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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:23:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:24:57 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:25:15 PM EDT
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GOOD The only sad part is that they got to live their lives out in peace.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:26:50 PM EDT
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By the time these people were rounded up, extradited, whatever, and met a trial they'd be dead or near death. I understand the nature of what the Wiesenthal center does and represents, but to punish a most likely senile elderly person isn't really gaining any justice. They should have pursued this decades ago. Dunno.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:27:13 PM EDT
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Justice overlooks a lot, but this is one crime that should not be forgotten or overlooked.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:28:00 PM EDT
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"Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." it is.................... 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:28:22 PM EDT
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:29:41 PM EDT
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these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:30:15 PM EDT
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"What's the point?"
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:30:51 PM EDT
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Disclaimer, I'm jewish come from survivors.
Part of me says "jeez what could they do now?" The 0ther 99% of me says "why the f should they get a peaceful death. it's not revenge, it's justice. our revenge will come after they pass, believe it. Justice is as best a trial as we can do, and due process. etc." |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:31:16 PM EDT
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The last dying gasps of an organsation that time is about to render obsolete.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:31:29 PM EDT
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The German .gov should just tell them "You want them then fine, you go find them and get back to us."
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:32:04 PM EDT
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these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. So now bringing people to justice for crimes against humanity is called revenge?
So what do you determine a crime cutoff time should be? I'm really curious to know this idea of yours. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:32:22 PM EDT
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these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. +1 A day late and a dollar short. The Allies had their chance to take care of them after the war. Many SS were actually recruited by the U.S. to help fight the Soviets. People like Wernher von Braun had their past completely white-washed. Now they want to prosecute people that were 18 or 19 when these crimes were committed? How about the U.S. goes after Japanese war criminals. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:32:26 PM EDT
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I think they have officially crossed the line into wasting money and resources
If they haven't got those people after all of these years, they have gotten away with it, face it Although I do wonder how many our govt helped
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:32:31 PM EDT
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:34:35 PM EDT
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So now bringing people to justice for crimes against humanity is called revenge?
So what do you determine a crime cutoff time should be? I'm really curious to know this idea of yours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. So now bringing people to justice for crimes against humanity is called revenge?
So what do you determine a crime cutoff time should be? I'm really curious to know this idea of yours. Thanks, now I know you don't believe in fair trails for those accused. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:34:46 PM EDT
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+1 The only sad part is that they got to live their lives out in peace.
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GOOD The only sad part is that they got to live their lives out in peace.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:35:41 PM EDT
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these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. That is about my take on it. It's a misappropriation of government resources to go hunting for 90 year olds and then have the trial end with what will most likely be a kangaroo court. I would love to know if the Japanese war criminals are hunted with the same fervor. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:35:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:38:05 PM EDT
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe All the while Obama won't go after a real threat like ISIS. They are the present-day Nazis and a much greater threat to Jews and the rest of humanity. #NeverAgain Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is about my take on it. It's a misappropriation of government resources to go hunting for 90 year olds and then have the trial end with what will most likely be a kangaroo court. I would love to know if the Japanese war criminals are hunted with the same fervor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. That is about my take on it. It's a misappropriation of government resources to go hunting for 90 year olds and then have the trial end with what will most likely be a kangaroo court. I would love to know if the Japanese war criminals are hunted with the same fervor. They weren't. Many Americans were upset by this. We didn't do shit to the Japanese because it would have RUINED them. Had we been as aggressive with the Japanese as we had been with the Germans, I highly doubt they would be much better off than North Korea is today. What those people didn't understand was that the society and culture that they existed in was so far removed from Western society that they would have imploded and hated us for 1000's of years (not an exaggeration). In reference to the article. They're shitbags - but give it a rest. It's been 60+ years. How the fuck do you even find a witness? I understand the sentiment they have - but dragging a 90+ year old man (who may be innocent!) out of his home isn't gonna fix the Holocaust. It happened, it sucked. We did the best we could at the time. We prosecuted everyone we could and pardoned the rest. With the way some of these groups act, I'm surprised they don't want to gas the kids of these people - after all they are just as guilty because they never turned "dad" or "grandad" or "great grandad" or "great great grandad" in for being in Germany in the 40's. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:49:18 PM EDT
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I think they have officially crossed the line into wasting money and resources If they haven't got those people after all of these years, they have gotten away with it, face it Although I do wonder how many our govt helped Or the Soviets, the E.G. Strasi, and even the W. German .gov. The current German .gov would be better off letting sleeping dogs lie. Give them lip service but do nothing, time will take care of the problem. How much you want to bet the S.W. Revenge Center will then start going after long dead Nazis. 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:49:28 PM EDT
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I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:50:30 PM EDT
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Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. These are people who had no problem pulling 80 and 90 year olds out of their homes, dragging them into fields and shooting them. I have no problem with someone returning the favor. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:50:44 PM EDT
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hunt them, hound them, give them no peace until the grave, regardless of age..
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:52:20 PM EDT
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Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. nazis everywhere thank you, after all it was just jewish men women, children and babies....
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:53:16 PM EDT
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these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. I'm okay with revenge in this situation. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:59:39 PM EDT
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If there is any still alive, get them.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:01:07 PM EDT
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I could only get through about 45 minutes of the first one, but will watch them both fully.
No mercy for those involved... too bad the civilians that took part have been able to walk.... 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:02:00 PM EDT
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Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. I'm not delusional, I didn't say it would stop anything. I only pointed out what I believe the intent is. I have no problem with trying 90 year old man for having a role in an attempted extermination. Just following orders doesn't cut it. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:03:24 PM EDT
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What comes after they die isnt so pleasant though
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+1 The only sad part is that they got to live their lives out in peace.
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GOOD The only sad part is that they got to live their lives out in peace.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:04:29 PM EDT
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The last dying gasps of an organsation that time is about to render obsolete. Nobody likes you. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:05:29 PM EDT
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These are people who had no problem pulling 80 and 90 year olds out of their homes, dragging them into fields and shooting them. I have no problem with someone returning the favor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. These are people who had no problem pulling 80 and 90 year olds out of their homes, dragging them into fields and shooting them. I have no problem with someone returning the favor. But not everyone who served in the armed forces of Germany was guilty of war crimes. Some of the comments here are pretty ironic. The same people would bitch about militarization of the police, cry unconstitutional when gun legislation is proposes or cite 4th amendment protections against unwarranted NSA surveillance. But the minute someone is merely accused (key word) of war crimes 70 years ago they are guilty. Mention 'nazi' and it invokes a strong emotional response. That is called brainwashing. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:07:09 PM EDT
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Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. The Simon Wiesenthal Center has turned in to a totally delusional organization. Fact of the matter is they have become, what they hate. They have become the CURRENT Nazi's. Holy fuck, time to let it go. Yes those people were monsters. But I don't see anyone hunting down. All of the other monsters out in the world. That have committed genocide on other populations since WW11. Why is that?
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:07:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:07:25 PM EDT
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Seems odd that there is the resurgence this late in the game. Disappointed they couldn't catch them before they lived long lives. Damn.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:08:42 PM EDT
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews They just figured this out? Why wasn't this pursued decades ago? I am all for justice but realistically, I think it is getting to be a little late in the game. How could it possibly take this long to develop this information? |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But not everyone who served in the armed forces of Germany was guilty of war crimes. Some of the comments here are pretty ironic. The same people would bitch about militarization of the police, cry unconstitutional when gun legislation is proposes or cite 4th amendment protections against unwarranted NSA surveillance. But the minute someone is merely accused (key word) of war crimes 70 years ago they are guilty. Mention 'nazi' and it invokes a strong emotional response. That is called brainwashing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. Exactly...the last paragraph says all. Time is running out? No shit theyre old as fuck and about to die. Lot more good you can do for the world than chasing down 90 year olds. These are people who had no problem pulling 80 and 90 year olds out of their homes, dragging them into fields and shooting them. I have no problem with someone returning the favor. But not everyone who served in the armed forces of Germany was guilty of war crimes. Some of the comments here are pretty ironic. The same people would bitch about militarization of the police, cry unconstitutional when gun legislation is proposes or cite 4th amendment protections against unwarranted NSA surveillance. But the minute someone is merely accused (key word) of war crimes 70 years ago they are guilty. Mention 'nazi' and it invokes a strong emotional response. That is called brainwashing. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:08:53 PM EDT
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Seems time and resources would be better spent chasing down people who are actively hurting and killing people.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:09:51 PM EDT
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Will they still be desperately seeking 115-year-old former Nazis in 20 years?
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:10:45 PM EDT
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The last dying gasps of an organsation that time is about to render obsolete. yup.... |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:13:04 PM EDT
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"All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said." I wonder what are the odds of these 80 surviving the war and still alive? They would be a little younger than my Grandparents were and they are all deceased. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:13:19 PM EDT
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hunt them, hound them, give them no peace until the grave, regardless of age.. I just finished a book written by one of the Jewish survivors/escapees of the Sorbibor concentration camp. He grew up in a small town in Poland that had a population of about 5,000 Jews before the war. By the end of the war, only 15 were still alive. Old Jews didn't get a persecution exemption from the Nazis. Old Nazis should not get a prosecution exemption. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hunt them, hound them, give them no peace until the grave, regardless of age.. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:13:53 PM EDT
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The Simon Wiesenthal Center has turned in to a totally delusional organization. Fact of the matter is they have become, what they hate. They have become the CURRENT Nazi's. Holy fuck, time to let it go. Yes those people were monsters. But I don't see anyone hunting down. All of the other monsters out in the world. That have committed genocide on other populations since WW11. Why is that?
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Glad to see resources being spent on 90 year old war criminals. Once they are captured I will finally be able to sleep at night knowing the streets are safe I think the intent is to make it very clear that those who would attempt such genocide will be forever hunted like the animals they are. If you think it couldn't happen again, you are very short sighted. Plenty of genocide in the world post WW2, some of it even going on today. If you think dragging a 90 year old man out of a retirement home and into a court room for crimes committed 70 years ago will make the world a better place than your delusional. The Simon Wiesenthal Center has turned in to a totally delusional organization. Fact of the matter is they have become, what they hate. They have become the CURRENT Nazi's. Holy fuck, time to let it go. Yes those people were monsters. But I don't see anyone hunting down. All of the other monsters out in the world. That have committed genocide on other populations since WW11. Why is that?
Good point. " he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen" Oh look, he has a list of 'names' that may have committed a crime and he wants the gov't to lock them up. Sounds familiar eh?. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:15:58 PM EDT
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+1 A day late and a dollar short. The Allies had their chance to take care of them after the war. Many SS were actually recruited by the U.S. to help fight the Soviets. People like Wernher von Braun had their past completely white-washed. Now they want to prosecute people that were 18 or 19 when these crimes were committed? How about the U.S. goes after Japanese war criminals. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. +1 A day late and a dollar short. The Allies had their chance to take care of them after the war. Many SS were actually recruited by the U.S. to help fight the Soviets. People like Wernher von Braun had their past completely white-washed. Now they want to prosecute people that were 18 or 19 when these crimes were committed? How about the U.S. goes after Japanese war criminals. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:19:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. +1 A day late and a dollar short. The Allies had their chance to take care of them after the war. Many SS were actually recruited by the U.S. to help fight the Soviets. People like Wernher von Braun had their past completely white-washed. Now they want to prosecute people that were 18 or 19 when these crimes were committed? How about the U.S. goes after Japanese war criminals. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This. You don't want to open that can of worms.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:22:12 PM EDT
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BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center has identified dozens of former members of Nazi mobile death squads who might still be alive, and is pushing the German government for an investigation, The Associated Press has learned. The Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter, Efraim Zuroff, told the AP on Wednesday that in September he sent the German justice and interior ministries a list of 76 men and four women who served in the so-called Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen, made up of primarily SS and police personnel, followed Nazi Germany's troops as they battled their way eastward in the early years of the war, rounding up and shooting Jews in the opening salvo of the Holocaust before the death camp system was up and running. According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, they had killed more than a million Soviet Jews and tens of thousands of others by spring 1943. Zuroff narrowed down the list of possible suspects by choosing the youngest from a list of some 1,100 with dates of birth known to his organization, from the estimated 3,000 members of the death squads. All 80 would be very old if still alive, born between 1920 and 1924, Zuroff said. "Time is running out," he said in a telephone interview from Jerusalem. "Something has to be done." http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/01/apnewsbreak-wiesenthal-center-pushes-germany-for-new-probe-nazi-mobile-death/?intcmp=latestnews these people need to give it a rest. Even if someone is accused how in the hell could they receive a fair trial when witnesses they could call in their defense are likely deceased. They want revenge, not justice. +1 A day late and a dollar short. The Allies had their chance to take care of them after the war. Many SS were actually recruited by the U.S. to help fight the Soviets. People like Wernher von Braun had their past completely white-washed. Now they want to prosecute people that were 18 or 19 when these crimes were committed? How about the U.S. goes after Japanese war criminals. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This. You don't want to open that can of worms. Why not? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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