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Now Coon-Ass couldn't die soon enough, or horribly enough for my liking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know if I can watch that one. Shia Lefruit seems to ruin the movies he is in. I really liked his work in this movie. I soooo wanted to hate him, but I too felt he acted well. Now Coon-Ass couldn't die soon enough, or horribly enough for my liking. As rotten and unpleasant as he could be, the scene with him and Norman in the aid station caused me to re-evaluate him. You begin to realize that he wasn't always this way, that like the others he has learned to cope with what he's seen in his own way, and it has turned him into the asshole we see. |
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I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the movie started. The film kind of reminded me of GI Combat comic books. Maybe it's because the guys go through a whole bunch of different scenarios in a really short time span. View Quote My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. |
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It was very believable, as far as the .50 there's precedent of it happening in real life... Fury is basically a lot of individual instances of what could happen over the course of 3-4 years of war in large group condenced and consolidated to one crew and 2 hours. View Quote Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. |
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Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was very believable, as far as the .50 there's precedent of it happening in real life... Fury is basically a lot of individual instances of what could happen over the course of 3-4 years of war in large group condenced and consolidated to one crew and 2 hours. Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. I felt that the struggle went on too long, and that in reality someone would have intervened, the POW would have started running, or Wardaddy would have given up. |
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Given Pitt's age, could Wardaddy have been Tristan from Legends of the Fall?
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As rotten and unpleasant as he could be, the scene with him and Norman in the aid station caused me to re-evaluate him. You begin to realize that he wasn't always this way, that like the others he has learned to cope with what he's seen in his own way, and it has turned him into the asshole we see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know if I can watch that one. Shia Lefruit seems to ruin the movies he is in. I really liked his work in this movie. I soooo wanted to hate him, but I too felt he acted well. Now Coon-Ass couldn't die soon enough, or horribly enough for my liking. As rotten and unpleasant as he could be, the scene with him and Norman in the aid station caused me to re-evaluate him. You begin to realize that he wasn't always this way, that like the others he has learned to cope with what he's seen in his own way, and it has turned him into the asshole we see. He reminded me of "Snafu" from The Pacific, but even more dickish and unlikeable. Our military would really have to be desparate to empty out the booby hatch and let someone so unstable go to war. |
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Overall the movie does a good job of showing how it sucked being in a Sherman when they went up against German armor. I knew an old Sgt. that was a TC from d-day+2 to Germany. He said they never went looking for heavy or medium German armor- that was what reverse gear and the air corps were for. It also showed the outright hatred many GI's had to Waffen-SS. I remember him saying that they were no Waffen-SS prisoners that he took, and if was German Army, it better be 5 or more. I wish it had done a better job of showing the effect of Panzerfausts and Panzerschrecks at that stage of the war. George said that by the time they got into Germany, the biggest fear was not Tigers and Panthers, but the 14 year old hiding behind a wall or fence with a Panzerfausts He said he lost quite a few buddies that way. He was a neat old guy and I miss his stories.
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LOL Would have been a whole different movie! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Given Pitt's age, could Wardaddy have been Tristan from Legends of the Fall? LOL Would have been a whole different movie! Well... He DID like stabbing people. No scalps, though. |
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I don't know if I can watch that one. Shia Lefruit seems to ruin the movies he is in. He's pretty pretty damned good in it. Yeah, I was surprised. He really does disappear into that character. I may not like him as a person but he did a fantastic job acting here. |
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Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was very believable, as far as the .50 there's precedent of it happening in real life... Fury is basically a lot of individual instances of what could happen over the course of 3-4 years of war in large group condenced and consolidated to one crew and 2 hours. Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. I thought that whole scene was ridiculous. I understand why they did it for the story but it was utter bullshit. |
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My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the movie started. The film kind of reminded me of GI Combat comic books. Maybe it's because the guys go through a whole bunch of different scenarios in a really short time span. My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. |
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Quoted: In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. View Quote You're overthinking it. Its a work of fiction. But, a couple of points: its well documented that in April 1945 there wasn't much operable armor remaining for Germany. The war was nearly over. Also, there are many accounts throughout the war of one soldier or marine single handedly taking out dozens of attackers. In this movie it happens to be a badass tank crew doing it.
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The tank shell or at gun shells whizzing by had me ducking out of the way incredible sound. I wish the tiger had more screen time and at least one moreover tank on tank battle .
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They did a really good job with the sound and image of tank shells that would miss or ricochet.
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Quoted: He reminded me of "Snafu" from The Pacific, but even more dickish and unlikeable. Our military would really have to be desparate to empty out the booby hatch and let someone so unstable go to war. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: snip He reminded me of "Snafu" from The Pacific, but even more dickish and unlikeable. Our military would really have to be desparate to empty out the booby hatch and let someone so unstable go to war. |
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In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the movie started. The film kind of reminded me of GI Combat comic books. Maybe it's because the guys go through a whole bunch of different scenarios in a really short time span. My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. My thoughts exactly. |
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I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the movie started. The film kind of reminded me of GI Combat comic books. Maybe it's because the guys go through a whole bunch of different scenarios in a really short time span. My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. My thoughts exactly. Right. Why not just walk up behind it where there's no guns? I get that the turret can rotate, but it's not like it was spinning in a circle the whole time. |
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Quoted: Right. Why not just walk up behind it where there's no guns? I get that the turret can rotate, but it's not like it was spinning in a circle the whole time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the movie started. The film kind of reminded me of GI Combat comic books. Maybe it's because the guys go through a whole bunch of different scenarios in a really short time span. My take as well. Watched it with my grown son today. We both enjoyed it. Saw it in a "RPX" theater which is similar to imax. The accuracy of the weapons, equipment, and vehicles was astounding. I wish the Tiger had more screen time but the tank battle was intense nonetheless. In reality those SS boys would have fucked that Sherman up in 15 minutes tops. lol And they screwed up by having every 5th or 6th SS guy carrying a Panzerfaust on his shoulder while they were marching, but then they opened up a couple of cases of them and said "these are all we have..." Using MG42s against the Sherman was kinda stupid too. In reality they would have sent in a few troopers to recon the crossroad and they would have dealt with the Sherman without exposing the whole damned company. And, as you know, the SS were heavily mechanized, so there would more than likely been a few more vehicles than one 1/2-track. The scene where they approached the tree line and fought it out with those guns was really amazing. Over all I like it but there's no way in hell that tank would have survived more than 15 minutes. And there wouldn't have been that many SS loses against a single immobilized Sherman. My thoughts exactly. Right. Why not just walk up behind it where there's no guns? I get that the turret can rotate, but it's not like it was spinning in a circle the whole time. |
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There's every reason to hit the tank with MG fire.
A It keeps them buttoned up to cut down SA. 2 IRL if would fuck up the view ports and periscopes further reducing SA. It's still a tactic practiced today. |
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Overall I liked it. Not too sure about the war crimes though...
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Just got back from seeing it with the wife.
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There's every reason to hit the tank with MG fire. A It keeps them buttoned up to cut down SA. 2 IRL if would fuck up the view ports and periscopes further reducing SA. It's still a tactic practiced today. View Quote Not quite how it was demonstrated in the movie. I totally get that it's a fictionalized account, but it was still irritating. ETA - And considering the effective range of an MG42 they could have, and would have, set up a firing position 500-1,000 meters away and been relatively safe from the limited visibility of the Sherman's MG gunners... If there's one thing that Germans had mastered by the end of WWII it was how to fuck shit up with MG crews. Their entire infantry doctrine was based around MGs doing the heavy lifting. I like the movie but that kinda stuff just bothers me. IMHO Saving Private Ryan was much more believable in this regard. |
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Was it a bad thing that I was the only one who chuckled when the bored, drunk soldiers blew up the piano? Because that's what they'll do. And it was quiet enough I was the only one I heard. Not a lol moment but worthy of a snort.
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Realistically, they should've used a conscript unit of old men and teenagers in the last battle, but that would be too much for people.
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Saw it yesterday & liked it.
Agree with the scene about opening the case of panzerfausts & "this is all we have." Also, why not have all the MG ammo IN the tank instead of drinking beforehand? I liked it simply because it was a tank movie. Now, if we could only have a movie re-creation of the Battle of Kursk.................... |
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I don't know if I can watch that one. Shia Lefruit seems to ruin the movies he is in. View Quote He doesn't always play some blabber mouth blubbering fool. He didn't ruin Fury. I think like a few have said, it compressed the character development of the noob. Some things I thought were not as good as they could have been... The first battle with the AT gun, the tracers looked like Star Wars blaster bolts. It looked a little on the hokey side, but was still gripping. I did like the first person view of the gun firing. Against the Tiger, I was on the edge of my seat. I knew that 4 Shermans against a Tiger could prevail, but 3 of the Shermans would likely be lost. You could see the one burly heavyset TC was almost crying... he knew he was fucked. The problem I had was that they compressed the range a bit... and that the Tiger targeted the M4 (with the short 75mm gun) instead of the Easy 8 with the better 76mm gun, which was a greater threat. It was pretty well known that if the kraut tankers could see a greater threat (like a Sherman Firefly for instance), they would try to take it out first. Next, when Fury got around the Tiger's right flank, after its turret had traversed left, it wouldn't have been able to get its gun around fast enough. It was one weak point of the Tiger... very slow turret traverse... but it did convey the terror and the need for tank crews to wear brown pants. It was also cool that the Tiger in the movie... was a REAL Tiger tank. That was a cool factor to it. Overall, it's part was pretty small. |
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Quoted: not this one. He redeemed himself with this movie View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't know if I can watch that one. Shia Lefruit seems to ruin the movies he is in. not this one. He redeemed himself with this movie Apparently he only ruined it for the cast and crew. He's a definite nut case. After reading the below, the constant same dirty spot on his right cheek made sense. From IMDB: Shia LaBeouf reportedly pulled out his own tooth and refused to shower during filming, angering the cast and crew. |
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The logs stopping the 88 round at basically knife fighting range was less believable than the SS unit being chopped up by the Sherman at the crossroads.
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Just got back from seeing it with the wife. Really ought to have gone by myself. View Quote Not sure what you mean by that, but it was definitely a little too intense for my wife. She was pretty upset that we didn't see "Gone Girl" instead. Myself....I can't wait to see it again. Also really looking forward to "Unbroken" coming out soon. |
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To me it was a harsh reminder that the US has not always enjoyed superiority in equipment in every aspect. That we forced men into inferior tanks is appalling and I pray as a nation we never allow our men and women to go to war with inferior equipment. The tank battle against ONE Tiger Tank really pissed me off, because I know that guys died like that taking them on.
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The logs stopping the 88 round at basically knife fighting range was less believable than the SS unit being chopped up by the Sherman at the crossroads. At that range, it should have gone through the other side. Don't get started on angled hits etc., it was point blank range, 88 vs Sherman side armor and logs. No, no, no. View Quote But then the movie would have ended |
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To me it was a harsh reminder that the US has not always enjoyed superiority in equipment in every aspect. That we forced men into inferior tanks is appalling and I pray as a nation we never allow our men and women to go to war with inferior equipment. The tank battle against ONE Tiger Tank really pissed me off, because I know that guys died like that taking them on. View Quote At the time the tactic for taking out a Tiger was to attack it with 4-5 Shermans with the expectation that only one or two would survive the fight. The plan was to overwhelm the Germans with more material, not better material. That's not the way we do it any more. |
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The logs stopping the 88 round at basically knife fighting range was less believable than the SS unit being chopped up by the Sherman at the crossroads. At that range, it should have gone through the other side. Don't get started on angled hits etc., it was point blank range, 88 vs Sherman side armor and logs. No, no, no. But then the movie would have ended But, but. Realism. Don't get me started on the Tiger crew bailing out on a mobility kill when their turret and gun still worked... |
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Yeah - slow turret speed on the Tiger was one of its weaknesses. I recall reading a quote from a U.S. WWII tanker that was something to the effect of "you had time to bounce 3 or 4 shots off a Tiger's armor before it could crank that turret around and blow you to hell".
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Yea, why did the 4 Shermans go straight at the Tiger??
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Quoted: They did that to entire Wermacht uniots who stopped fighting or refused to carry out their brutal orders. I have pics from my grandfather of entire Wermacht units that were slaughtered. He said in one pic all the Wermacht were run over with a train. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: History buffs: did the SS actually do that to kids who refused to fight? |
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Quoted: Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It was very believable, as far as the .50 there's precedent of it happening in real life... Fury is basically a lot of individual instances of what could happen over the course of 3-4 years of war in large group condenced and consolidated to one crew and 2 hours. Didn't some Army 1stSgt receive the MOH doing just that? I thought the execution of the POW was shit. Almost gratuitous. Manned a.50 until his unit got away. He didnt unfortunately
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Quoted: Yea, why did the 4 Shermans go straight at the Tiger?? Even I thought that was stupid. Split up and move around the beast in a wide arc. Attack from all sides. View Quote |
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Quoted: There's every reason to hit the tank with MG fire. A It keeps them buttoned up to cut down SA. 2 IRL if would fuck up the view ports and periscopes further reducing SA. It's still a tactic practiced today. View Quote That .50 and .30 up top would be swiss cheese as would the barrels on the coax and asst. drivers mount
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