AM EDT
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name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 7:37:09 AM EDT
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numbers say peyton is better than brady in everything except int% And playoff wins, playoff TDs, and SB wins. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 7:52:16 AM EDT
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TB is possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many rings does Terry Bradshaw have? Its a team game. TB is possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Overrated by who ? I have never heard Bradshaw mentioned in a conversation about the greatest quarterback of all time other than to mention his four superbowl rings; which was never an attempt to call him the greatest of all time. Those teams certainly are some of the greatest of all time however. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:29:49 AM EDT
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Haters going to hate
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:38:23 AM EDT
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Not sure about greatest QB ever. I'd argue the greatest by the book QB ever. He melts when his team goes to crap and he has to deviate from the script.
Farve is still the king of making cookies from crap. I think Montana was the best of both QB worlds and holds the title of all time greatest QB. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:39:53 AM EDT
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Still doesn't have the win percentage of Brady.
 Class act, great guy. He deserves more rings.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:40:25 AM EDT
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So... since rings are what really matter, is Charles Haley the best football player ever?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:44:57 AM EDT
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Yup pretty darn cool. Especially because he's still at the top of the game. And is doing it on two different teams at 38 years old. Most great QBs tailed-off more than a bit when they changed teams toward what would be considered the sun-set of their careers after a major injury. P. Manning is special and his like will be rarely seen again....if ever. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:48:13 AM EDT
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And championships. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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numbers say peyton is better than brady in everything except sack yardage And championships. And head to head game wins. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:48:41 AM EDT
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:54:14 AM EDT
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So... since rings are what really matter, is Charles Haley the best football player ever? rings are what matter when you get to the guys qualified to be in the conversation. Trent Dilfer isn't in the conversation. Brady Manning Montana Aikman Elway Marino Bradshaw are in the conversation. The rings matter there. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:55:48 AM EDT
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? It certainly won't hurt his argument. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:01:08 AM EDT
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? I suppose it would be nice to see him catch up to his goofy younger brother 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:03:50 AM EDT
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Manning is ultimate proof of the old saying, "Defense wins championships"
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:05:59 AM EDT
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TB is possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many rings does Terry Bradshaw have? Its a team game. TB is possibly the most overrated QB of all time. I used to be a big Bradshaw fan. But I smartened up. I thought it through a little and with the players around him, he should have won five or six Superbowls. He screwed up the 1977 season by throwing a key interception in the Denver playoff game and that was a year the Steelers should have won another Superbowl. He also messed up against the Raiders in 1973--that was another playoff game down the drain. When you have the kind of supporting cast that Bradshaw had, how can a quarterback go wrong? Bradshaw also has no class. He did not attend Chuck Noll's funeral |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:06:09 AM EDT
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Found this somewhere:
Playoff records: Peyton Manning 9 wins in 20 games...Joe Flacco 9 wins in 13 games. 
Edit: Manning's career playoff record is now 11 wins in 23 games; he's now 1-2 in Super Bowls. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:12:00 AM EDT
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Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Exactly. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:14:36 AM EDT
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? He has his "ring card" punched. How many he ends-up with by the time he retires does not really mean anything at all except to those that only look to bring a great QB down. 
Joe Montana retired at 38.....P. Manning is still going strong. Brett Farve retired at 43 and Manning has already surpassed the records Farve set that really matter. You can tell a lot by what his main playing peer has to say about him. "To me, he's the greatest of all time. He's a friend of mine, and someone that I always watch and admire, because he always wants to improve, he always wants to get better, and he doesn't settle for anything less than the best. So, when you watch the best and you're able to learn from the best, hopefully that helps me get better." —Tom Brady, on Peyton Manning |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:15:08 AM EDT
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Exactly. Unless it's the postseason. Then he's not even the best at the dinner table at a family gathering. (I kid I kid, Eli is not in the conversation) |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:15:49 AM EDT
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That man has the athletic ability of Frankenstein's monster. On the rare occasion when there is a hole big enough for him to run, you can see the only decision he makes slowly. "There is a very large gap, what should I do? Throw the ball! No, um what else. Oh yeah run. I shall now begin running. Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! There's a defender 15 yards aways. slide thingy!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is the ultimate QB. No doubt about that. Think about the physical skills that Vince Young had and then loo at Peyton Manning and then look at who is the greatest. It is amazing how cerebral the position is. It was however hilarious how they were playing keep away with the ball and how he looked like a freshman trying to get the ball from a bunch of seniors. That man has the athletic ability of Frankenstein's monster. On the rare occasion when there is a hole big enough for him to run, you can see the only decision he makes slowly. "There is a very large gap, what should I do? Throw the ball! No, um what else. Oh yeah run. I shall now begin running. Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! There's a defender 15 yards aways. slide thingy!" 
I like watching manning play, and this was hilarious! |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:24:35 AM EDT
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I like watching manning play, and this was hilarious! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is the ultimate QB. No doubt about that. Think about the physical skills that Vince Young had and then loo at Peyton Manning and then look at who is the greatest. It is amazing how cerebral the position is. It was however hilarious how they were playing keep away with the ball and how he looked like a freshman trying to get the ball from a bunch of seniors. That man has the athletic ability of Frankenstein's monster. On the rare occasion when there is a hole big enough for him to run, you can see the only decision he makes slowly. "There is a very large gap, what should I do? Throw the ball! No, um what else. Oh yeah run. I shall now begin running. Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! There's a defender 15 yards aways. slide thingy!"
I like watching manning play, and this was hilarious! Ironically of course is that manning probably has a faster 40 time then 99% of the posters in this thread. I have never run for a touchdown in the NFL. Manning has. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:26:09 AM EDT
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Archie Manning could run.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:27:05 AM EDT
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Ironically of course is that manning probably has a faster 40 time then 99% of the posters in this thread. I have never run for a touchdown in the NFL. Manning has. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is the ultimate QB. No doubt about that. Think about the physical skills that Vince Young had and then loo at Peyton Manning and then look at who is the greatest. It is amazing how cerebral the position is. It was however hilarious how they were playing keep away with the ball and how he looked like a freshman trying to get the ball from a bunch of seniors. That man has the athletic ability of Frankenstein's monster. On the rare occasion when there is a hole big enough for him to run, you can see the only decision he makes slowly. "There is a very large gap, what should I do? Throw the ball! No, um what else. Oh yeah run. I shall now begin running. Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! Left foot! Right foot! There's a defender 15 yards aways. slide thingy!"
I like watching manning play, and this was hilarious! Ironically of course is that manning probably has a faster 40 time then 99% of the posters in this thread. I have never run for a touchdown in the NFL. Manning has. So yes, Manning is better than all of us obviously at QB but Michael Vick has run for a lot of TDs too |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:01:33 AM EDT
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It certainly won't hurt his argument. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? It certainly won't hurt his argument. It will move him up with in the top five of all time. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:06:18 AM EDT
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How many rings does Terry Bradshaw have? Its a team game. And back then they didn't have the "hands-off" defenses they have now. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:16:19 AM EDT
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As a Pats fan, I sports hate the hell out of Peyton Manning. Incredible QB through, and seems to be a real class act. Can't NOT have respect for him, in my opinion. He has consistently had better weapons than Brady though, if that matters (outside of 07). Still deserves all the credit, great player.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:17:29 PM EDT
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You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. Should Denver have kept the offense they were using in the prior season and had Manning run(LITERALLY) that ? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:30:00 PM EDT
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It will move him up with in the top five of all time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? It certainly won't hurt his argument. It will move him up with in the top five of all time. Agreed, if he's not there already. I'm sure if you got 100 fans, players, coaches, commentators in a room, there would be little consensus on #1, but 95 out of 100 would have about the same 5 or 6 in consideration. I'm happy with our guy just being in the mix
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:31:16 PM EDT
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Just from a pure "capability" standpoint...if you're picking a team of all-time all stars and don't have Peyton Manning as your starting QB you're doing it wrong.
He's probably the best offensive coordinator in NFL history.... and he plays QB very, very well at the same time. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:32:52 PM EDT
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Just from a pure "capability" standpoint...if you're picking a team of all-time all stars and don't have Peyton Manning as your starting QB you're doing it wrong. He's probably the best offensive coordinator in NFL history.... and he plays QB very, very well at the same time. Well if I actually want to win the game I'll go with Brady
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:36:23 PM EDT
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Archie Manning could run. Sure could. Remember though, he was playing for the Saints way back then and you had to run to stay alive.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:37:12 PM EDT
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Still doesn't have the win percentage of Brady.
Class act, great guy. He deserves more rings. He deserves nothing. He needs to earn the rings. Joe Montana (4 rings) Terry Bradshaw (4 rings) Tom Brady (3 rings) Bart Starr (2 rings) Roger Staubach (2 rings) John Elway (2 rings) They earned the rings. Marino has some of the awesome stats too but he will never be considered one of the best without the rings. Manning had his ass handed to him in the superbowl. He has been to 3 superbowls got his ass beat in two of them and only won the one due to the fact that Sexy Rexy turned the ball over 5 or 6 times. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:37:35 PM EDT
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To the haters.....if Peyton wins the SB this year, will that change your mind at all? Yes |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:53:02 PM EDT
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Should Denver have kept the offense they were using in the prior season and had Manning run(LITERALLY) that ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. Should Denver have kept the offense they were using in the prior season and had Manning run(LITERALLY) that ? Did you even read the post I'm responding too? The part where it says "name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate." ? Now do you see why I pointed out it's not a different offense? The reading comprehension is becoming common core level here
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Posted: 10/20/2014 4:50:03 PM EDT
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Did you even read the post I'm responding too? The part where it says "name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate." ? Now do you see why I pointed out it's not a different offense? The reading comprehension is becoming common core level here Quote HistoryQuoted:
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name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. Should Denver have kept the offense they were using in the prior season and had Manning run(LITERALLY) that ? Did you even read the post I'm responding too? The part where it says "name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate." ? Now do you see why I pointed out it's not a different offense? The reading comprehension is becoming common core level here You are playing word games and it does not invalidate what Cypher15 posted
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Posted: 10/20/2014 4:53:14 PM EDT
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Omaha!
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rings don't necessarily make you great. The game is not played to set personal records. Superbowl rings are the only reason to play the game, and Superbowl rings make you great. Joe Montana, the best! |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:06:35 PM EDT
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He's the best to ever play the quarterback position. Yes he is. And from all accounts he is a pretty classy dude. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:15:01 PM EDT
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The game is not played to set personal records. Superbowl rings are the only reason to play the game, and Superbowl rings make you great. Joe Montana, the best! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:18:06 PM EDT
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Agreed, he IS the best QB ever. Not a Colts or Broncos fan here but have to give the man his due.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:18:25 PM EDT
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Dang more haters out there than I would have guessed
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:22:48 PM EDT
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No QB in history has been better at reading and identifying the weaknesses in the defense, making adjustments to exploit them, and delivering the package.
It isn't even close. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:26:03 PM EDT
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509 ! Meh Farve has 114 more INTs
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:28:32 PM EDT
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Peyton's accuracy and ability to read the defense on the field are unparalleled. Say what you want about his Super Bowl win count but don't forget it's a team game before holding that against him.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:31:00 PM EDT
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That family sure has some football genes.
haha, news is he scripted the 'keep away' gag. talk about compulsive and not leaving anything to chance.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:34:17 PM EDT
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You are playing word games and it does not invalidate what Cypher15 posted Quote HistoryQuoted:
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name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. You don't really pay attention to the games do you? If you did, you would notice Manning made the Broncos change the offense to EXACTLY what he ran in Indy. It's an incredibly simple offense that's easy to learn and very effective when executed properly. Dude is a HOFer but he's a 1 trick pony too. Should Denver have kept the offense they were using in the prior season and had Manning run(LITERALLY) that ? Did you even read the post I'm responding too? The part where it says "name 1 qb that could go from team to team, use COMPLETELY different offenses, and win at the same rate." ? Now do you see why I pointed out it's not a different offense? The reading comprehension is becoming common core level here You are playing word games and it does not invalidate what Cypher15 posted You've lost me...so I'll just say again Manning is a one trick pony just like Brady. It got them both to the HOF though so good for them. |
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