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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:39:42 PM EDT
My nominee is George Armstrong Custer.
Yeah, he lost a battle at Little Bighorn, but he was a good cavalry commander during the civil war. On balance, he does not deserve the hatchet job done to him by revisionist historians with ulterior motives. IMO.  |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:44:35 PM EDT
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I disagree with you, but that is neither here not there. I think Dr. Mudd got a hell of a bad deal. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:46:47 PM EDT
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My nominee is George Armstrong Custer. Yeah, he lost a battle at Little Bighorn, but he was a good cavalry commander during the civil war. On balance, he does not deserve the hatchet job done to him by revisionist historians with ulterior motives. IMO. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Custer_Bvt_MG_Geo_A_1865_LC-BH831-365-crop.jpg/275px-Custer_Bvt_MG_Geo_A_1865_LC-BH831-365-crop.jpg You ever actually read up on his Civil War performance? He was a back-stabbing prima-donna asshole who wouldn't follow orders, and was highly political. The only reason he wasn't shit-canned for the peace-time Army had to do with his political connections. Custer was a complete tactical dumbass who got very lucky on a couple of occasions, and that saved his ass, reputation-wise. His brother was actually probably the better officer, but he never got out from under George's shadow until they were both killed at Little Big Horn. Custer was a political hack, a Courtney Massengale before Anton Myrer wrote that character into life. Some have said that Massengale was even partially based on Custer. To be honest, I'd have to say that the historical opinion on Custer is drastically tilted in his favor, already. He was actually worse than commonly thought. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:49:20 PM EDT
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Who was the dude at the Atlanta Olympics who found the backpack bomb, then got crucified?
That guy |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:50:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Napoleon.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who was the dude at the Atlanta Olympics who found the backpack bomb, then got crucified? That guy Good one. Richard Jewel. I was at Fort Benning at the time and I remember the news. They really savaged him and went with the hero wannabe redneck theme. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:55:01 PM EDT
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Judas Iscariot
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:55:23 PM EDT
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I read a Victor Davis Hanson column once in which he called Smedley D Butler a crank.
FVDH
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:56:22 PM EDT
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I vote me
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read a Victor Davis Hanson column once in which he called Smedley D Butler a crank. FVDH I think it was him (IRRC) who was purported to be involved in plotting a coup around the bonus army timeframe. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:56:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Richard III
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:57:49 PM EDT
[#11]
The Jews
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:58:25 PM EDT
[#12]
Bush l and ll.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:01:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Dan Quayle.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:02:52 PM EDT
[#14]
John Lackland
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:03:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Bush #2 was easy to hate. Still miles better than President Ebola.
I don't understand Custer's motivations in the months prior to the Little Bighorn, and would appreciate the TL;DR version for history retards 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:03:50 PM EDT
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I disagree with you, but that is neither here not there. I think Dr. Mudd got a hell of a bad deal. You would be wrong. While for many years several of the family members tried to clear his name, there were many reasons why he was prosecuted for his involvement in AL's assassination. And as a descendant of Dr. Mudd and doing my own research. He was guilty. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:05:12 PM EDT
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Trotsky. I think he could have made Europe "Red" if he was General Secretary of the Soviet Union.
But he'll be known as the crack pot 5th column communist that murdered by Stalin.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:05:38 PM EDT
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Good one. Richard Jewel. I was at Fort Benning at the time and I remember the news. They really savaged him and went with the hero wannabe redneck theme. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who was the dude at the Atlanta Olympics who found the backpack bomb, then got crucified? That guy Good one. Richard Jewel. I was at Fort Benning at the time and I remember the news. They really savaged him and went with the hero wannabe redneck theme. damn...that guy died at 44 years of age. 
did he ever get compensated for having his life destroyed |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:06:26 PM EDT
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Already posted, but as soon as I saw your post, thought of richard jewell. Poor bastard. Rip
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:06:52 PM EDT
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Judas Iscariot Benedict Arnold. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:11:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Jeffery Amherst
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:14:16 PM EDT
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Benedict Arnold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Judas Iscariot Benedict Arnold. He was capable, but took out his personal offendedness by betraying the cause he was fighting for. Even if he was fucked politically (not all that sure that he was) he was a traitor. Even the Brits held him in disdain. No dice, he sold out. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:18:02 PM EDT
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Jeffery Amherst Interesting choice -- I agree |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Good one. Richard Jewel. I was at Fort Benning at the time and I remember the news. They really savaged him and went with the hero wannabe redneck theme. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who was the dude at the Atlanta Olympics who found the backpack bomb, then got crucified? That guy Good one. Richard Jewel. I was at Fort Benning at the time and I remember the news. They really savaged him and went with the hero wannabe redneck theme. you mean arfcom theme 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:19:07 PM EDT
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Joke answer is Tonya Harding.
Actual answer are: Richard Jewell, Gen McCrystal and France's Marshal Ney. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:20:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Aaron Burr
fal |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:20:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Calvin Coolidge. What better than a President who does nothing???!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:21:49 PM EDT
[#28]
Vlad the Impaler got a bad rap
his war on poverty actually produced results as did his war on terror |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:25:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Snowden.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:34:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Senator Joe McCarthy
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:43:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You ever actually read up on his Civil War performance? He was a back-stabbing prima-donna asshole who wouldn't follow orders, and was highly political. The only reason he wasn't shit-canned for the peace-time Army had to do with his political connections. Custer was a complete tactical dumbass who got very lucky on a couple of occasions, and that saved his ass, reputation-wise. His brother was actually probably the better officer, but he never got out from under George's shadow until they were both killed at Little Big Horn. Custer was a political hack, a Courtney Massengale before Anton Myrer wrote that character into life. Some have said that Massengale was even partially based on Custer. To be honest, I'd have to say that the historical opinion on Custer is drastically tilted in his favor, already. He was actually worse than commonly thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
My nominee is George Armstrong Custer. Yeah, he lost a battle at Little Bighorn, but he was a good cavalry commander during the civil war. On balance, he does not deserve the hatchet job done to him by revisionist historians with ulterior motives. IMO. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Custer_Bvt_MG_Geo_A_1865_LC-BH831-365-crop.jpg/275px-Custer_Bvt_MG_Geo_A_1865_LC-BH831-365-crop.jpg You ever actually read up on his Civil War performance? He was a back-stabbing prima-donna asshole who wouldn't follow orders, and was highly political. The only reason he wasn't shit-canned for the peace-time Army had to do with his political connections. Custer was a complete tactical dumbass who got very lucky on a couple of occasions, and that saved his ass, reputation-wise. His brother was actually probably the better officer, but he never got out from under George's shadow until they were both killed at Little Big Horn. Custer was a political hack, a Courtney Massengale before Anton Myrer wrote that character into life. Some have said that Massengale was even partially based on Custer. To be honest, I'd have to say that the historical opinion on Custer is drastically tilted in his favor, already. He was actually worse than commonly thought. Two-time Medal of Honor recipient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Custer |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:43:47 PM EDT
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Who was the dude at the Atlanta Olympics who found the backpack bomb, then got crucified? That guy Richard Jewell |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:48:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Nikolai Tesla
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:50:36 PM EDT
[#34]
Lt. Col. Oliver North. Did the .govs bidding and they lynched him for it. Got a chance to meet him back in 07 in Kuwait.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:51:56 PM EDT
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John Wilkes Booth
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:52:37 PM EDT
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Custer was a half assed military commander who frequently did extremely stupid shit for 'glory'.
One of the funniest is shooting his own horse while chasing antelope on his first Indian escapade. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:57:40 PM EDT
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Brutus
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:04:34 PM EDT
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He did help Booth, but was he aware of who he was and what he had done?
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:05:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Joseph McCarthy
Because, look where we are now. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:07:25 PM EDT
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Judas Iscariot You took the one I was going to post. Without his betrayal, the prophesy wouldn't have been fulfilled. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:08:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Monica Lewinsky
ETA and Robert Bork. Both names are now verbs or nouns. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:08:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Ollie and other soldiers
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:09:56 PM EDT
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Ozzy
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:11:10 PM EDT
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Joseph McCarthy Because, look where we are now. Came here to post that. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:13:14 PM EDT
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Marie Antoinette
It's highly unlikely that she ever said "let them eat cake" She spearheaded many reforms to help the poor, and really wasn't the villian people portray her as. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:13:47 PM EDT
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Joesph McCarthy
And that brings us back to Senator McCarthy. Does Venona and everything that has come out of Russian archives in the past decade demonstrate that he was correct in arguing that communist conspirators had infiltrated the American government and that Democratic administrations had not only turned a blind eye to treasonous activity but actively aided and abetted it? Does he deserve credit for exposing Communist spies who had betrayed their nation to serve a foreign power? There are several things about which Senator McCarthy was right — although he was by no means the first or only person to note them. There was a very significant issue of national security presented by communist spying and subversion. No government can turn a blind eye to spying as extensive as that directed against the United States by the Soviet Union. Secondly, the American Communist Party was serving as an agent of a foreign power. Venona makes crystal clear that the leadership of the CPUSA was not only aware of Soviet intelligence networks in the government, but also actively assisted the KGB in recruiting American communists to spy. The CPUSA even had several liaisons who worked with KGB spymasters. The KGB code word for members of the CPUSA was "Fellow Countrymen.” Nearly every American who worked for the KGB or GRU was a member of the CPUSA. That does not mean, of course, that all communists were Soviet spies, but most assuredly, most spies were communists. Thirdly, McCarthy was partially correct that the Roosevelt and Truman administrations had been slow to respond to the issue of Soviet espionage. Whittaker Chambers had first gone to Adolph Berle with information about Alger Hiss, Harry White, Lauchlin Currie and others right after the Nazi-Soviet Pact and nothing had been done. It was not just that many liberals refused to believe that people like Hiss could not be spies. Even J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI did not make Soviet espionage a major priority until 1943 and their early investigations, while filled with promising leads, did not go very far. To a large degree this was a consequence of the war — German and Japanese espionage was a much larger priority. Once the FBI began to make progress in unearthing Soviet espionage, the initial reaction of the Truman Administration was to worry that it could be embarrassed by the revelations of so many spies in so many important jobs. Not until 1948 did the administration launch an assault on Soviet espionage — convicting communist leaders under the Smith Act, prosecuting Hiss and the Rosenbergs and instituting a loyalty-security program to weed communists out of the government. But espionage prosecutions were extremely hard to mount. For all her revelations, Elizabeth Bentley provided no usable documentation to take to court. If the government had tried those she accurately accused, it would have come down to her word against theirs because the Venona cables were off limits to prosecutors. Fourthly, despite the decision of Soviet intelligence to close down most of its operations in the United States by the time McCarthy first made his charges, American intelligence had no knowledge of that fact. And, irrespective of whether Soviet intelligence networks were or were not functioning when he made his charges, the fact remained that some 200+ people who had served as Soviet spies were still unidentified. Was "Donald,” identified in Venona as a captain in the Navy in 1944, still there in the 1950s? Had he been promoted to Admiral? Had Muse, an employee of the OSS, transferred into the CIA? Was Dodger, a State Department official with some expertise in Soviet affairs, helping to make policy on the USSR? And was Quantum, the unidentified scientist who had turned over atomic data to the KGB, now working on the hydrogen bomb? |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:15:47 PM EDT
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Senator Joe McCarthy |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:20:46 PM EDT
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Joseph McCarthy Because, look where we are now. Truth , turns out he was right about a lot of stuff |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:21:19 PM EDT
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Dr. Kevorkian
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:22:24 PM EDT
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Joe Hooker. Apart from the unfortunate name affiliation and the cronyism, he did have a good initial plan at Chancellorsville which then went awry after he got conked on the head by a falling mansion column and refused to relieve himself. Despite all that he turned out to be a decent subordinate commander in the western theatre
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