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There is just something awesome about a whole gaggle of utility helicopters flying in close formation, coming in together, landing in a field and inserting massive numbers of troops and pieces of equipment into the LZ, all under the watchful eye of the escort gunships. The same tactics developed by the legendary 1st Cav in the 1960s remain basically unchanged. The helicopters have just become more powerful, more lethal and more capable. Air mobility is cool. As useful as a unit like the 101st is, you'd think the Army would like to have another similarly equipped and trained division. There's just something awesome about a unit possessing enough airlift assets to basically move an entire brigade into battle at once. http://youtu.be/t1BC3igse50 View Quote |
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[#4]
There are quite a few Infantry brigades with the same capability. It's not just the 101st DIV.
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[#6]
By the way, does anyone know what unit in the 101st is doing this?
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[#7]
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There are quite a few Infantry brigades with the same capability. It's not just the 101st DIV. View Quote Yeah even in the national guard, 79th IBCT has been doing large scaled air assaults for its infantry battalions for the last couple years each AT. All you need is helicopters and dudes to put in the back of them. |
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That was a fascinating video, thanks for posting it
My mind couldn't help but wander while watching, and I wondered how the Brits would have reacted if that force had shown up during an engagement such as ... oh, I don't know ... the Battle of Falkirk in 1298 |
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[#10]
Back in '00 we did the largest air assault in the western hemisphere for a training exercise. My platoon was assigned security for the offset artillery so missed the majority of the action but just seeing all the men and equipment staged was pretty impressive.
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[#11]
Saw them on my way home from work today. West Tn.
Eta: never mind video was not showing up for some reason. |
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[#13]
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There are quite a few Infantry brigades with the same capability. It's not just the 101st DIV. View Quote But only the 101st actually possesses the sort of self contained air assets to do it on a large scale without external support. No other type of infantry division can come close to touching the 101st in terms of available air assets. |
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[#14]
Had one nighttime assault into the back 40 plagued with problems the whole way. Being 11H we would strap two gun trucks together and sling them under a Chinook.
Halfway to the DZ my buddies truck got dropped out by Cav Country. The trucks weren't too bad off but my buddy who is 5'2" could look at you across the roof. The rest of us ended landing in the wrong DZ which had a fully grown corn crop in it. Nothing like landing and seeing corn stalks come up through the hell hole. Good times. |
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[#17]
Just think you could replace all those Blackhawks with just a few Chinooks.
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[#18]
Is this what they're doing instead of parachuting in nowadays?
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[#21]
I like reading the book, "Chickenhawk" in my deer blind.
No matter how pretty it looks, as soon as it is put in to motion and the bullets start flying, it makes you wonder if *maybe* there might be a better way to do this. TRG |
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[#24]
Air Assaults are fun to watch as long as there is no one on the ground to repel the invasion. This is the reason that parachute assault is a thing of the past.
This is the reason the Marine Corps shit caned the idea in 1944. |
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[#26]
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Air Assaults are fun to watch as long as there is no one on the ground to repel the invasion. This is the reason that parachute assault is a thing of the past. This is the reason the Marine Corps shit caned the idea in 1944. View Quote Landing on a hostile DZ certainly contains risk. Kind of like an amphibious assault against a hardened beach. |
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[#27]
If that was the one that occurred a few months ago, I'm good friends with the guy that planned it. He still bitches about how much work it was! |
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[#28]
Air assaults look a lot cooler and more bad ass when they're unopposed.
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[#29]
"We'll come in low out of the rising sun. About a mile out, we'll put on the music."
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[#32]
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And one particular Brigade seems to be the Army's choice when it comes time to assault a hostile LZ. Don't they, my brother? They got the chances to do it during Desert Storm, Operation Anaconda, and the opening drive of OIF. http://www.inkace.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/8/187th_rakkasan_tori_symbol.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Air Assaults are fun to watch as long as there is no one on the ground to repel the invasion. This is the reason that parachute assault is a thing of the past. This is the reason the Marine Corps shit caned the idea in 1944. Landing on a hostile DZ certainly contains risk. Kind of like an amphibious assault against a hardened beach. And one particular Brigade seems to be the Army's choice when it comes time to assault a hostile LZ. Don't they, my brother? They got the chances to do it during Desert Storm, Operation Anaconda, and the opening drive of OIF. http://www.inkace.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/8/187th_rakkasan_tori_symbol.jpg Yup. Watched another vid and saw they have CROWS and uparmored Humvees now, no shotgun loads swaying underneath a Chinook. Don't know if I'd like that better than a thin skin and hanging out the top. |
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[#33]
Quoted: Had one nighttime assault into the back 40 plagued with problems the whole way. Being 11H we would strap two gun trucks together and sling them under a Chinook. Halfway to the DZ my buddies truck got dropped out by Cav Country. The trucks weren't too bad off but my buddy who is 5'2" could look at you across the roof. The rest of us ended landing in the wrong DZ which had a fully grown corn crop in it. Nothing like landing and seeing corn stalks come up through the hell hole. Good times. View Quote My company developed the tandem hookup in 1986-1987...D 2/327th Infantry
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[#34]
I have to admit I chuckled at the porta potties and the hand washing station.
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[#35]
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My company developed the tandem hookup in 1986-1987...D 2/327th Infantry View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Had one nighttime assault into the back 40 plagued with problems the whole way. Being 11H we would strap two gun trucks together and sling them under a Chinook. Halfway to the DZ my buddies truck got dropped out by Cav Country. The trucks weren't too bad off but my buddy who is 5'2" could look at you across the roof. The rest of us ended landing in the wrong DZ which had a fully grown corn crop in it. Nothing like landing and seeing corn stalks come up through the hell hole. Good times. My company developed the tandem hookup in 1986-1987...D 2/327th Infantry I don't know if I would claim ownership of something like that. |
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[#36]
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Yup. Watched another vid and saw they have CROWS and uparmored Humvees now, no shotgun loads swaying underneath a Chinook. Don't know if I'd like that better than a thin skin and hanging out the top. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Air Assaults are fun to watch as long as there is no one on the ground to repel the invasion. This is the reason that parachute assault is a thing of the past. This is the reason the Marine Corps shit caned the idea in 1944. Landing on a hostile DZ certainly contains risk. Kind of like an amphibious assault against a hardened beach. And one particular Brigade seems to be the Army's choice when it comes time to assault a hostile LZ. Don't they, my brother? They got the chances to do it during Desert Storm, Operation Anaconda, and the opening drive of OIF. http://www.inkace.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/8/187th_rakkasan_tori_symbol.jpg Yup. Watched another vid and saw they have CROWS and uparmored Humvees now, no shotgun loads swaying underneath a Chinook. Don't know if I'd like that better than a thin skin and hanging out the top. When I was in 3/320 S-2, I always got stuck working the Heavy PZ whenever we went to the field. I fucking hated having to climb on top of a TLQ-17 or TRQ-32 in order to hook them up to a Chinook. It always ended up with me getting my k-pot knocked around by the helicopter's tires as the crew chief talked the pilot into position. But, the rotor wash almost lifting you off your feet as you ran away almost made up for it. Then, it was back to hating life as the debris off the ground was whipped into your face when you turned back and took a knee. Fucking grass hurts when two big fans throw it into your skin with that kind of force. |
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[#38]
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Landing on a hostile DZ certainly contains risk. Kind of like an amphibious assault against a hardened beach. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Air Assaults are fun to watch as long as there is no one on the ground to repel the invasion. This is the reason that parachute assault is a thing of the past. This is the reason the Marine Corps shit caned the idea in 1944. Landing on a hostile DZ certainly contains risk. Kind of like an amphibious assault against a hardened beach. They also shit canned that idea during the Korean War and pioneered vertical evolvement. . |
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[#39]
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I have to admit I chuckled at the porta potties and the hand washing station. View Quote During one field problem, one of our gun batteries, A-3/320 FA, was doing an air assault in the Back 40. The BN S-2 decided it would be fun to fuck with Gator Battery, as their XO and he didn't get along very well. After we shot up the two lifts with blanks, we loaded into our truck and headed back to the TOC. As we started driving away, we passed Gator Battery, all lined up on the road next to the LZ. Through our NOD's, we could see something covering their guns and trucks, but weren't sure what it was at first. As we got closer, we lifted our NOD's and got a better look. When the first lift got on the ground, they pulled off the LZ and stopped on the road, waiting for the second lift. When the second lift came in, the rotor wash knocked over a porta-john, blowing piss and shit-filled blue water all over the first lift, to include the battery XO. My S-2 laughed for several minutes and smiled for days. I don't doubt that he never let his nemesis forget about it, either. |
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[#40]
That was okay, but the Porta-Potties at the One minute mark pretty well ruined it for me.Who set those up? Pathfinders?
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[#42]
My son is processing into the 101st as I type this.
I'm rather proud of that boy. |
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[#45]
... "above all, helicopters save lives"
Good to see the armed escorts! |
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[#46]
Noisy as hell while you're hearing: GTFO! Un-Ass The Bird!
It gets awful quiet once they fly away and you're standing in a field. But at least you get to take a piss in peace. |
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[#47]
A TERRORISTS WET DREAM RIGHT THERE.
They have gotten lucky with less birds in the air. Black Hawk Down ,Iraq , Afghanistan . And with the Mega Ton of Missing SAMS in IRAQ and Syria and in General Middle East right now. |
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[#48]
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A TERRORISTS WET DREAM RIGHT THERE. They have gotten lucky with less birds in the air. Black Hawk Down ,Iraq , Afghanistan . And with the Mega Ton of Missing SAMS in IRAQ and Syria and in General Middle East right now. View Quote You do realize a mass air assault doesn't just plop down anywhere they feel like right? That there may be some serious logistics, planning and preparation to make sure the selected DZ allows for an increased chance of survivability for bluefor? |
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A TERRORISTS WET DREAM RIGHT THERE. They have gotten lucky with less birds in the air. Black Hawk Down ,Iraq , Afghanistan . And with the Mega Ton of Missing SAMS in IRAQ and Syria and in General Middle East right now. View Quote I have one acronym for you: SEAD-Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses. Trust me, it is a phase of an air assault for which the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) plans for extensively. You see, the 101st has some really cool toys, like OH-58's and AH-64's, with which they can prep an LZ in the moments before a lift arrives. |
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[#50]
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A TERRORISTS WET DREAM RIGHT THERE. They have gotten lucky with less birds in the air. Black Hawk Down ,Iraq , Afghanistan . And with the Mega Ton of Missing SAMS in IRAQ and Syria and in General Middle East right now. View Quote It was actually learned all the way back during Vietnam that flying in a huge gaggle such as in the above video was actually SAFER than flying single ship missions. For example, during the siege of the Marine base at Khe Sanh, single ship resupply or casevac flights took a frightful degree of fire when coming in/leaving the hilltop outposts surrounding the base. So instead, they started flying these missions using as many aircraft as they could scrounge up. Evidently, seeing a whole swarm of helicopters descend upon you is both mesmerizing and frightening, sometimes to the point you can't focus your attention on a single helicopter. It is just too much for the human brain to take in and quickly react to. Sometimes they would complete these missions without drawing any fire, despite having anywhere from 20,000 to 40,000 hardcore NVA troops in the vicinity. OTOH, if a lone ship flies into a hostile area such as this, every weapon within range zeroes in on it and is brought to bear. Humans. We're weird sometimes. |
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