So some gal is banging some nerds (yeah right ) and okay that's all I got.





Ed

I've been following this for some time.

Steal from charities, fuck for good reviews, and try and censor people?

You're my enemy.

I like this thread.

I can attest to people being banned from 4chan over this. I was one of them.

Thank you for the link to the Internet Aristocrat. This guy is amazing.

whats left now that 4chan is banning people ? 4chan sold out to who?

so thats all you got from this? and  are we still thinking that nerds cant have jobs or families?

This 'social justice' isn't just on the internet and video games.  A lot of conservative, pro-gun authors of sci-fi and fantasy novels are being treated unfairly because the 'powers that be' disagree with the social commentary the conservative authors have (or maybe it's a lack of leftist commentary,lots of the targeted books don't have a strong conservative commentary they are fairly neutral) and are mad at how popular some of those authors are getting.

MOOT has financial connections to the the Fine Young Capitalists



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Young_Capitalists



Internet Aristicrat covered his involvement in one of his videos



 

if anita screwed over TFYC why would moot be censoring GG posts?

-removed wrong info-





I'm still very confused





 

excellent point.  i had forgotten about the dust-up with the leftists giving Hugo Awards to their favored fellow travelers, but it really does dovetail perfectly.

Larry Correia's blog posts on this were nothing short of amazing.

we really are at war, as a culture.

everything that represents freedom/libertarian ideas (sci-fi was built on this), or heroic action of an exceptional person (games are filled with this), is being attacked incessantly by the left.

it really is a war.  thankfully, the Internet has allowed the word to get out, as it moves too fast for censorship.

Yeah, I still don't understand why Moot was banning people on 4chan when they were actually on his side.

Moot' s girlfriend works for gawker.
 








 

It was both of them. I agree that Zoe Quinn had a lot more to do with it though.

I could post a very large conspiracy theory, but I'm not going to. The facts that we have are that Moot and Anita attended several of the same conferences, and have allegedly been "in talks" about GG.

The original part of this was when Tumblr raided 4Chan, and 4Chan retaliated, as they are wont to do. This led to the niece of the owner of Gawker to attempt suicide. The owner of Gawker threatened Moot, and then he replaced many of the old mods and janitors on 4Chan with new SJW mods. There are several people that can back this up. When GG first picked up steam (before it was called GamerGate) the mods were deleting threads, claiming that /v/ and /b/ were being flooded with them. It was resolved, and only a few threads were put up at a time.

Then during a conference in early September, which both Moot and Anita attended, GG threads and all references started being deleted and posters were mass banned. This created chaos, with Moot not responding to the issue until after the conference ended. Moot claimed that GG threads were raid/doxing threads and thus were against CoC. Obviously this was bullshit, which lead to the great migration from 4Chan. Moot has bowed to the SJWs, licking their boots in submission.

Yep.

I haven't been to 4chan in months, where is the new hangout?



IM works



 

Just watched the Internet Aristocrat vid, but I have a question.

Does the root "fairness in journalism" issue primarily revolve around coverage of independent games?

Honestly? I don't know. I've been here.

IMs sent.

Yes, you are very confused.



After Gamergate got started, The Fine Young Capitalists were funded by gamergate supporters.  See also Vivian James.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Young_Capitalists



http://www.dailydot.com/geek/fine-young-capitalists-women-video-games-4chan/



Of course, since the shadowbans, halfchan is dead to a lot of people.

yup, I got a couple wires crossed, hard to do with this super easy to follow scandal





turns out moot was involved with gawker media, for another business venture of his. He was seen at gawker events with sarkeesian there and in order to get/keep their backing he had to toe the line.





or something





 

The fun part starts when you get into DIGRA and you get into the social and academic backgrounds of the social justice warrior crowd that's behind GameJournoPros and all these other tyrannical anti-gamer lefties.

Internet Aristocrat had several stream videos (since pulled by him), one of which he talked to Sargon of Akkad who explained DIGRA and the SJW background, and who explains DIGRA a bit in the following video.  He also discusses it in the Honey Badger Radio video posted a page or two ago with the honey badger crew (which includes GirlWritesWhat).

Anyhow, enjoy a new group of connections:

You are aware that the women involved were making fake threats against themselves, right?

And stealing from charities.

[narrator voice]Previously, on ARFcom:[/narrator voice]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1676155__Massacre__threat_forces_Anita_Sarkeesian_to_cancel_university_talk.html

just stop.

He's saying the same things that other people who aren't up to speed on it are saying, because they hear gamergate stuff from sources that agree with the whole leftist/SJW/GameJournoPro bullshit going on.  Having an opposing point that either does rely on NPR for unbiased, fair, accurate, professional, impartial reporting... or an opposing point that's just throwing out the MSM argument just means more opportunity to discuss it and point out how erroneous the SJW claims are.


Also, for those who missed it, HotAir did a bit on Gamergate:

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/05/a-few-more-thoughts-on-gamergate/

That was a great show, I watched when it happened. Notice that the SJWs refused to be part of the discussion, could it be because they're woefully outmatched by those that have a clue?

I just got around to finally watching the Thunderfoot video about Sarkeesian's "death threats" and Joss Whedon's supportive tweets... and his inherent - by Sarkeesian's definitions - misogyny.

If you transcribed Sarkeesian's words and posted them on ARFcom, you'd swear someone was quoting a RustedAce post pushing new boundaries of Poe's Law.

 And of course she seems to get death threats when she's in need of media attention or funding.

No shit?  I don't venture over there but once every few years, but I was under the impression that the only (apparently other) thing that you get banned for was posting CP.



That speaks volumes.



 

Yup.

Censorship was "explained" as a "misinterpretation" that needs more "explanation" in a very Obama fashion.  More info here.

Reddit's also been full of shadowbans... so bad that even wikileaks was involved peripherally.

One more gamergate video that's a bit shorter and brings some things together a bit quicker... though the gal's accent is a bit distracting.

ETA: Just watched a bit further in... not mincing words (and she has a couple side comments about Syria that are a tad zany).

ETA2: Reposted because on finishing the video, it's pretty well accurate as far as gamergate goes; though her opinions on Syria are a tad weird.

One more interesting story, from a few months back:

http://www.dailydot.com/fandom/anita-sarkeesian-fanart-plagiarism-theft/



ETA: And then of course there's this - tl:dw jump to 1:00 for "I'm not a fan of videogames":

Is this...real?

 

Nineteen seconds of some shithead's creative editing was enough.

She's not a fan of video games. I heard it the first time she said it.

LIBERTARIAN BREAKOUT OPPORTUNITY!!!

Sorry, I just had to drop this turd in the punchbowl...

TC

A lot of the particulars are fascinating for the in-crowd for a lot of other reasons - especially for what they do signify.

But the short version is that one scandal about sex for favors turned into exposing GameJournoPros - a game journalist mailing list like Ezra Klein's JournoList.  While Ezra Klein made sure nothing bad was written about Obama and all criticism was hushed up on every front, and every critic was condemned by a torrent of commentary and articles deriding them... this is the same thing.

Just this time, it's a cultural, rather than political action.

Predating video games may throw off your perspective here a bit.  Keep in mind that a lot of modern video games, especially those with a linear story, are often just like interactive films - except they're ones you're guiding yourself through - for 10 or 20 or 50 or 100 hours worth of game play.  It becomes immersion, even for those who are just casual players.

The question then becomes how are all these game "journalists" influencing games being made.  In the Quinn case, there was a group called Fine Young Capitalists that went out to connect game writers and programmers with women who had ideas for games.  Woman brings the idea, FYC brings the skills, game gets made.  Quinn criticized them for being transphobic because they only wanted to work with women... and she being the one who's in bed (figuratively and literally) with games "journalists".



So, you have some social justice warrior type who's got hooks into game journalists - who all have their own incentuous social justice networks - condemning a group of gamers working to make games for women... because they weren't SJW enough because they wanted to make games for women and not trans/otherkin shims or whatever.

There's an exposed entire culture of video game "journalists" and "critics" who have little to no interest in video games, but have every interest in using immersive media that Joe and Jane Average may use for escapism as an SJW tool to spread their own social justice messages.


The interest in 4chan's change is again, a change of culture.  Due to some back-room stuff, an internet message board that was pretty much free suddenly changed all its policies almost overnight.  Later, when gamergate came to light, it was rabidly deleted by moderators there.  Given its status as a place where anyone could say just about anything, it came as quite a shock to the posters there.  Of course, it's not limited to 4chan - it's also reddit, Neogaf, and a dozen other websites with either specific or peripheral interest in videogames.


Think if Jerry Tsai, Jim Zumbo, Dan Cooper, and Troy were actively working to shit on AR owners and crowdfunding their "ARs are babykilling machineguns" videos with money solicited from anti-gunners.  If every criticism of their actions was fired back at with "this is just a bunch of racist rednecks yelling about nothing", and if rather than just four of them, there were forty of them, or four-hundred of them.  Now imagine if the Avilas got contacted by Bloomberg, who offered them a billion dollars to change the direction of ARFcom... and the mirror-universe Avilas agreed and overnight all the mods were replaced and the tech forums suddenly shrank only to discussions of how to make your stuff SAFE act compliant.  And if you asked about what was going on in GD you suddenly found yourself banned.  That's the equivalent of what RandomGuy1911A1 was referencing.

Some of it is nerd drama, but a lot of it is also a lot of websites that were formerly free speech havens suddenly turning against their own readers/posters/members - violently and actively, as part of an orchestrated campaign.  And with GameJournoPros - we know it was an orchestrated campaign.


Yeah, a lot of it's nerd stuff, but it's also kind of a big deal, because it's a handful of games "journalists" working behind the scenes use their influence to control what's culturally acceptable and what's not.  They got found out, they got found out big-time, and now they're in full spin-mode using their public communications degrees to the fullest to convince people that it is nothing - or that it's only racist sexist homophobes saying anything - and that #notyourshield (which is all nonwhite/female/other people who are pro gamergate) simply don't exist.

It's symptomatic of the culture.

No one is concerned about who's fucking who.  The who's fucking who just happened to be the catalyst that exposed all this stuff.

While we've seen shit for journalistic integrity over more serious matters, culture is still an issue.  Bill Whittle's "where do we go from here" speech makes the point quite well - if you win the culture, you win the elections, you win the nation - all by default.

Also like Ed Morrissey at HotAir noted, and Internet Aristocrat mentioned even before going on HotAir - this is the stuff the right has seen with JournoList and such - this is the same kind of aggressive leftist propagandizing we've seen on larger scales.

If the social justice warrior types have free reign over what is and isn't in video games, which are a big part of culture for a lot of Americans (especially impressionable kids who are the future), then that's one more group they control - except right now this is the opportunity for people to see what that aspect of cultural marxist SJW wants, and what they will do.


The same people who disregard F&F and Benghazi as "right wing phony scandals" are the same people who are pushing against gamergate - they're ideologically identical.

But this is something different because the Vivian Jameses of the world who are just playing games and don't want to be told that their favorite game is racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/otherkinphobic and must be cancelled in favor of the non-game DepressionQuest are the folks who can be reached with this right now.  They're people who are on the cusp of realizing that there really is a collectivist political-correctness SJW brigade that actively is out to get them.  They can see it.

They have a narrow worldview right now because they have accepted the crap the media throws at them.  They don't question NBC over not reporting on F&F until 2011 because it's out of their frame of reference and they're low-info voters anyway... but gamergate is a direct assault on on their world.  It's an intrusion into their own escapism - where someone is coming right into their console or PC and telling them how they should think.


It's a different kind of big deal, but yes, it is a big deal.  Those who've been watching it closely find it to be a very big deal.  Imagine trying to explain F&F to an NBC viewer who thinks it's a phony scandal made up by racists to go after Eric Holder... they may just be wholly ignorant of what's going on and why it's an issue.  But it also doesn't always lend to patience.

lol

Actually, you can see it in responses over the last 4 pages that there are people who are missing the opportunity.  Some maybe because they're short on data, others maybe just because they're inclined to yell "NERDS!" and then wholly ignore the fact that video games do influence culture.


Yes, when you have one of the highest-rated most-played games that is essentially a leftist parody of racist America as the villain at the same time people in real life are dressing up in tri-corner hats to protest taxation... I'm sure themes and images like this that are central to that kind of incredibly immersive video game don't have any influence on low-information voter players and their opinions outside the game:



Seriously, it's a culture thing, and it is a big deal on its own.

It's also close to the low-information voter adult who uses games as a form of escapism from their 9 to 5.


If we had anti-gun messages throughout games being pushed by Bradys, GD would be apoplectic.

Tldr

All those fuckers should just get outside and play a game of kickball to settle it.

Bullshit!

 

Get back to us 15-25 years from now when kids, who have grown up having their entire thinking dictated by leftists via social engineering that will permeate every aspect of our culture, start to vote. It very much affects what you listed.
You are being very short-sighted.