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Posted: 10/7/2014 11:19:18 AM EDT

A Georgia SWAT team shot and killed an armed homeowner during a
September 24 drug raid sparked by the word of a self-confessed meth
addict and burglar who had robbed the property the previous day. No
drugs were found. David Hooks, 59, becomes the 34th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.



Garrett’s claims were the primary basis for the search warrant. But
investigators also claimed they were familiar with the address from a
2009 investigation in which a suspect claimed he had supplied ounces of
meth to Hooks, who resold it. Nothing apparently ever came of that
investigation, but the five-year-old uncorroborated tip made it into the
search warrant application.



Mitchell Shook, an attorney for Hooks’s family, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that deputies spent 44 hours searching Hooks’s home for drugs — yet they found nothing. The attorney also told the Macon Telegraph that the shooting didn’t happen the way the police say it did.



"She saw several men all in black and camo with hoods on,” Shook said.
"She ran downstairs, woke David and said, ‘The burglars are back.’ ”



"They may have seen him with a weapon, but it appears at that point in
time it was chaos,” Shook said. "They were shooting everywhere. There’s a
lot more to it than law enforcement has reported.”



So add another body to the pile. Four years ago, I described another fatality at the hands of a Georgia anti-drug task force — the death of pastor Jonathan Ayers. Eight years ago,
a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston
during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her
basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from
an informant and did no corroborating investigation. In 2010, a Polk
County, Ga., drug raid team put a 76-year-old woman in intensive care
with congestive heart failure after raiding the wrong house. In 2008, a
Gwinnett County tactical team terrified a couple and a baby when they
raided the wrong home. In 2000, a Georgia police raid team shot and killed Lynette Gayle Jackson when she held up a gun as they broke into her home. Jackson had recently been robbed. In 2006, Deputy Joseph Whitehead was shot and killed
during a surprise raid on a suspected drug house. The men who shot him,
Antron Fair and Damon Jolly, argued that they thought they were being
robbed by a gang. They later pleaded guilty to murder to avoid the death
penalty. And, of course, last May, 19-month-old Bounkham Phonesavanh was critically wounded
when officers deployed a flash grenade in his crib during a drug raid
on his home. That raid, too, lacked much in the way of investigation.



That’s all just Georgia.



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How can you NOT feel safer in a world protected and served like that? You do want to feel safer right? Is that a can over there? - TS
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:20:35 AM EDT
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War on drugs and officer safety duh
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:23:51 AM EDT
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Anyone who hasn't become increasingly uncomfortable with no-knocks, the "war" on drugs, etc is completely out to lunch and apparently wants their ass-wiped by the almighty state from cradle to grave...  
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:25:46 AM EDT
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Least the officer went home safely...
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:27:42 AM EDT
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No drugs found?  Police need more training in the art of "finding" evidence.
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Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:28:43 AM EDT
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When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail...
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Sometimes it's just easier to plant them
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:33:42 AM EDT
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Jesus Georgia, WTF are you guys doing over there?

Then again, TX is not much better.

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No shit.  Forty-four hours is long enough for a plant to grow roots.





 
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Probably total man hours. 22 cops combed the house for 2 hours or something like that...
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No-knock raids have a place in the toolbox, but use of them for fishing expeditions like  this one is foolish.  Basing it on the word of a methhead is just the icing on the cake.






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No it isn't.   We had a swat raid against a farm for not stacking firewood properly.




fucking insane






Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:39:50 AM EDT
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End the insane war on drugs.  

At this point anyone who still supports this stuff is an unabashed statist.  

Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:41:12 AM EDT
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Having been the victim  of a cop lying to get a no knock warrant.  .I am not surprised.  I am sure as in most cases there will be no punishment

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If you're willing, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to hear the story.






Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:43:03 AM EDT
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Yay, war on drugs !!!
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:43:19 AM EDT
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"In 2010, a Polk County, Ga., drug raid team put a 76-year-old woman in intensive care with congestive heart failure after raiding the wrong house."
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So what happens if the police do one of these no knocks, get the wrong house, and someone shoots at/an officer thinking they are an intruder?  Lets say it's a state with a castle doctrine/ no duty to retreat.

Who if anyone is charged and with what crime(s)?

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Too late.

The gov. is way too big-even ending the War on (some) Drugs wont stop it,they will just be used for other things (not stacking firewood correctly,home schooling,selling raw milk,making guitars,et fucking cetera,et fucking cetera..............
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  No it isn't.   We had a swat raid against a farm for not stacking firewood properly.

fucking insane




Wow.



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  No-knock raids have a place in the toolbox, but use of them for fishing expeditions like  this one is foolish.  Basing it on the word of a methhead is just the icing on the cake.



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Anyone who hasn't become increasingly uncomfortable with no-knocks, the "war" on drugs, etc is completely out to lunch and apparently wants their ass-wiped by the almighty state from cradle to grave...  

  No-knock raids have a place in the toolbox, but use of them for fishing expeditions like  this one is foolish.  Basing it on the word of a methhead is just the icing on the cake.





Yes, it should be a tool in the toolbox, but I think that there needs to be a very specific set  of criteria that needs to be met before
they are used and all due diligence needs to be applied in verifying the intel on the subject of the warrant.

Shooting the wrong person because you want to the wrong address to bust a pot head is never excusable in a free society IMO.
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FPNI
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:45:30 AM EDT
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No-knock warrants are for evidence preservation, not police safety, as was pointed out in the OP.  Since they didn't find any evidence, why the no-knock?  I'm guessing the taxpayers are going to be soaked good on this one.  I know if I was one, I'd be calling for the chief's nuts, along with the judge who signed this bullshit warrant.
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:46:27 AM EDT
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Military vehicles being used.
Military type arms.
Dressed to look like some kind of tier 1 military operator.
Wearing military insignia.
Acting like they are above reproach by lowly citizens.

The list goes on and on.  I really have nothing good to say about our nations various LEO agencies.  I just try to avoid them at all costs.
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I gotta read that story.
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Yes, it should be a tool in the toolbox, but I think that there needs to be a very specific set  of criteria that needs to be met before

they are used and all due diligence needs to be applied in verifying the intel on the subject of the warrant.



Shooting the wrong person because you want to the wrong address to bust a pot head is never excusable in a free society IMO.
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Anyone who hasn't become increasingly uncomfortable with no-knocks, the "war" on drugs, etc is completely out to lunch and apparently wants their ass-wiped by the almighty state from cradle to grave...  


  No-knock raids have a place in the toolbox, but use of them for fishing expeditions like  this one is foolish.  Basing it on the word of a methhead is just the icing on the cake.











Yes, it should be a tool in the toolbox, but I think that there needs to be a very specific set  of criteria that needs to be met before

they are used and all due diligence needs to be applied in verifying the intel on the subject of the warrant.



Shooting the wrong person because you want to the wrong address to bust a pot head is never excusable in a free society IMO.




 
I totally agree,   and the word of a methhead shouldn't be enough to get anyone swatted.






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So what happens if the police do one of these no knocks, get the wrong house, and someone shoots at/an officer thinking they are an intruder?  Lets say it's a state with a castle doctrine/ no duty to retreat.



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Not a wrong house, but another case closer to what happened in this case.



http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aar15.com+ryan+frederick



Cops used a tainted source as an excuse to kick in a door and it cost a cop his life and a kid the rest of his.



You can't really win against the government when it really wants to remind you of your place.



 
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation.



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do you have the real skinny on it?  Her family got a shit ton of money for no reason then?










Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:53:22 AM EDT
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Mandatory drug testing on any welfare recipient or government beneficiary would far more effective.

If you stop the users, the drugs will go away on their own.

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Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid
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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.
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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.
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Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write.




Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid
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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.


snap
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Double tap
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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation.



Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write.

Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid

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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.




 


Link Posted: 10/7/2014 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Let me guess...no drugs found means the guy is white as snow and a model citizen?
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Not a wrong house, but another case closer to what happened in this case.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aar15.com+ryan+frederick

Cops used a tainted source as an excuse to kick in a door and it cost a cop his life and a kid the rest of his.

You can't really win against the government when it really wants to remind you of your place.
 
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So what happens if the police do one of these no knocks, get the wrong house, and someone shoots at/an officer thinking they are an intruder?  Lets say it's a state with a castle doctrine/ no duty to retreat.

Who if anyone is charged and with what crime(s)?

Not a wrong house, but another case closer to what happened in this case.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aar15.com+ryan+frederick

Cops used a tainted source as an excuse to kick in a door and it cost a cop his life and a kid the rest of his.

You can't really win against the government when it really wants to remind you of your place.
 

Isn't what got him a manslaughter conviction was the fact that VA doesn't have a castle doctrine and the state proved he didn't retreat or attempt t retreat?
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 12:01:03 PM EDT
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The cops are responsible for the murder. What about the judge. Some how, we need to hold these banana judges accountable.
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No shit.He just had to be guilty of something............
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation.

Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write.




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All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death.

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Bama is just trying to use a mistake in the article (used an informant rather than lied about using an informant) to detract from the story and the fact that the police murdered a man in his own home.

Modus operandi. Attack the article when it makes TBL look bad.
Link Posted: 10/7/2014 12:03:28 PM EDT
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Ya know, there is supposed to be a safety measure on all these things.  Why aren't the judges signing these warrants being removed?
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Judges need to be more judicious when signing warrants.
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Maybe, maybe not. But that doesn't really have a damn thing to do with it, does it?
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  No-knock raids have a place in the toolbox, but use of them for fishing expeditions like  this one is foolish.  Basing it on the word of a methhead is just the icing on the cake.






I agree. I work very closely with my local drug unit. I've questioned the Sgt in charge regarding their use of no-knocks, and have expressed my serious concern that they get it right. He is a nice, laid-back guy and took it the right way. I mentioned to him that getting awakened in the middle of the night by such a fury of activity in my house might not go down all that smoothly. He did say that many times they like to go after the meth heads in the middle of the day, because they're more likely to be alseep then after being awake all night from their meth high. I also mentioned my dog (an akita) being a good guard dog, and he said that the flash-bangs usually scare the hell out of even the most protective of dogs, and they're not much of an obstacle after that. I hadn't considered that angle... most dogs are very scared of loud noises like that (mine sure is). I would say that our conversation was a positive learning experience for both of us.

Anyways... the WoD is a failure at its stated/implied cause... but a complete success in bringing in more power and money to the courts and LE agencies.
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So what happens if the police do one of these no knocks, get the wrong house, and someone shoots at/an officer thinking they are an intruder?  Lets say it's a state with a castle doctrine/ no duty to retreat.



Who if anyone is charged and with what crime(s)?



Not a wrong house, but another case closer to what happened in this case.



http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aar15.com+ryan+frederick



Cops used a tainted source as an excuse to kick in a door and it cost a cop his life and a kid the rest of his.



You can't really win against the government when it really wants to remind you of your place.

 


Isn't what got him a manslaughter conviction was the fact that VA doesn't have a castle doctrine and the state proved he didn't retreat or attempt t retreat?


I don't recall, but I don't really care either.



That agency wrongly set all of that in motion.



 
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No charges because home owner well be dead
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It's for the kids
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So how long until Police just start calling in an airstrike on suspected "drug homes" instead of risking lives.



I mean drugs = terrorism..... so... drone strikes!
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We had a swat raid against a farm for not stacking firewood properly.



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A City of Arlington spokesman meanwhile told the television station that the purpose of the raid was to 'improve the quality of life, to resolve life safety issues within neighbourhoods and to hold the property owner responsible for creating blight conditions on their property'







basically I think they got swatted by the same people making complaints and when no drugs turned up the city used the code enforcement excuse as cover

 
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If you'd have said that 20 years ago, most would have thought your comment so absurd as to not even be worth typing a response to. But anyone who doesn't see the implications of the road we're headed-down is truly living in denial.
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I'm sure he spanked his dog too hard or jaywalked or any other reason that should lead to him being carried out in a body bag.

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