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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:33:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:34:04 PM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know?
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:34:47 PM EDT
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Lol that's my point. Rings don't necessarily make you great. Think if manning played with those steel curtain defenses. Lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many rings does Terry Bradshaw have? Its a team game. TB is possibly the most overrated QB of all time. Lol that's my point. Rings don't necessarily make you great. Think if manning played with those steel curtain defenses. Lol Oh I 100% agree with you. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:35:58 PM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know? Frank , I think he named one Frank ! |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:36:48 PM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know? Frank , I think he named one Frank ! Is that Frank from Omaha? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:39:29 PM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know? Frank , I think he named one Frank ! Is that Frank from Omaha? Yes , Omaha Omaha ! |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:41:08 PM EDT
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Where was this thread last February?
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:41:09 PM EDT
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I am turning into a Broncos fan just to cheer him on. What a great guy and history!
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:42:22 PM EDT
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win?
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:43:44 PM EDT
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:50:59 PM EDT
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? Does trolling this thread make you feel better about your team losing to a team that got smoked by the Vikings? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:58:42 PM EDT
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB.
But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:59:06 PM EDT
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And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? Don't think anyone is saying he's never lost a game. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:01:11 PM EDT
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:01:44 PM EDT
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Don't think anyone is saying he's never lost a game. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? Don't think anyone is saying he's never lost a game. Agreed but plenty say he's the best ever to play it which is what we're disagreeing with |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:04:34 PM EDT
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Agreed but plenty say he's the best ever to play it which is what we're disagreeing with Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? Don't think anyone is saying he's never lost a game. Agreed but plenty say he's the best ever to play it which is what we're disagreeing with Who was a better all around qb? Take that guy and replace him with Peyton and I contend that team would have been improved. That's where I stand anyway. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:07:55 PM EDT
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Who was a better all around qb? Take that guy and replace him with Peyton and I contend that team would have been improved. That's where I stand anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? And took the most prolific offense ever to even new heights by scoring 8 points in the big game? Don't think anyone is saying he's never lost a game. Agreed but plenty say he's the best ever to play it which is what we're disagreeing with Who was a better all around qb? Take that guy and replace him with Peyton and I contend that team would have been improved. That's where I stand anyway. He's in the conversation no doubt, and my guy is Brady but it pains me to say even he isn't the best ever. Montana did it the best IMO |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:11:38 PM EDT
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Fair enough. It's sports these debates will always exist. Just remember what Matt castle did when inserted into Bradys role. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:12:41 PM EDT
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Does trolling this thread make you feel better about your team losing to a team that got smoked by the Vikings? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't this the guy that threw a pick-6 to give New orleans their first SB win? Does trolling this thread make you feel better about your team losing to a team that got smoked by the Vikings? 
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:14:02 PM EDT
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Fair enough. It's sports these debates will always exist. Just remember what Matt castle did when inserted into Bradys role. I remember. Took the exact same team that won 16 games the year before and only won 11 and missed the playoffs, only time in the last 11 years. Talk about a drop off. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:17:54 PM EDT
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Great QB no doubt about it, he just can't win the big games and he was part of real good teams.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:18:47 PM EDT
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Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Bingo |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:22:49 PM EDT
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Bingo Yeah but to be seriously considered the best ever you have to do it when it matters the most, and Peyton looks up to even his goofball brother in that category. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:27:46 PM EDT
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Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:31:53 PM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know? Immaculate something or other... |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:39:33 PM EDT
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Peyton Manning is a great guy, and well deserving of the record. He has the skill, and class, that I can support him getting it. Even if he is a Bronco.
Anyone remember last year when he broke Brady's single season TD record last year? I think he said something along the lines of, It's a temporary record, I'll enjoy it while I can. Tom will probably break it again next year. Not common in sports to see an athlete who is obviously the best of their time being that humble, and respectful. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:42:30 PM EDT
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Number of rings??
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:44:04 PM EDT
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Number of rings?? /Thread In before the Dilfer/Marino comparison but yes when talking about the Top 5 all time, rings matter |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:44:41 PM EDT
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Greatest Ever.
Although I really hope his Hall of Fame statue has that dumb red helmet mark on the forehead. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:45:33 PM EDT
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Number of rings?? /Thread Bradshaw? |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:48:31 PM EDT
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No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:48:42 PM EDT
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Yukonboy agrees with this message
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:58:06 PM EDT
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He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:05:49 AM EDT
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Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. Lol. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:15:40 AM EDT
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You know what is crazy? Peyton has a realistic shot at 600.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:21:30 AM EDT
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And yet only 1 SuperBowl ring. Sorry, he needs a few more of those before you can even consider throwing his hat in the ring for best QB ever.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:28:19 AM EDT
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I think that Pittsburgh, Seattle,and the Patriots have something to say about that. 500000 touchdowns is cool but I want several of those silver footballs on display. Eli beat Brady twice.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:36:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:41:18 AM EDT
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Do any of those 510 touchdowns have a name? One that we all know? I don't like him souly based on the fact that he's a challenger for the Seahawks, but I can appreciate what he has done. Yes, they all have a name and number attached to them 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:46:06 AM EDT
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Prolific / putting up numbers does not mean GOAT.
He is a great qb, but not the best ever. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:47:30 AM EDT
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Having the most touchdowns does not necessarily make you the best QB ever. There are a lot of QBs who were stuck with a shitty O-line, or shitty receivers, or had an injury that shortened their career. But Peyton is certainly one of the greats, and IMO, better than Favre was.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:51:52 AM EDT
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I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. Bingo Actually, the NFL does have an efficiency rating system, and nobody has ever done it more efficiently than Aaron Rodgers. Peyton Manning is second place, but well behind Rodgers. And it's not even close between first and second place. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:56:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:57:37 AM EDT
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Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Way to go Peyton! (<------- grew up watching Favre tear it up) This. I grew up about 40 miles from Favre's town. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:59:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I give him credit for longevity, and coming back from that injury. He was always a tough competitor, accurate passer...definite HOF QB. But no way in hell is he the best QB ever. Quarterbacks are supposed to generate offense. Score points, throw touchdowns, lead an offense, manage a game and defeat defenses. No one has ever done this at a more efficient level. Period. No QB has ever had a system built to protect and make him successful like Manning. Well, maybe Brady...but there's many QBs that could be successful in those offenses. The best QB's find a way to win when all hell breaks loose. Unitas, Favre, Montana, Graham, Elway are all ahead of these guys. He litterly designed and trained the personel to run the system Manning and Brady are both system QB's. Knock either of these systems out of rhythm and both look pedestrian. its retarded to try and move a goal post in such a way that is simply intellectually dishonest. you create an offensive system that promotes your qb's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. anyone with sense knows that. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:00:48 AM EDT
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Yip
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:03:02 AM EDT
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It's been an honor having him qb my favorite team. He really is one of the good guys in sports. He learned it from his dad. Archie is one of the most humble stand up guys you will ever meet. A surperb person. And as they say, the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:12:39 AM EDT
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numbers say peyton is better than brady in everything except int%
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:14:18 AM EDT
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