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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:12:30 PM EDT
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ACs in CA used to have three man crews. A driver, the armed courier and his escort. All three carried guns. Then the AC companies got cheap and cut out the escort. Back in the '90s we were having AC guards bumped off left and right. The worse was when one guard (a felon) killed his coworker for the loot. He was caught.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:19:58 PM EDT
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Prayers out. That really seems like a job that would attract lots of trouble.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:32:34 PM EDT
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So the guy had no access to any money even?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:37:05 PM EDT
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Bond hill area......freakin war zone
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:41:37 PM EDT
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So the guy had no access to any money even? Yes , Diebold usually just is there to repair the machine . |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:42:45 PM EDT
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What a damn shame.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the guy had no access to any money even? Years ago, I worked for an ATM company. We filled the machines with money and collected the deposits. We would also fix paper jams and other faults that didn't require an actual ATM repairman. All our two person teams were armed. If an ATM needed repair, we would either meet with a Diebold tech at the ATM or remove the money and return it when the repair was complete. The Diebold techs were unarmed and never had access to any money in the machines. This guy was killed for money that wasn't ever available to him or the murderer. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:47:19 PM EDT
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That's not an armored van, that's the van that goes around fixing ATM's.
Still sad though. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:54:16 PM EDT
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Bond hill area......freakin war zone Worked in that area for about six years real shit hole. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:54:45 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed.
He was a good friend and coworker. He was the type of guy you rarely saw in a bad mood. This was in an FSA infested neighborhood. I'm not taking this well. Also, qfast817, you think you could delete your post content? No need to put more folks at risk. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Years ago, I worked for an ATM company. We filled the machines with money and collected the deposits. We would also fix paper jams and other faults that didn't require an actual ATM repairman. All our two person teams were armed. If an ATM needed repair, we would either meet with a Diebold tech at the ATM or remove the money and return it when the repair was complete. The Diebold techs were unarmed and never had access to any money in the machines. This guy was killed for money that wasn't ever available to him or the murderer.
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So the guy had no access to any money even? Years ago, I worked for an ATM company. We filled the machines with money and collected the deposits. We would also fix paper jams and other faults that didn't require an actual ATM repairman. All our two person teams were armed. If an ATM needed repair, we would either meet with a Diebold tech at the ATM or remove the money and return it when the repair was complete. The Diebold techs were unarmed and never had access to any money in the machines. This guy was killed for money that wasn't ever available to him or the murderer.
RIP
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:57:19 PM EDT
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Yep, not worth the 10-12 bucks an hr....
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:58:44 PM EDT
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Worked in that area for about six years real shit hole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bond hill area......freakin war zone Worked in that area for about six years real shit hole. Situational awareness, don't go into bad areas, etc., etc. - right up to the point your job dictates you do it.... I would no more go into that neighborhood or many others without all my guards up and eyes scanning. Concentrate on a task with the perception of vermin that $$ are at hand and you are a target. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:59:14 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed. I'm sorry for your loss.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:59:25 PM EDT
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Yep, not worth the 10-12 bucks an hr.... We make considerably more than that but not enough for the risk we have to deal with like this. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:00:42 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed. I'm sorry for your loss. Thanks man. I just had lunch with the guy last week. I'm still in shock over everything. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:02:41 PM EDT
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Worked in that area for about six years real shit hole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bond hill area......freakin war zone Worked in that area for about six years real shit hole. I located utilities for three years in that hood. Nothing like a nice water main break at 2AM on a Saturday in the summer |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:27:26 PM EDT
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Ryan_Ruck, my deepest condolences.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:30:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bond hill area......freakin war zone |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:33:27 PM EDT
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Damn that sucks.
I am also a ATM tech and company policy is no weapons. -snip-
ETA- my condolences, ryan
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:38:05 PM EDT
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Ryan_Ruck, my deepest condolences. Thank you. As hard as it's been on me I can't begin to imagine his surviving family. One of my team's guys was supposed to be at that site as well but got there after everything went down. I just wish to God I had been the one with the call instead of the the tech on my team that had it. I might have been able to do something and things might have turned out a lot differently. Local news is reporting this was an ambush. Not surprised as the original service call was for vandalism to the ATM, likely to lure a tech to the site. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:40:52 PM EDT
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Thank you. As hard as it's been on me I can't begin to imagine his surviving family. One of my team's guys was supposed to be at that site as well but got there after everything went down. I just wish to God I had been the one with the call instead of the the tech on my team that had it. I might have been able to do something and things might have turned out a lot differently. Local news is reporting this was an ambush. Not surprised as the original service call was for vandalism to the ATM, likely to lure a tech to the site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ryan_Ruck, my deepest condolences. Thank you. As hard as it's been on me I can't begin to imagine his surviving family. One of my team's guys was supposed to be at that site as well but got there after everything went down. I just wish to God I had been the one with the call instead of the the tech on my team that had it. I might have been able to do something and things might have turned out a lot differently. Local news is reporting this was an ambush. Not surprised as the original service call was for vandalism to the ATM, likely to lure a tech to the site. Condolences to you and the family.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:45:47 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed. He was a good friend and coworker. He was the type of guy you rarely saw in a bad mood. This was in an FSA infested neighborhood. I'm not taking this well. Also, qfast817, you think you could delete your post content? No need to put more folks at risk. Damn. I'm really sorry, man.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:50:59 PM EDT
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Thanks again for the condolences all.
I guess it's official now. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/police-person-fatally-shot-at-pnc-atm-machine-on-reading-road 
RIP Dan.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:15:18 PM EDT
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Sorry for your loss Ryan, stay safe bro.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:26:52 PM EDT
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I used to do security alarm work and in certain "hoods" i would catch hell or they would screw with the truck.
I never stayed around after 2:30 if i could help it. I also had a 45, not that i was offering that info when i worked for them. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:19:38 AM EDT
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God have Mercy. The Muscarellas are friends of mine. I've been shooting with Dan and his kids.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:22:10 AM EDT
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I know a real good guy that works for them and he carries.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:54:31 PM EDT
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Looks like they got the asshole. Too bad he was taken alive.
One Arrested In Roselawn ATM Homicide 
Authorities arrested 36-year-old Yonah Israel Wednesday for the shooting death of Daniel Muscarella. "(He had) no assistance, at this point we believe Israel is solely responsible fore the death of Mr. Muscarella," said Cincinnati Police Captain Elliot Issac. Muscarella was working on the machine in the 7100 block of Reading Road just after 1:10 p.m. when he was shot multiple times. Muscarella was pronounced dead at the scene. Issac said a verbal altercation between Muscarella and Israel took place before the shooting. He added Israel has an extensive criminal record reflecting drug use and violence. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:59:32 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed. He was a good friend and coworker. He was the type of guy you rarely saw in a bad mood. This was in an FSA infested neighborhood. I'm not taking this well. Also, qfast817, you think you could delete your post content? No need to put more folks at risk. Condolences on the loss of your friend.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:00:44 PM EDT
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God have Mercy. The Muscarellas are friends of mine. I've been shooting with Dan and his kids. Condolences go out to you on this terrible loss.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:03:50 PM EDT
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Unreal
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:05:32 PM EDT
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I know the guy shot and killed. He was a good friend and coworker. He was the type of guy you rarely saw in a bad mood. This was in an FSA infested neighborhood. I'm not taking this well. Also, qfast817, you think you could delete your post content? No need to put more folks at risk. Please accept the condolences from everyone at Gator Farm Tactical. Our advanced tactical instructor who is a member here is a armed security person for one of the organizations. We pray for all of you. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:10:19 PM EDT
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By the way, if you read any reports about police brass or Cincinnati politicians thanking the community for help in apprehending Israel (like the article I linked above), take it for a big grain of salt.
I have it from a very reliable source who was on scene immediately after that there were a number of the locals standing against the police tape taunting the police saying things like, "That should have been you pigs." That's the type of neighborhood this is. |
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