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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:27:13 PM EDT


Toyota Announces Voluntary Recall of Certain Tacoma Pickup Trucks for Rear Leaf Springs

TORRANCE, Calif., Sept. 29, 2014 – Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.,
today announced that it has advised the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration (NHTSA) of plans to conduct a voluntary safety recall of
approximately 690,000  Model Year 2005-2011 Tacoma 4x4 and Tacoma
Pre-Runner pickup trucks.





The involved vehicles’ rear suspension system contains leaf springs that
are constructed of either three or four leaves.  There is a possibility
that a leaf could fracture due to stress and corrosion.  If this occurs
and the vehicle continues to be operated, the broken leaf could move
out of position and contact surrounding components, including the fuel
tank. If the broken leaf contacts the fuel tank repeatedly, it could
puncture the tank and cause a fuel leak.  In the presence of an ignition
source, this could result in a fire.





Toyota is not aware of any fires, crashes, injuries or fatalities associated with this condition.





Owners of the vehicles involved in this recall will receive a
notification by first class mail.  Toyota dealers will remedy the
condition at no cost to the owner.





Detailed information is available to customers at www.toyota.com/recall and by calling the Toyota Customer Experience Center at 1-800-331-4331.
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Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:29:58 PM EDT
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I foresee a lot of ass high nose diving trucks.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:30:03 PM EDT
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Whew. Thank goodness it wasn't floor mats.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:33:46 PM EDT
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Mine is good.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:34:46 PM EDT
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Toyota's reputation is not based in the reality of their products.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:37:06 PM EDT
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.
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Only that they last forever.

Unlike Chevy and Ford, Toyota will fix their problems.
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I don't know what you mean, can you please clarify. Thank you.





Yes, I'm old and stupid...



ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued.





 
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:40:12 PM EDT
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mine too



 
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Only that they last forever.



Unlike Chevy and Ford, Toyota will fix their problems.
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Only that they last forever.



Unlike Chevy and Ford, Toyota will fix their problems.




 
Before they rack up a string of fatalities and try to cover them up.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:42:04 PM EDT
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Did my Frontier that I paid thousands less than a similar Taco get recalled?
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Only that they last forever.



Unlike Chevy and Ford, Toyota will fix their problems.


 
Before they rack up a string of fatalities and try to cover them up.
Remember when Toyota had to sit in front of congress? Why didn't Government Motors have to do that. I Fucking hate GM, they owe every American a free car in my opinion. I would sell mine in Mexico then use the dough for moar AR's.....



 
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:42:36 PM EDT
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Only that they last forever.

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Only that they last forever.

Unlike Chevy and Ford, Toyota will fix their problems.


They do seem to stand behind their products.

A friend of mine had one of the older Tacomas with the frame rot issues, it was already beat right to shit anyway and they still gave him something like 5k towards a new vehicle and a loaner car until he could buy a new one.

It might have even been more than 5k, but it was way more than the truck was actually worth at the time, and the frame was still in one piece.
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I don't know what you mean, can you please clarify. Thank you.



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ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued.

 
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Yes, I'm old and stupid...



ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued.

 
He's probably a union guy with a hardon.  Plus, I think he's dodging a pit thread right now anyway....



 
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:43:15 PM EDT
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Did my Frontier that I paid thousands less than a similar Taco get recalled?
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Frontiers are good trucks. I had one, I just like the Taco better. Check resale value of your Frontier to a Taco.



 
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:47:22 PM EDT
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I also have a 2005 Corolla, only has 136,000 on it. Took it in for the 100,000 mile service about a month ago. It needed a computer program update but the update would not download to my car. Toyota put a new computer in it and didn't charge me a penny.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:49:08 PM EDT
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Guess I am getting a new rear suspension.
sweet.

Nice to have a company that will fix things before people die.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:53:02 PM EDT
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Same here.  Wonder if its going to be the 4 pack spring set.

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Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:55:32 PM EDT
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I drove a 98 Tacoma for work for years...  They were great little trucks but the we always laughed about how the leaf springs bent the wrong way!  Even with the smallest of payloads.  Never had any trouble though, other than being scary on the highway....
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:55:40 PM EDT
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.

I see. Then why is Toyota initiating a recall?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:56:14 PM EDT
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Why did you post that here?  No one on this site owns a Taco.
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Yes, I'm old and stupid...

ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued.
 

Indeed. Uncommanded accelerations and numerous recalls are indications of quality and durability.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:56:25 PM EDT
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Damn

Mine is too old. I'll just have to put another 200K on the same old Springs
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Because the U.S. Government owned GM?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:57:53 PM EDT
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Yes, I'm old and stupid...

ETA: I think you are bashing Toyota but I find that really hard to believe. The quality and durability can not be argued.
 
He's probably a union guy with a hardon.  Plus, I think he's dodging a pit thread right now anyway....
 

I do not belong to a union. I simply do not understand Toyota's reputation given the facts of numerous recalls. Other vehicle manufacturers' reputations rightfully suffer. Toyota's does not.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:00:09 PM EDT
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Every manufacturer has recalls. All of them.

If you want to bash Toyota (a personal hobby of mine when I'm bored and in a dickish mood), you'll need something better than this to start with.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:01:29 PM EDT
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Other manufacturers generally make a shit product to begin with.

Toyota products, on average, are viewed to last longer and are perceived to provide better overall value.

Not rocket science. When the consumer already has a positive outlook on the brand a recall isn't going to hurt them as much.

2007 Rav4 v6 with 160k miles
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Other manufacturers generally make a shit product to begin with.

Toyota products, on average, are viewed to last longer and are perceived to provide better overall value.

Not rocket science. When the consumer already has a positive outlook on the brand a recall isn't going to hurt them as much.

2007 Rav4 v6 with 160k miles
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I do not belong to a union. I simply do not understand Toyota's reputation given the facts of numerous recalls. Other vehicle manufacturers' reputations rightfully suffer. Toyota's does not.


Other manufacturers generally make a shit product to begin with.

Toyota products, on average, are viewed to last longer and are perceived to provide better overall value.

Not rocket science. When the consumer already has a positive outlook on the brand a recall isn't going to hurt them as much.

2007 Rav4 v6 with 160k miles

Interesting hypothesis.
What are the competitors to the 2007 Rav4 v6?
What is their average lifespan compared to the 2007 Rav4 v6?

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:03:17 PM EDT
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Does Toyota not hire metallurgist ?
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.

I see. Then why is Toyota initiating a recall?


Because they care more about their customers than domestic truck makers? Fuck if I know, but there was a long "Well, this could lead to this, which could lead to this, which may cause a fire." explanation in the recall notice. The only way that a broken leaf spring would rub through a tank is through abject negligence on the part of the owner.

I've seen broken leaf springs on pretty much every brand truck that uses leaf springs.

Furthermore, if you owned a FWD Ford product manufactured since the '90's, chances are that you've had to replace the coil springs at least once, especially if you owned a wagon. I've seen one fail in such a way that it destroyed a tire, while the vehicle was moving.

No recalls for the shit Ford springs, though.
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Most of their steel is derived from recycled vehicles.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:10:51 PM EDT
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:12:53 PM EDT
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Interesting hypothesis.
What are the competitors to the 2007 Rav4 v6?
What is their average lifespan compared to the 2007 Rav4 v6?

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I do not belong to a union. I simply do not understand Toyota's reputation given the facts of numerous recalls. Other vehicle manufacturers' reputations rightfully suffer. Toyota's does not.


Other manufacturers generally make a shit product to begin with.

Toyota products, on average, are viewed to last longer and are perceived to provide better overall value.

Not rocket science. When the consumer already has a positive outlook on the brand a recall isn't going to hurt them as much.

2007 Rav4 v6 with 160k miles

Interesting hypothesis.
What are the competitors to the 2007 Rav4 v6?
What is their average lifespan compared to the 2007 Rav4 v6?



You have google, knock yourself out finding the answers.


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Most of their steel is derived from recycled vehicles.


American vehicles
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.
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GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.
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Because they care more about their customers than domestic truck makers? Fuck if I know, but there was a long "Well, this could lead to this, which could lead to this, which may cause a fire." explanation in the recall notice. The only way that a broken leaf spring would rub through a tank is through abject negligence on the part of the owner.

I've seen broken leaf springs on pretty much every brand truck that uses leaf springs.

Furthermore, if you owned a FWD Ford product manufactured since the '90's, chances are that you've had to replace the coil springs at least once, especially if you owned a wagon. I've seen one fail in such a way that it destroyed a tire, while the vehicle was moving.

No recalls for the shit Ford springs, though.
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Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.

I see. Then why is Toyota initiating a recall?


Because they care more about their customers than domestic truck makers? Fuck if I know, but there was a long "Well, this could lead to this, which could lead to this, which may cause a fire." explanation in the recall notice. The only way that a broken leaf spring would rub through a tank is through abject negligence on the part of the owner.

I've seen broken leaf springs on pretty much every brand truck that uses leaf springs.

Furthermore, if you owned a FWD Ford product manufactured since the '90's, chances are that you've had to replace the coil springs at least once, especially if you owned a wagon. I've seen one fail in such a way that it destroyed a tire, while the vehicle was moving.

No recalls for the shit Ford springs, though.


I believe there was a recall.  They installed some sort of tire guard to prevent tire rupture in the event of faliure.

They refused to replace the defective springs though.
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GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.


GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.

People died in runaway Toyotas.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Anyone know what the criteria for the recall is?

I have a 2010 4x4 that I had the rear leaf add a leaf TSB done right after I got it. But they didn't replace the whole leaf pack that I am aware.
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.


GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.

People died in runaway Toyotas.


Correct, but Toyota didnt have 3 million runaway cars (Prius')
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Shitty subcontractor and the Tacomas have been chronically undersprung for years.  They were replacing the weak springs with upgraded packs if the customer complained about excessive squatting with the bed loaded.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:24:44 PM EDT
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New 2014 TRD...I'm good...until the next recall

My second Tacoma. Great pickups, will buy another or a 4-runner in 2020...
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Indeed. Uncommanded accelerations and numerous recalls are indications of quality and durability.
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Indeed. Uncommanded accelerations and numerous recalls are indications of quality and durability.
And who was it that made those parts? And did Toyota stand behind them or try to cover it up like Government motors did?



 
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GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.


GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.


And only recalled them after pressured to do so and people had died.
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2014 Xterra Pro 4X

Nothing is perfect! If it was they're would be no need for a warranty. Stuff happens.
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Correct, but Toyota didnt have 3 million runaway cars (Prius')
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.


GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.

People died in runaway Toyotas.


Correct, but Toyota didnt have 3 million runaway cars (Prius')

No. Toyota just has 3 million cars with defective safety equipment.
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This site is interesting:
http://www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html

Let us only hit the highlights:
1. 803,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air conditioning units
2. 1.3 million vehicles recalled due to a faulty air bag system
3. 752,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty air bag system
4. 209,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty seat belt mechanism
5. 2.8 million vehicles recalled due to steering and water pump problems
6. 242,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty brake system
7. 615,000 vehicles recalled due to a faulty shifter mechanism
8. 150,000 vehicles recalled due to the spare tire coming separated from the vehicle
9. 342,000 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts
10. 472,500 vehicles recalled due to faulty seat belts

I stopped at ten. It is disturbing how many seat belt and air bag systems are faulty and must be recalled.


GM has recalled almost 3 million vehicles due to the shitty ignition switch, which actually has killed people.

Checkmate.

People died in runaway Toyotas.


My guess is that on average, consumers tend to have a better perception of Toyota as a brand than say GM. That helps cover a lot of sins.

Example - my previously mentioned Rav4 had a recall for a rear axle issue. Toyota addressed it promptly and professionally, fixed it at no charge, and the local dealer was able to do the work in conjunction with an oil-change so there was no hassle.

Because I've been very happy with the Rav4 overall, view it as a great value and the recall was handed well, the one-time issue doesn't cloud my judgement of Toyota in anyway. In fact, it's enhanced.

Meanwhile, the wife's Windstar mini-van (that we used to own) was a non-stop string of issues from power steering units to rear window motors. It was always something with that turd. Had they had a recall along the way it would have been viewed as massive black eye on the manufacturer and I'd still be bitching about it.

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:30:16 PM EDT
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Were weak springs a chronic problem on Toyota pickups?

My 93 Toyota (still going strong) has always been stinky at carrying loads.  Definitely doable, and we have hauled some heavy stuff including big loads of wood, but it is so terrible to drive compared to my 2000 Ranger, which does much better under a load.  

BTW - my Ranger has had a new transmission and 2 alternators with only 80K miles,  while my Toyota has only had a clutch replaced over its life.  Both been good trucks otherwise.

I do agree that the public's perception of Toyota is higher than "domestic" vehicles.   Although while I have had excellent Toyotas, I have had some excellent domestic vehicles also, both Ford and Chevy.
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I believe there was a recall.  They installed some sort of tire guard to prevent tire rupture in the event of faliure.

They refused to replace the defective springs though.
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Toyota's reputation is not based in the reality of their products.


Leaf springs fail on anything that has leaf springs.

Try again.

I see. Then why is Toyota initiating a recall?


Because they care more about their customers than domestic truck makers? Fuck if I know, but there was a long "Well, this could lead to this, which could lead to this, which may cause a fire." explanation in the recall notice. The only way that a broken leaf spring would rub through a tank is through abject negligence on the part of the owner.

I've seen broken leaf springs on pretty much every brand truck that uses leaf springs.

Furthermore, if you owned a FWD Ford product manufactured since the '90's, chances are that you've had to replace the coil springs at least once, especially if you owned a wagon. I've seen one fail in such a way that it destroyed a tire, while the vehicle was moving.

No recalls for the shit Ford springs, though.


I believe there was a recall.  They installed some sort of tire guard to prevent tire rupture in the event of faliure.

They refused to replace the defective springs though.


They were so bad that while I was a mechanic, any Ford FWD car that came in for an alignment got their springs visually checked, and then sold new rear springs, which were always broken on the wagons (Escort, Taurus, and Focus ).
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:33:22 PM EDT
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I'm just here for the butthurt on both sides.
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