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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:09:59 PM EDT
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This site is interesting: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Let us only hit the highlights: 1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units 2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system 3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system 4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism 5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems 6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system 7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism 8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle 9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts 10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled. 
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/chevrolet.html http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/ford.html |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:20:38 PM EDT
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GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people. Checkmate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site is interesting: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Let us only hit the highlights: 1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units 2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system 3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system 4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism 5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems 6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system 7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism 8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle 9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts 10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled. GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people. Checkmate. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:21:55 PM EDT
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GM and Toyota both suck. Nissan is where it's at.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:27:58 PM EDT
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Who could have imagined this thread would turn into a pissing match?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:28:00 PM EDT
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I guess I can wait until I get this notice and then take my truck (2008) in for leaf springs and the frame corrosion notice I recently received.
There is a TSB for putting a fourth leaf on the 3 leaf packs if you complain about rough ride with a load, I wonder if they are going to replace them all or just ones that look to be failing? I think I'd rather have the four leaf pack. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:38:12 PM EDT
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Is the first one a 94? 22R-E engine? Its an 89 22RE. Technically not a Tacoma though LOL. Other one is a 2010. I am glad they have me covered if I have leaf spring issues. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:39:36 PM EDT
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GM and Toyota both suck. Nissan is where it's at. Ahh, Toyota is a good product. I'd buy one if..... |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:40:45 PM EDT
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I guess I can wait until I get this notice and then take my truck (2008) in for leaf springs and the frame corrosion notice I recently received. There is a TSB for putting a fourth leaf on the 3 leaf packs if you complain about rough ride with a load, I wonder if they are going to replace them all or just ones that look to be failing? I think I'd rather have the fournon-Toyota leaf pack. BTW, service manual specs 37 ft/lbs on those u-bolts. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:49:12 PM EDT
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Interesting
2 years ago I had the rear leaf springs replaced on one of the fleet trucks, 2007 Tacoma. Tampa Spring installed a custom stack, but the rear of the truck sits up higher than the front. Looks silly as all get out. I replaced the springs after one of our employees decide to haul one of our work trailers (small trailer) and it wore the springs out to the point that the rear was sagging 4-5 inches At least I don't have to drive that truck 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:59:01 PM EDT
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Toyota Announces Voluntary Recall, maybe GM should take some notes.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:02:10 PM EDT
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Did my Frontier that I paid thousands less than a similar Taco get recalled? When did you buy it? I own a Frontier, and the line has had its fair share of problems, most notably with transmissions. Go over to Clubfrontier if you are unfamiliar with the problem. It has created a large headache for many, many owners. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:02:27 PM EDT
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:04:18 PM EDT
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No recalls on my 00 blazer or 04 trailblazer ext. I could care less about the rest.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:05:08 PM EDT
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Did my Frontier that I paid thousands less than a similar Taco get recalled? I dunno, check your resell value to see. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:12:30 PM EDT
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Did my Frontier that I paid thousands less than a similar Taco get recalled? I dunno, check your resell value to see. I don't know if they ever recalled due to this, but they should have. Frontier Recall? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:14:15 PM EDT
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:14:44 PM EDT
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. Midsize trucks getting 16-20 mpg. My 2008 doesnt even have a usb port. It's like it's from the 90's. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:17:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up!
My BIL is out fishing and I am pretty sure his 2010 qualifies. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:19:21 PM EDT
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Interesting 2 years ago I had the rear leaf springs replaced on one of the fleet trucks, 2007 Tacoma. Tampa Spring installed a custom stack, but the rear of the truck sits up higher than the front. Looks silly as all get out. I replaced the springs after one of our employees decide to haul one of our work trailers (small trailer) and it wore the springs out to the point that the rear was sagging 4-5 inches At least I don't have to drive that truck
The Cali lean.... lol |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:30:02 PM EDT
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Toyota's reputation is not based in the reality of their products. Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs. Try again. I see. Then why is Toyota initiating a recall? Why are you dodging your pit thread? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:31:25 PM EDT
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. Easiest way for me to describe it is it's probably pretty easy to have some of the most reliable vehicles when you don't innovate/take chances and all the components are more or less perfected gen 3 or 4 parts vs. other manufacturers. Just look at all their engines, they are older then dirt tech wise. Even their hybrid Prius is meh and it's the same old shit year in year out. There are diesel cars that do just as good and have twice the power. I mean jez, even their flagship engine the 5.7 V8 has been out for eons. Really toyota? Interiors are always 2nd gen vs. Other manufacturers, they seem sorted dated even when it's a brand new car, should be better for thr money. But they keep being rewarded, I wouldn't change things either if I was them. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:33:33 PM EDT
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Easiest way for me to describe it is it's probably pretty easy to have some of the most reliable vehicles when you don't innovate/take chances and all the components are more or less perfected gen 3 or 4 parts vs. other manufacturers. Just look at all their engines, they are older then dirt tech wise. Even their hybrid Prius is meh and it's the same old shit year in year out. There are diesel cars that do just as good and have twice the power. I mean jez, even their flagship engine the 5.7 V8 has been out for eons. Really toyota? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. Easiest way for me to describe it is it's probably pretty easy to have some of the most reliable vehicles when you don't innovate/take chances and all the components are more or less perfected gen 3 or 4 parts vs. other manufacturers. Just look at all their engines, they are older then dirt tech wise. Even their hybrid Prius is meh and it's the same old shit year in year out. There are diesel cars that do just as good and have twice the power. I mean jez, even their flagship engine the 5.7 V8 has been out for eons. Really toyota? What do *most* consumers want, reliability or technological risk taking? Hint, it's rhymes with "reliability" |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:38:47 PM EDT
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What do *most* consumers want, reliability or technological risk taking? Hint, it's rhymes with "reliability" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. Easiest way for me to describe it is it's probably pretty easy to have some of the most reliable vehicles when you don't innovate/take chances and all the components are more or less perfected gen 3 or 4 parts vs. other manufacturers. Just look at all their engines, they are older then dirt tech wise. Even their hybrid Prius is meh and it's the same old shit year in year out. There are diesel cars that do just as good and have twice the power. I mean jez, even their flagship engine the 5.7 V8 has been out for eons. Really toyota? What do *most* consumers want, reliability or technological risk taking? Hint, it's rhymes with "reliability" Again, I wouldn't change the format if I was them, I get it. The end result is people overlook some awesome vehicles all so they can own a car that can be neglected more so then another vehicle make/model. I think that's fucking weird, it's generally the 2nd largest person a person will make. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:39:08 PM EDT
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs. Try again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Toyota's reputation is not based in the reality of their products. Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs. Try again. The ONLY vehicle I ever had repeated leaf spring breakage on was a FJ40 [72"]. While Toyota makes a great drive train, I've never been overly impressed with their steel as it tends to be MUCH more rust prone then US vehicles. One tends to have to take extra steps to protect the steel or they will have far more frame and suspension rust issues. I replaced the leaf springs on my 76" FJ40 due to rust swelling, something I seldom see anymore and that was never driven in the salt/winter. OTOH, my 2008 work van [GMC3500] already has several rust perforations in the hood. My "horrible" Dodge Durango.......you could still eat off the frame and leaves, totally rust free. [thanks LPS3] |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:43:14 PM EDT
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Again, I wouldn't change the format if I was them, I get it. The end result is people overlook some awesome vehicles all so they can own a car that can be neglected more so then another vehicle make/model. I think that's fucking weird, it's generally the 2nd largest person a person will make. I'm not sure your generalization holds much water. I don't think people usually buy reliable cars so they can trash them, they buy reliable cars to reduce the cost of ownership, get more for their money and increase the overall value. Speaking broad brush here. Besides, Toyota's ain't cheep anymore. I think the kind of people who are buying shitbox's to neglect them aren't usually lined up for Camry's and Tacos. Some shitty Kia maybe but not (generally) Toyotas. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:43:49 PM EDT
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He's probably a union guy with a hardon. Plus, I think he's dodging a pit thread right now anyway.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Toyota's reputation is not based in the reality of their products. Yes, I'm old and stupid... ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued. He is dodging a pit thread. His MO is to be contrary for the sake of being contrary. Just ignore him. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:44:18 PM EDT
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Guess I am getting a new rear suspension. sweet. Nice to have a company that will fix things before people die. I'm calling. My nose actually is riding a little high. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:47:42 PM EDT
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Guess I am getting a new rear suspension. sweet. Not me. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:51:43 PM EDT
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Tacomas have had issues with their suspension for a while. My 2010 averaged warranty work every 2000 miles for drivetrain/suspension issues.
Was not impressed with toyota service or all their "master techs". Had all of the TSB's done (one at a time of course....) which included swapping in the heavier duty leaf packs. Go read the tacoma forums, its usually tacked at the top of the page, just be careful the kool-aid is worse then in this thread. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:56:36 PM EDT
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I'm not sure your generalization holds much water. I don't think people usually buy reliable cars so they can trash them, they buy reliable cars to reduce the cost of ownership, get more for their money and increase the overall value. Speaking broad brush here. Besides, Toyota's ain't cheep anymore. I think the kind of people who are buying shitbox's to neglect them aren't usually lined up for Camry's and Tacos. Some shitty Kia maybe but not (generally) Toyotas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Again, I wouldn't change the format if I was them, I get it. The end result is people overlook some awesome vehicles all so they can own a car that can be neglected more so then another vehicle make/model. I think that's fucking weird, it's generally the 2nd largest person a person will make. I'm not sure your generalization holds much water. I don't think people usually buy reliable cars so they can trash them, they buy reliable cars to reduce the cost of ownership, get more for their money and increase the overall value. Speaking broad brush here. Besides, Toyota's ain't cheep anymore. I think the kind of people who are buying shitbox's to neglect them aren't usually lined up for Camry's and Tacos. Some shitty Kia maybe but not (generally) Toyotas. I don't think people take care of their vehicles in general the way you think they do, toyota or not. That's great they hold up to that abuse and all. I hear threads all the time about guys bragging about how LITTLE they've done to their toyota and how they keep on going. Well that's nice, you're proud that you haven't flushed your brake fluid, replaced a worn suspension bushing, got new shocks, replaced accessory belt and idlers etc etc. And yet the vehicles are so sought after but most probably have a high amount of neglect due to the very thing that draws them in. Again, that's great and all they can take that abuse. You guys enjoy.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:59:07 PM EDT
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. But they are reliable because Toyota doesn't change engine designs every 4 years. It's a trade off. I'll be driving my 04 tundra in 10 years unless it gets totaled. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:38:41 PM EDT
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I'm calling. My nose actually is riding a little high. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guess I am getting a new rear suspension. sweet. Nice to have a company that will fix things before people die. I'm calling. My nose actually is riding a little high. Try these. CS047R ARB EMU Dakar Springs 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:47:02 PM EDT
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Midsize trucks getting 16-20 mpg. My 2008 doesnt even have a usb port. It's like it's from the 90's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Such a cutting edge company. Toyota is the only company I know that gets rewarded by consumers for being the least technological. Their products are a snooze fest. Explain please. Midsize trucks getting 16-20 mpg. My 2008 doesnt even have a usb port. It's like it's from the 90's. Ok, you were talking specifically about the Tacoma. I thought you were talking about all of Toyota's vehicles. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:52:36 PM EDT
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You aren't being intellectually honest. How about you tally these up: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/ford.html By the way, there are three Fords in my driveway - and one of them was purchased new four days ago. I come from a Ford family, but to dismiss Toyota quality is ignorant at best. As an employee at a Ford dealership in the nineties I saw a lot of used Toyotas. As an employee at a Toyota Dealership before that I saw a lot more. During the seven years I was in that hellish business I've driven thousands of both in order to establish a trade-in value, and to establish what they need in the shop. The cost of that repair order would dictate not only their final value, but their final destination as well - the retail line or the wholesale auction line. With a good tech at my side we were rarely wrong. As a rule, all used cars need some sort of work - but a used Toyota was less likely to have major powertrain, suspension, or electrical issues than a comparable domestic vehicle. End of story. My opinion isn't based on blind loyalty, but objective observation. Years later nothing in the industry has changed. Why don't I drive a Toyota? Because I have zero romantic attachment to any motor vehicle - the car business did a good job of exorcising that out of me. To me, a car is nothing more than a depreciating piece of shit that will eventually rust out or leak oil in the driveway. When I bought my wife her new car on Saturday she was excited, but to me it was merely a necessary evil - kind of like a colonoscopy. She needed a new car, and that was that. My daughter will get her old one, and I'll keep mine and stubbornly run it into the ground for as long as it will take an inspection sticker. Not that it matters, but I've worked here http://www.portsmouthford.com/ and here http://www.billdube.com/index.htm So, what experience do you base your findings on? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This site is interesting: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Let us only hit the highlights: 1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units 2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system 3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system 4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism 5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems 6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system 7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism 8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle 9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts 10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled. You aren't being intellectually honest. How about you tally these up: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/ford.html By the way, there are three Fords in my driveway - and one of them was purchased new four days ago. I come from a Ford family, but to dismiss Toyota quality is ignorant at best. As an employee at a Ford dealership in the nineties I saw a lot of used Toyotas. As an employee at a Toyota Dealership before that I saw a lot more. During the seven years I was in that hellish business I've driven thousands of both in order to establish a trade-in value, and to establish what they need in the shop. The cost of that repair order would dictate not only their final value, but their final destination as well - the retail line or the wholesale auction line. With a good tech at my side we were rarely wrong. As a rule, all used cars need some sort of work - but a used Toyota was less likely to have major powertrain, suspension, or electrical issues than a comparable domestic vehicle. End of story. My opinion isn't based on blind loyalty, but objective observation. Years later nothing in the industry has changed. Why don't I drive a Toyota? Because I have zero romantic attachment to any motor vehicle - the car business did a good job of exorcising that out of me. To me, a car is nothing more than a depreciating piece of shit that will eventually rust out or leak oil in the driveway. When I bought my wife her new car on Saturday she was excited, but to me it was merely a necessary evil - kind of like a colonoscopy. She needed a new car, and that was that. My daughter will get her old one, and I'll keep mine and stubbornly run it into the ground for as long as it will take an inspection sticker. Not that it matters, but I've worked here http://www.portsmouthford.com/ and here http://www.billdube.com/index.htm So, what experience do you base your findings on? Yes. Let us be intellectually honest. Saying Toyota's reputation is not deserved is not the same as the endorsement for any other car brand. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:54:37 PM EDT
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Hey! GM would have fixed the ignition problem. If the fix would have cost less than the predicted lawsuits. 
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Guess I am getting a new rear suspension. sweet. Nice to have a company that will fix things before people die. Hey! GM would have fixed the ignition problem. If the fix would have cost less than the predicted lawsuits.
Here’s iSeeCars.com’s full list of least and most recalled car lines since 1985, with the given recall rate being relative to sales registered in the U.S. from 1980 forward:
Mercedes-Benz USA: 2.1 million recalled/5.2 million sold; 0.41 recall rate. Mazda Motor Corp: 5.2 million recalled/9.4 million sold; 0.55 recall rate. General Motors: 99.3 million recalled/153.2 million sold; 0.65 recall rate. Nissan North America: 19.1 million recalled/26.8 million sold; 0.71 recall rate. Subaru of America: 4.3 million recalled/6.0 million sold; 0.73 recall rate. Kia Motors: 3.7 million recalled/4.9 million sold; 0.77 recall rate. Toyota Motor Corp: 38.6 million recalled/48.1 million sold; 0.80 recall rate. BMW of North America: 5.1 million recalled/5.7 million sold; 0.90 recall rate. Ford Motor Co: 97.0 million recalled/104.7 million sold; 0.93 recall rate. American Honda Motor Co: 31.1 million recalled/32.9 million sold; 0.94 recall rate. Chrysler Group: 63.2 million recalled/63.2 million sold; 1.00 recall rate. Volvo Cars of North America: 3.3 million recalled/3.1 million sold; 1.05 recall rate. Volkswagen of America: 10.2 million recalled/9.7 million sold; 1.06 recall rate. Mitsubishi Motors North America: 5.3 million recalled/4.8 million sold; 1.09 recall rate. Hyundai Motor Co: 9.9 million recalled/8.7 million sold; 1.15 recall rate. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:55:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:56:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite the find of data Mr.(?) callgood! It would appear you are better off buying a Kia than a Toyota. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Guess I am getting a new rear suspension. sweet. Nice to have a company that will fix things before people die. Hey! GM would have fixed the ignition problem. If the fix would have cost less than the predicted lawsuits. Here’s iSeeCars.com’s full list of least and most recalled car lines since 1985, with the given recall rate being relative to sales registered in the U.S. from 1980 forward: Mercedes-Benz USA: 2.1 million recalled/5.2 million sold; 0.41 recall rate. Mazda Motor Corp: 5.2 million recalled/9.4 million sold; 0.55 recall rate. General Motors: 99.3 million recalled/153.2 million sold; 0.65 recall rate. Nissan North America: 19.1 million recalled/26.8 million sold; 0.71 recall rate. Subaru of America: 4.3 million recalled/6.0 million sold; 0.73 recall rate. Kia Motors: 3.7 million recalled/4.9 million sold; 0.77 recall rate. Toyota Motor Corp: 38.6 million recalled/48.1 million sold; 0.80 recall rate. BMW of North America: 5.1 million recalled/5.7 million sold; 0.90 recall rate. Ford Motor Co: 97.0 million recalled/104.7 million sold; 0.93 recall rate. American Honda Motor Co: 31.1 million recalled/32.9 million sold; 0.94 recall rate. Chrysler Group: 63.2 million recalled/63.2 million sold; 1.00 recall rate. Volvo Cars of North America: 3.3 million recalled/3.1 million sold; 1.05 recall rate. Volkswagen of America: 10.2 million recalled/9.7 million sold; 1.06 recall rate. Mitsubishi Motors North America: 5.3 million recalled/4.8 million sold; 1.09 recall rate. Hyundai Motor Co: 9.9 million recalled/8.7 million sold; 1.15 recall rate. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:56:49 PM EDT
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This site is interesting: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Let us only hit the highlights: 1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units 2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system 3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system 4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism 5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems 6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system 7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism 8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle 9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts 10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled. In fairness, the air bag issues were tied back to the supplier whom also supplied airbags to a number of large manufacturers like Ford, GM, Honda, Mazda etc, etc Thank you for reinforcing my point. If Toyota uses the same sub-par subcontractors, their reputation is not well-deserved. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:27:36 PM EDT
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Insurance adjuster here locally wishes they would recall his for faulty U joints as one of them went bad last year.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:30:42 PM EDT
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Had a customer who left Texas in his Camry with 499,000 on the clock headed up the east coast to Canada, across Canada, down the west coast into Mexico and then back up through Texas. He made it back, although he was prepared to fly back from wherever the car kicked the bucket or buy a new car and continue on.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 1:48:07 PM EDT
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I've said it before and I'll say it again; the 09 Tacoma I had was a piece of shit. Worst new vehicle I've ever purchased. I expected a lot more from Toyota.
Low speed transmission shudder, high speed steering wheel flutter, and no payload capacity. Several TSB's done to attempt to correct the problems; never really worked. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:40:40 PM EDT
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I've said it before and I'll say it again; the 09 Tacoma I had was a piece of shit. Worst new vehicle I've ever purchased. I expected a lot more from Toyota. Low speed transmission shudder, high speed steering wheel flutter, and no payload capacity. Several TSB's done to attempt to correct the problems; never really worked. yep, same issues as my 2010. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:48:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for reinforcing my point. If Toyota uses the same sub-par subcontractors, their reputation is not well-deserved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This site is interesting: http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Let us only hit the highlights: 1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units 2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system 3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system 4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism 5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems 6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system 7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism 8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle 9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts 10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled. In fairness, the air bag issues were tied back to the supplier whom also supplied airbags to a number of large manufacturers like Ford, GM, Honda, Mazda etc, etc Thank you for reinforcing my point. If Toyota uses the same sub-par subcontractors, their reputation is not well-deserved. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:56:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Fuck toyota.
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