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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:10:39 PM EDT
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Ouch! As an additional safety, the knife edge of the right hand keeps the bolt handle from going forward.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:20:35 PM EDT
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Fucking ouch, that makes me wince looking at it.
OK, once in the name of science, but twice?  
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:22:47 PM EDT
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When they issued Garands for our Freshman ROTC class ('58), the first thing they told us was not to pull the bolt back until we received instructions. It wasn't but a couple of minutes before we heard that sickening "scrunch" and a scream. It probably took the instructor five minutes to quit laughing. Mine's S/N was 1621258. And I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning!
The other hilarity-provoking sound was that of the operator spring flying across the room. At least I think that was their term for it. It's been 55 years since I stripped one. For its time, it was a well-engineered machine. Still is in my opinion. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:32:51 PM EDT
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Deleted dupe.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:40:12 PM EDT
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Cuz it's not called Hakim thumb it's called Hakim stump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've had M1 thumb, (shooting in a John C Garand Match left handed with the loading of a clip during the rapid 10 prone string) Ouch!! Definitely DO NOT WANT hakim thumb  Cuz it's not called Hakim thumb it's called Hakim stump. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:48:35 PM EDT
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that reminds me of the ONE, the ONE time i was careless and let the bolt on my SKS slam on my finger. i dont know how it didnt break. makes me cringe to think about it.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:08:29 PM EDT
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It is almost impossible to get Garand thumb while loading the rifle. Garand thumb happens when someone fools around with an unloaded Garand. To avoid Garand thumb, here's what to do. 1. Always vigorously pull the bolt all the way back. If you pull the bolt backwards in a half-hearted fashion, the bolt can hang up on the follower. And when that happens, a very slight touch will cause the bolt to slam forward and voila--Garand thumb. 2. When loading the rifle, use the knife edge of your hand to block the operating rod handle. Stuff the clip into the magazine and take your thumb away. Now for the other points. The Garand is heavy, but it is well balanced and easy to shoot. It has rugged, accurate iron sights and the gun is extremely strong and reliable. The Garand only holds 8 shots; however, it can be reloaded extremely quickly. I can reload a Garand faster than I can change a magazine on my M14. With a healthy supply of loaded en bloc clips, a skilled person with a Garand is a formidable opponent. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:16:48 PM EDT
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It is almost impossible to get Garand thumb while loading the rifle. Garand thumb happens when someone fools around with an unloaded Garand. To avoid Garand thumb, here's what to do. 1. Always vigorously pull the bolt all the way back. If you pull the bolt backwards in a half-hearted fashion, the bolt can hang up on the follower. And when that happens, a very slight touch will cause the bolt to slam forward and voila--Garand thumb. 2. When loading the rifle, use the knife edge of your hand to block the operating rod handle. Stuff the clip into the magazine and take your thumb away. Now for the other points. The Garand is heavy, but it is well balanced and easy to shoot. It has rugged, accurate iron sights and the gun is extremely strong and reliable. The Garand only holds 8 shots; however, it can be reloaded extremely quickly. I can reload a Garand faster than I can change a magazine on my M14. With a healthy supply of loaded en bloc clips, a skilled person with a Garand is a formidable opponent. You forgot to mention, that much of the recoil is absorbed by the rifle and the mechanism. Very easy rifle to shoot. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:40:18 PM EDT
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What a dumbass. thumbass That wasn't real garand thumb. No blood squirted out of the thumbnail. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:06:38 PM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:08:46 PM EDT
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An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. I don't know if I would ever call the m1 an elegant weapon, but I agree with your sentiment. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:10:47 PM EDT
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An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. The M1 Garand is a serious weapon of war. And the first time I picked one up, my dick got hard. Instantly. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:19:26 PM EDT
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You commie democrat heathen. Take it back! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont think I want a garand anymore You commie democrat heathen. Take it back! Plus 10000000000 |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:19:56 PM EDT
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An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. 
Same age as the Garand, and still better weapons. The STG-44/M1Carbine represented modern weapon design. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:20:08 PM EDT
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The M1 Garand is a serious weapon of war. And the first time I picked one up, my dick got hard. Instantly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. An elegant weapon from a more cevilized age . A weapon made of iron and wood . It has a soul. A m16 is all black and cold. The M1 Garand is a serious weapon of war. And the first time I picked one up, my dick got hard. Instantly. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:24:42 PM EDT
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Chuck Norris So bad-ass his M1 is open bolt configuration.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think I want a garand anymore Repeat after me.........."I want a Garand". "I need a Garand". "I must have a Garand". Come on, you slacker! Say it! Note: I got the Garand thumb once, when I was 18. It was a lesson worth learning. Now!  |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:28:23 PM EDT
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The M1 garand is a joy to behold.
"M-1 thumb" is a training issue. http://www.theboxotruth.com/educational-zone-62-great-firearms-the-m-1-garand/ 
LOVE my CMP Garand. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:30:15 PM EDT
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That wasn't real garand thumb. No blood squirted out of the thumbnail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a dumbass. thumbass That wasn't real garand thumb. No blood squirted out of the thumbnail. And the thumb doesn't look like a Garand chamber. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:46:49 PM EDT
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I'm a hard corps ar15 guy I own a lot of them and have built a ton of them. I was a AO in the Marines IYAOYAS and I ojt small arms . I was a gun shop guy. I worked on m197 guns minni guns and gau16 , but m1 is just a neat rifle. It was ahead of its time. I have a cmp special in 308 and its a awesome rifle . When I'm the range I get all kinds of comments on how well I can shoot thing . Most people can't belive your hitting a steel plate at 500 yards.most guys just don't know how to shoot a iron sighted rifle..
A bit of history Eugine Stoner was a Marine Aviation ordanceman durring wwII. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:18:55 PM EDT
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It weighs too much. The ammo weighs too much. The magazine capacity is laughable. Iron sights are wonderful but limited options for mounting optics to take advantage of that heavier ammo isn't as wonderful. What makes me laugh is how everyone focused like a laserbeam on my post and is basically ignoring the video. Oh lawd, someone doesn't like what I like, everyone dogpile on him. This doesn't include you, AlvinYork, who were polite. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. Who could not love a rifle that is built like a brick, has decent sights, no mag to replace, and that can shoot through trees? Not a frontline arm anymore but it'll do in a pinch. It weighs too much. The ammo weighs too much. The magazine capacity is laughable. Iron sights are wonderful but limited options for mounting optics to take advantage of that heavier ammo isn't as wonderful. What makes me laugh is how everyone focused like a laserbeam on my post and is basically ignoring the video. Oh lawd, someone doesn't like what I like, everyone dogpile on him. This doesn't include you, AlvinYork, who were polite. Name a better semi auto 30-06 you can buy VERY gently used for $640? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:53:01 PM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. Shooting 30-06 rapid fire and you don't get it????? Kiss my empty bag. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:58:03 PM EDT
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I've never owned a Garand, but I have accidently caught my finger in my Model 11's bolt.
I cringed at watching that |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:01:09 AM EDT
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What a Dumbasses for doing that on purpose. Mental midgets walk among us. If you read further, his motto is, "That other thumbs may live." 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:01:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shooting 30-06 rapid fire and you don't get it????? Kiss my empty bag. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. Shooting 30-06 rapid fire and you don't get it????? Kiss my empty bag. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:04:57 AM EDT
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Just watching that made my thumb hurt.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:06:46 AM EDT
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Behold: 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:48:47 AM EDT
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Even if you don't use the heel-of-your-palm-oprod method, if you use you thumb with the nail pointing towards the bore and the fingerprint side towards the butt, when you lock the clip in and let out the bolt moving forward will rotate your thumb upward and out of the way long before it reaches the forward end of it's movement.
Furthermore, most people don't realize this, but the bolt doesn't unlock and begin moving forward until pressure on the clip is released. That means the bolt remains stationary until your thumb begins to move out of the way. If your thumb continues this movement (as it would normally do during a reload!) it will be well clear of the bolt. I think Garand-thumb is a non-issue for properly trained riflemen. I also say that all riflemen should be properly trained in the manual of arms for a weapon they are issued before they are expected to use it. (I've never had Garand-thumb, and have shop M1 Garands extensively.) |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:51:22 AM EDT
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You sir, have some gigantic balls. Or you're an idiot. Can't decide yet
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:30:24 AM EDT
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You sir, have some gigantic balls. Or you're an idiot. Can't decide yet Oh, I wish that was me in the gif... I want a garand... 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:58:11 AM EDT
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I have yet to figure out how to do that without pushing down the follower on an unloaded weapon. I just got into the habit of using the side of my hand to block the charging handle, but have never been able to push the clip down far enough for the bolt to over ride the top round.
ETA: About a thousand rounds through my Garand without Garand Thumb. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:27:02 AM EDT
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The things people do to be "famous". 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:54:28 AM EDT
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For being the greatest battle implement ever devised, it sure did have a really fucking stupid ammunition feeding mechanism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont think I want a garand anymore For being the greatest battle implement ever devised, it sure did have a really fucking stupid ammunition feeding mechanism. You are judging the rifle with 2014 eyes. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:56:03 AM EDT
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Actually there is a company that makes a box magazine conversion for the Garand too. Shuffs http://shuffsparkerizing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image-gallery.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, yeah.... It's because you are so blatantly wrong in your assessment.  Is he reaaallllly though? US Military moved to a lighter rifle with the M16 (if not the M14) BECAUSE that shit was heavy US Military moved away from full-sized cartridges to intermediate BECAUSE they were too heavy and you couldn't carry as much ammunition as wanted US Military moved to box mags BECAUSE they held more rounds which meant more time between having to reload and reloads are made easier Iron sights pretty fucking good, but mounting an optic sucks unless you own a C or D, or change out the bit of wood over top of the barrel. Aaaand everyone DID pretty much take aim at him for his post.
I don't agree with the "cult around these things, other than nostalgia" if that is to say it's no longer an effective weapon. It may not be ideal, by any means with the myriad of modern options one has for firearms, but it'll still put a world of hurt on a target if in the hands of somebody who can handle it. There are much better solutions to the distance vs stopping power question today than the M1 Garand. Would it still kill someone? Of course it would, so would a black powder Colt revolver from the Civil War. As I said, it's still popular due to nostalgia rather than a real tactical use. Quoted:
I agree about the enbloc 8, but it wasn't Mr, Garands idea. He originally wanted to use BAR magazines but it was Uncle Sugar that wanted the clip. I suggest Canfields new book "The M1 Garand". Awesome book. I'm on page 134. I did not know that, yes, it would have been much better with the BAR magazine IMHO. Doesn't someone make a hunting rifle along those lines today? Actually there is a company that makes a box magazine conversion for the Garand too. Shuffs http://shuffsparkerizing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image-gallery.jpg Its a one way conversion. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:29:03 AM EDT
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Compared to the other battle rifles of the era they are fantastic. The only rifle that comes close is my Swiss K31. The Moisin-Nagant fanclub is the one I really don't get. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"the finest battle implement ever devised" Yeah, in the 40s. I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia. Compared to the other battle rifles of the era they are fantastic. The only rifle that comes close is my Swiss K31. The Moisin-Nagant fanclub is the one I really don't get. It's because they are cheap and most of them were likely used in combat aginst the nazi's. Damn strong and damn powerful. IMHO thats really all there is too them, if you get lucky on the bore and rifling, and carefully select or load your own ammo, they can be pretty darn good shooters. But you may go though 3 rifles to get that "good shooter". The rest will be likely 3-4 moa rifles even in good shape. But in my case 500 hand loaded .45acp 230grain rounds for a WWII Mosin in great shape, plus a 2nd stock. Whats not to love? Never shot it yet, eventually I will, can't wait to see what kind of MOA it is capible of since there all over the place. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:33:48 AM EDT
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I bet you could find someone on Craigslist that would pay you to do that to them. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:13:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No way I'm doing that with my Hakim just to make a video.  You named your thumb Hakim? What do you call your big toe?
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:25:39 AM EDT
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I got Garand thumb once. Never again.
I got Benelli thumb once while putting a friend's Montefeltro together that had a tight fitting forearm and a light bolt release. After I yanked the bolt back and that big ass extractor took flesh with it, I wished I had my thumb in a Garand.
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