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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:48:54 PM EDT
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NY on 17 North..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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where at? NY on 17 North..... Got stopped there numerous times when my gf was at Cornell. Membership has it's privileges. 
ETA: The upstate troopers were always better then the ones on Long Island. 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:50:35 PM EDT
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Well done.  This. Good job Sir. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:52:17 PM EDT
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Was this a state RT 17 or a county RT?
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:53:13 PM EDT
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they have dogs that can sniff out explosives. So I wouldn't doubt they have dogs sniff out guns Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the cops have gun sniffing dogs. lol Are the cops carrying guns when they are running the dog?  The only "gun sniffing" dogs I have heard of are game warden dogs that look for spent shell casings, but can find guns also. Never heard of anyone else having them because sniffing guns doesn't generate revenues for departments like sniffing drugs. You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me they have dogs that can sniff out explosives. So I wouldn't doubt they have dogs sniff out guns For crying out loud, Here the Fish Police have dogs that sniff out Lobster. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:27:29 PM EDT
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Yes I probably wouldn't have said shit and let him look. If I had guns I'd refuse the consent to search and roll the dice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you have acted differently if you didn't have your LE creds on you? ( Serious Question) Yes I probably wouldn't have said shit and let him look. If I had guns I'd refuse the consent to search and roll the dice. Just say No sir, ewe guns are icky and only police should have them. 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:35:29 PM EDT
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OP, what part of 17? Town or Exit Number? You can PM me if you don't want to post it here. 17 is a stretch. What part of 17? |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:38:25 PM EDT
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Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! Not poking the bear. Being smart. I have no idea what is legal or illegal in New York (and common sense sure doesn't have much to do with that), so I'd just as soon not have them poking around in my car, either. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:48:13 PM EDT
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Not poking the bear. Being smart. I have no idea what is legal or illegal in New York (and common sense sure doesn't have much to do with that), so I'd just as soon not have them poking around in my car, either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! Not poking the bear. Being smart. I have no idea what is legal or illegal in New York (and common sense sure doesn't have much to do with that), so I'd just as soon not have them poking around in my car, either. This is the problem, I can guarantee you empty ammo cans and an empty pelican case is not illegal, when we have to be afraid of driving around with empty boxes its all over, the country is done, might as well roll over. Its sad we have come to this.... |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:59:36 PM EDT
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For crying out loud, Here the Fish Police have dogs that sniff out Lobster. They must suck at sniffing them out, since I've seen Maine lobster festivals down there in Florida. Send the dogs up here for proper training  
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:17:56 PM EDT
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Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! fpni i guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:22:38 PM EDT
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Lol
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:25:23 PM EDT
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I guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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fpni I guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. This. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:31:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:34:35 PM EDT
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fpni I guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. This. That. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:10:24 AM EDT
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What would be the problem with full ammo cans? I get the pelican case with the safe act but ammo.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:23:44 AM EDT
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff. OP is retarded. No. OP is a free American citizen. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:26:25 AM EDT
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff. OP is retarded. No. OP is a free American citizen. OP had a get out of jail free card. Not blaming you or anything... but stops much like this one have resulted in life altering actions in the past. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:27:56 AM EDT
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OP had a get out of jail free card. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff. OP is retarded. No. OP is a free American citizen. OP had a get out of jail free card. BINGO and Bingo was his name O. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:29:35 AM EDT
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HOLD ON!!!!! You were driving around with ammo cans and a gun case IN PLAIN VIEW ??????? What is that line from the movie FOREST GUMP???? Trying to remember it but it escapes me. Right. Why would a retired LE keep such theft bait out in plain view? At least conceal it if you dont have a trunk. Asking for a brick through the window from some banger. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:34:16 AM EDT
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Right. Why would a retired LE keep such theft bait out in plain view? At least conceal it if you dont have a trunk. Asking for a brick through the window from some banger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HOLD ON!!!!! You were driving around with ammo cans and a gun case IN PLAIN VIEW ??????? What is that line from the movie FOREST GUMP???? Trying to remember it but it escapes me. Right. Why would a retired LE keep such theft bait out in plain view? At least conceal it if you dont have a trunk. Asking for a brick through the window from some banger. I don't generally worry about thieves stealing shit out of my car while it's moving 60+ mph either. Unless you're talking about cops trying to fuck your life up for having ammo cans and gun cases, then yeah. Of course the same type of asshole who would ask "what's in the can" and threaten to manufacture cause to search without your consent is probably almost as likely to give you a bunch of bullshit for having stuff he can't see under a blanket. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:36:14 AM EDT
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Well done, OP.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:11:02 AM EDT
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Fucking asshole cop
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:22:50 AM EDT
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Good for you OP.
Good people have died for our Fourth Amendment Right and we should all exercise it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:32:20 AM EDT
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They are welcome to get some magic dog, but they cannot extend the stop to do so.
US v Place |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:38:31 AM EDT
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where at? NY on 17 North..... 17 is east west. You mean 16? What county and what was the trooper's name? I know LOTS of them. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:51:56 PM EDT
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Fucking asshole cop Who, the OP?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:59:09 PM EDT
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If a "Gun Sniffing Dog" exists - wouldn't they just be tipped off by the officers carrying a firearm?
Seems like a pretty specious "test" |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:00:14 PM EDT
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Seriously??? You're calling out a guy who's been a good member here since '02?! Wow. 
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That happened exactly like that Seriously??? You're calling out a guy who's been a good member here since '02?! Wow.
I wonder what his previous username was? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:23:25 PM EDT
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They are welcome to get some magic dog, but they cannot extend the stop to do so. US v Place Illinois v. Caballes is where you get the time limitations. In that one it dd take 10 minutes from stop to finding the drugs. Also, I want a gun sniffing dog! I've lost more than a couple guns, including a pistol stuck in the lining of a safe for nearly 2 years. Also, it would be great for driving by garage sales. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:28:05 PM EDT
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This is the problem, I can guarantee you empty ammo cans and an empty pelican case is not illegal, when we have to be afraid of driving around with empty boxes its all over, the country is done, might as well roll over. Its sad we have come to this.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! Not poking the bear. Being smart. I have no idea what is legal or illegal in New York (and common sense sure doesn't have much to do with that), so I'd just as soon not have them poking around in my car, either. This is the problem, I can guarantee you empty ammo cans and an empty pelican case is not illegal, when we have to be afraid of driving around with empty boxes its all over, the country is done, might as well roll over. Its sad we have come to this.... I'll bet that those empty cans won't be exactly empty after tying up a canine crew for an hour or two. There will be a round or two "that you just must have missed." You will beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride... |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:32:56 PM EDT
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I was pulled over in MO in 2002 on 44 for "speeding". Trooper had a GSD in the back seat for drug sniffing. I had a new vehicle with temporary plates from Arizona. Factory tinted windows on my SUV and luggage behind the front seats and in the back hatch.
Trooper asked for my paperwork and had me come sit in his vehicle. Started asking me what I had in the vehicle. Told him I was heading to St. Louis to my sister's house and then to family in Michigan. Said I had clothes, a computer and hunting gear. Trooper asked what was in the green nylon duffle bag behind the driver's seat. I told him my dirty clothes. He asked if I was sure it was just clothes? I told him if he wanted to paw through my dirty underwear in the green bag I would get it out of the vehicle for him. Trooper asked me if I was carrying anything else in the vehicle. I told him yes, in the very back I was carrying a couple of AK's and AR's. Is there a problem with that? He told me no, no problem, guns are legal in Missouri. After about 20 minutes of sitting in his car he told me he was letting me go and to slow it down. I then reached for my driver's license and inserted it back into my DOJ credentials holder. The trooper reached for my creds and then lit into me for not giving him my credentials when he first pulled me over. I informed him that if I had done that and it got reported to the agency I worked for at the time I would be put under investigation and I could be terminated from employment. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:44:25 PM EDT
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Should have stopped at the gas station and asked how his "crime call" went....
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:49:30 PM EDT
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I call BS. You didn't mouth. I think you exaggerated the encounter |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:46:45 PM EDT
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I'll bet that those empty cans won't be exactly empty after tying up a canine crew for an hour or two. There will be a round or two "that you just must have missed." You will beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride... The ride for what? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:50:30 PM EDT
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I guess the dog has Monday's off.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:54:16 PM EDT
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If it was an RCMP stop they would have searched regardless.
Good for you OP ! |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 4:55:06 PM EDT
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I was pulled over in MO in 2002 on 44 for "speeding". Trooper had a GSD in the back seat for drug sniffing. I had a new vehicle with temporary plates from Arizona. Factory tinted windows on my SUV and luggage behind the front seats and in the back hatch. Trooper asked for my paperwork and had me come sit in his vehicle. Started asking me what I had in the vehicle. Told him I was heading to St. Louis to my sister's house and then to family in Michigan. Said I had clothes, a computer and hunting gear. Trooper asked what was in the green nylon duffle bag behind the driver's seat. I told him my dirty clothes. He asked if I was sure it was just clothes? I told him if he wanted to paw through my dirty underwear in the green bag I would get it out of the vehicle for him. Trooper asked me if I was carrying anything else in the vehicle. I told him yes, in the very back I was carrying a couple of AK's and AR's. Is there a problem with that? He told me no, no problem, guns are legal in Missouri. After about 20 minutes of sitting in his car he told me he was letting me go and to slow it down. I then reached for my driver's license and inserted it back into my DOJ credentials holder. The trooper reached for my creds and then lit into me for not giving him my credentials when he first pulled me over. I informed him that if I had done that and it got reported to the agency I worked for at the time I would be put under investigation and I could be terminated from employment. Knew a guy that happened to. Got pulled over on the way to work. Didn't have his DL on him so the Trooper asked for another form of ID. Guy gives him his creds to verify his identity. Trooper verifies he has a DL on the computer and permitted to be on his way. Couple days later he is giving a statement to OIG and investigated for "flashing his creds." Turns out the Trooper called his boss. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:51:32 PM EDT
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But he was dying to get in those cans. This strikes me as comical. Of course, I have a very juvenile sense of humor, at times. "CANS! LET ME SEE YOUR CANS!" |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:24:11 AM EDT
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Couple days later he is giving a statement to OIG and investigated for "flashing his creds." Turns out the Trooper called his boss. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2U3suqfWRz8/0.jpg Yeah, but a number of members here have stated before when I told the story previously that I was using the credentials to get out of a ticket. Last thing you want to do when working for any government agency. Made too much money to lose a job over a ticket. I have been pulled over many times in my life, gotten very few tickets. If I was speeding I admit it, most police officers will give you a warning. Did get a ticket once when pulled over by an officer sitting outside the hotel I and about 50 other employees were staying at in South Dakota for a month once. My violation, according to the officer when he handed me a ticket for not stopping at a stop sign I had stopped at? "I worked for those motherf**ckers that didn't hire him." We had 50 openings at the place we were activating and over 3,000 people applied for the jobs. We were selective in our hiring, most new hires had college degrees. I was out $200.00 but his mistake was that I was then shortly afterwards appointed to sit on the interview board for those applying for employment. He never got an interview for future openings. I had one of his co-workers from the local police station let him know his stunt got his paperwork shit-canned. The paperwork was current for 1 year from application, I was there for 4 years and made sure he wasn't getting hired. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:37:39 AM EDT
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gun sniffing dog? 
#JBT We've used our bomb dog to locate handguns tossed out in fields. It's not the guns theyre sensing. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:55:35 AM EDT
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i guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! fpni i guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. As I saw posted in another gun forum years ago ......"flash Masterbadge and all is well among friends". |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:05:21 AM EDT
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You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the cops have gun sniffing dogs. lol Are the cops carrying guns when they are running the dog? The only "gun sniffing" dogs I have heard of are game warden dogs that look for spent shell casings, but can find guns also. Never heard of anyone else having them because sniffing guns doesn't generate revenues for departments like sniffing drugs. You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. 
Dogs search a targeted area. We've used our dogs to help locate tossed firearms many times. Funny we all had weapons but the dog did his job. Most bomb dogs can detect smokeless powder along with lots of other explosive compositions. Hmmmm wonder what's in bullets? |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:11:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: depends on the state. Most cops I know in AZ would not enforce them. (there's always going to be a few who would) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't worry. Those cops won't enforce those unconstitutional laws. depends on the state. Most cops I know in AZ would not enforce them. (there's always going to be a few who would) I would.... . . ask if I could shoot with him the next time he was at the range....
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:18:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poking the bear behind enemy lines, you have brass one sir!!! |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 4:24:54 AM EDT
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Whereabouts in NY? Orange County/near Middletown, or further north?
The NYSP in Orange has a pretty well deserved reputation for being flaming dicks...thankfully my interaction with them was limited. 17 is huge though, so there's lots of areas you could be talking about...I'd be surprised if you were treated like that further north, but the NYSP is it's own thing... |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 5:20:28 AM EDT
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fpni I guess you guys missed the part where he showed his retired LE credentials. That's a big deal. especially on the East Coast. Good job sticking up for the 4th, but he's operating under an entirely different set of rules. This. That. And like this and uh. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 5:56:36 AM EDT
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Keep telling yourselves police are there for your protection and not your oppression
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Posted: 10/21/2014 5:59:57 AM EDT
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The US Supreme Court says you cannot be detained beyond a reasonable time for the traffic stop to conclude to wait for the dog.
It's the cops' job to get the dog there quickly, not yours to wait. Kharn |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 6:34:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but a number of members here have stated before when I told the story previously that I was using the credentials to get out of a ticket. Last thing you want to do when working for any government agency. Made too much money to lose a job over a ticket. I have been pulled over many times in my life, gotten very few tickets. If I was speeding I admit it, most police officers will give you a warning. Did get a ticket once when pulled over by an officer sitting outside the hotel I and about 50 other employees were staying at in South Dakota for a month once. My violation, according to the officer when he handed me a ticket for not stopping at a stop sign I had stopped at? "I worked for those motherf**ckers that didn't hire him." We had 50 openings at the place we were activating and over 3,000 people applied for the jobs. We were selective in our hiring, most new hires had college degrees. I was out $200.00 but his mistake was that I was then shortly afterwards appointed to sit on the interview board for those applying for employment. He never got an interview for future openings. I had one of his co-workers from the local police station let him know his stunt got his paperwork shit-canned. The paperwork was current for 1 year from application, I was there for 4 years and made sure he wasn't getting hired. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Couple days later he is giving a statement to OIG and investigated for "flashing his creds." Turns out the Trooper called his boss. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2U3suqfWRz8/0.jpg Yeah, but a number of members here have stated before when I told the story previously that I was using the credentials to get out of a ticket. Last thing you want to do when working for any government agency. Made too much money to lose a job over a ticket. I have been pulled over many times in my life, gotten very few tickets. If I was speeding I admit it, most police officers will give you a warning. Did get a ticket once when pulled over by an officer sitting outside the hotel I and about 50 other employees were staying at in South Dakota for a month once. My violation, according to the officer when he handed me a ticket for not stopping at a stop sign I had stopped at? "I worked for those motherf**ckers that didn't hire him." We had 50 openings at the place we were activating and over 3,000 people applied for the jobs. We were selective in our hiring, most new hires had college degrees. I was out $200.00 but his mistake was that I was then shortly afterwards appointed to sit on the interview board for those applying for employment. He never got an interview for future openings. I had one of his co-workers from the local police station let him know his stunt got his paperwork shit-canned. The paperwork was current for 1 year from application, I was there for 4 years and made sure he wasn't getting hired. I love this story. Not because it happened to a cop, but because it happened to a petty douchebag. |
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Posted: 10/21/2014 8:48:38 AM EDT
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After about 20 minutes of sitting in his car he told me he was letting me go and to slow it down. I then reached for my driver's license and inserted it back into my DOJ credentials holder. The trooper reached for my creds and then lit into me for not giving him my credentials when he first pulled me over. I informed him that if I had done that and it got reported to the agency I worked for at the time I would be put under investigation and I could be terminated from employment. Why? You're not allowed to visit family? |
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