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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:04:22 PM EDT
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Got a picture of the setup? Did the stud kind of press fit into the chamber? Did you also use a steady rest or something up near muzzle end? I've got a lathe, and a mosin, and I lust after your scout mosin. Can you hold my hand while I steal your idea? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did you thread the barrel? I did it in my lathe. I made a stud that held the barrel through the action. Light pressure and no slipping. I used an adjustable die to finish the threads while checking against the pre made muzzle brake. Got a picture of the setup? Did the stud kind of press fit into the chamber? Did you also use a steady rest or something up near muzzle end? I've got a lathe, and a mosin, and I lust after your scout mosin. Can you hold my hand while I steal your idea? Think red neck. I turned a piece of 0-1 just long enough to reach the end of the chamber and about .050" smaller than the bolt. I just cut a 60 taper at the end and used light pressure in the end of the chamber. I just used a live center at the other end. The action will probably not be straight so you can't trust it. That is why I used the stud. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:29:27 AM EDT
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I need to go shoot this thing soon!
Should I knock down the shine a bit? I can give it a matte finish with maroon scotch brite. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:34:46 AM EDT
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I never thought I'd see the day where I'd see somebody break out a commie milsurp junker gun---with a set of calipers and start measuring group sizes. Wow.  Does it not shoot well enough? I am very okay with 2 moa. I can't wait to see what it will do with a cross hair scope. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:40:34 AM EDT
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MN's are my garbage can gun.
I'm glad you like them though, someone has to I guess. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:03:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:09:28 AM EDT
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When I butcher a mil-surp I want it still looking kinda-sorta like a mil-surp.
I made this one out of a bulged barrel ex-sniper. I used a 91/59 as a pattern. I call it my "Short Sniper". 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:11:34 AM EDT
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I like it , looks great , IMO
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:28:13 AM EDT
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Nice Nugget !!!!! I scouted my M44 and she is a real shooter  Really thinking about getting the Archangel stock for her. Have 2 that I payed 99 bucks each shipped to my door
This is how it would be set-up
https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/images/DSC_0427.JPG WTGDMF!? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:29:23 AM EDT
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When I butcher a mil-surp I want it still looking kinda-sorta like a mil-surp.
I made this one out of a bulged barrel ex-sniper. I used a 91/59 as a pattern. I call it my "Short Sniper".
http://oi54.tinypic.com/k50t55.jpg My original plan was to use a shortened top handguard. My plan changed when the bedding job left a bit too much free float. It wouldn't go on. I don't have the carving experience to put the metal tips back on so it wouldn't have been as nice as yours. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:42:44 AM EDT
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If it were mine, I'd send the brake off to get blackenated. How much could it cost to Ion Bond a little part like that?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:49:59 AM EDT
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Interesting how you ignored your first 100 yard group.
Somehow, I don't think it would make it through a 2MOA All Day Long challenge. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:17:13 AM EDT
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Interesting how you ignored your first 100 yard group. Somehow, I don't think it would make it through a 2MOA All Day Long challenge.
Probably not but there were many groups after that in the same range. Call bs if you want. Not really worried about it. I didn't spend weeks ringing out the accuracy of a rifle running surplus ammo and wearing a red dot sight. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:23:03 AM EDT
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Not my thing but your workmanship looks really good. Carry on camrade-ski.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:45:58 AM EDT
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I polished up the mating surfaces that cock the firing pin upon opening the bolt. 400 and 600 grit paper with oil and a light polish with cratex on the dremel. Much smoother to open the bolt.
I lightly chamfered the bolt face recess so the rims would slide in a bit smoother. Lightly polished the edges. I polished the extractor where it rides over the case rims. Less force to close the bolt. Any other bolt work? The sear catch was done long ago. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:07:12 PM EDT
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Two nice looking Mosin's in this thread now.
Who bent your bolt handles? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:27:12 PM EDT
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Two nice looking Mosin's in this thread now. Who bent your bolt handles? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Two nice looking Mosin's in this thread now. Who bent your bolt handles? The Bolt Man did my handle. Quoted:
My original plan was to use a shortened top handguard. My plan changed when the bedding job left a bit too much free float. It wouldn't go on. I don't have the carving experience to put the metal tips back on so it wouldn't have been as nice as yours. I bedded/FFed my barrel and I did have to thin-out the HG. It helped that it was a 91/30 HG and I had plenty of wood to work with. It was a simple task using a dremel with a sanding drum to "carve" the ends for the metal HG tip and nose cap but then again I had the cut-off ends of the stock/HG to go by. Of course more material had to be removed from the stock for the nose cap. I don't suspect it took all of 15min on each piece to do it. My problem was when the barrel bulged it shattered the front of the laminated stock to the point where I had to epoxy and pin it under the front band and forward of the nose cap crossbolt. After I thought about it for a while I epoxied in two 6/32 bolts, tightened the nuts down till the epoxy dried and then cut both ends of the bolts off with a cut-off wheel. It made for a very solid and unnoticeable repair. The front sling hanger hole is a roll-pin that was epoxied in. Laminate stocks don't so much split as they shatter. That's why Ivan used a wrist crossbolt on their laminate stocks. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:35:52 PM EDT
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Well done. I like it, and I'm kind of a purist. But this one is well done and useful.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:39:26 PM EDT
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I know this will bring lots of critical comments and it doesn't truly fit all the criteria to be a "scout" under Cooper's definition, but this is my second favorite gun in my whole collection. haters gonna hate. I think it is cool. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:08:37 PM EDT
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Well done. I like it, and I'm kind of a purist. But this one is well done and useful. This was 5 shots as quick as I could work the bolt and bring the rifle back up and fire at 25 yards. Not precision target shooting but great practical accuracy. 
The word "useful" is the best compliment yet. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:15:10 PM EDT
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The only thing left to do is blue the brake. The stainless looks hideous hanging out there.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:16:24 PM EDT
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When I butcher a mil-surp I want it still looking kinda-sorta like a mil-surp.
I made this one out of a bulged barrel ex-sniper. I used a 91/59 as a pattern. I call it my "Short Sniper".
http://oi54.tinypic.com/k50t55.jpg Damn that looks good. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:23:56 PM EDT
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Oh no you shaved like $14 off the value of that gun.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Oh no you shaved like $14 off the value of that gun. I will never sell it. It has too much of me in it. It's way too much fun off hand. If I had to hit a man sized target off hand at 300 yards this would be the gun I would grab. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:14:00 PM EDT
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Nice Nugget !!!!! I scouted my M44 and she is a real shooter Really thinking about getting the Archangel stock for her. Have 2 that I payed 99 bucks each shipped to my door
This is how it would be set-up
https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/images/DSC_0427.JPG That would look nice on my Vz54 |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:17:09 PM EDT
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I kinda like it, except for one thing....
That brake is utterly dildos... 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:29:50 PM EDT
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I kinda like it, except for one thing.... That brake is utterly dildos... I made it myself. It's extremely effective. What is wrong with it? I wanted stainless for corrosive ammo. This is my friend shooting it before the refinish. Very little recoil.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:32:30 PM EDT
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit?
This is doing it right: Quote HistoryQuoted:
When I butcher a mil-surp I want it still looking kinda-sorta like a mil-surp.
I made this one out of a bulged barrel ex-sniper. I used a 91/59 as a pattern. I call it my "Short Sniper".
http://oi54.tinypic.com/k50t55.jpg |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:37:52 PM EDT
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Nice work.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:38:58 PM EDT
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? This is doing it ']Quoted:[/span] When I butcher a mil-surp I want it still looking kinda-sorta like a mil-surp.
[span style='font-weight: bold;']I made this one out of a bulged barrel ex-sniper.[/span] I used a 91/59 as a pattern. I call it my "Short Sniper".
http://oi54.tinypic.com/k50t55.jpg I never have seen a bubba'd mosin for sale. If I saw one for a good price I would consider it. I hardly ever see 2nd hand Mosins for sale by private owners. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:42:51 PM EDT
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Because when it comes to Mosins, they're like the same price. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:44:56 PM EDT
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You should consider getting a Surgeon bolt for it.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:47:50 PM EDT
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:48:03 PM EDT
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You should consider getting a Surgeon bolt for it. Link? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:49:35 PM EDT
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Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. The Germans built a hunting rifle. The Americans built a target rifle. The British built a war rifle. The Russians built a rifle. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:54:43 PM EDT
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The Germans built a hunting rifle. The Americans built a target rifle. The British built a war rifle. The Russians built a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. The Germans built a hunting rifle. The Americans built a target rifle. The British built a war rifle. The Russians built a rifle. And the Swedes built the rifle. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:54:56 PM EDT
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Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. What about the ones made by Remington?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:55:43 PM EDT
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Very nice.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:57:46 PM EDT
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What about the ones made by Remington? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't people start with pre-bubba'd guns when they do this shit? Mosins are bubba'd from the factory. What about the ones made by Remington? Never tried one of those. The only decent Mosins I've tried are the Finnish ones. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:45:18 PM EDT
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Sure are a bunch of prissy little snobs outting themselves in this thread. Great job OP, I think it's very cool. The workmanship alone is worth comment.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:00:15 PM EDT
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Sure are a bunch of prissy little snobs outting themselves in this thread. Great job OP, I think it's very cool. The workmanship alone is worth comment. Thank you. This thread is a hell of a lot more positive than the thread I had when I first did the conversion. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:44:19 AM EDT
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I finished up most of my bolt work just now. A few points to polish up nice and smooth...
This is the surface that mates with a similar surface on the bolt body to cock the firing pin. I polished up the ramp. 
This is the mating ramp on the bolt body. I polished up the ramp on this too. 
As you close the bolt the first notch you have to overcome is this one. I polished up the nub on both the bolt body and the back part of the bolt. I may reduce the height of this notch a bit to reduce initial closing forces. 
This surface is the one responsible for forcing the extractor over the case rim. I polished this up well but I didn't mess with the receiver. It is already polished from use. 
I also polished up the flats at the base of the bolt handle so they wouldn't grab as the bolt slides forward. This is about all the bolt work I want to do on this rifle. Anything can be slicked up until it's bright like the sun, but this work left my bolt nice and smooth, but still very positive feeling. This bolt still takes some force to close compared to a commercial bolt gun, but not nearly as much. It's pretty smooth. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:24:28 PM EDT
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A couple more spots to polish.
This is where I polish the extractor. This smooths the extractor as it snaps over the extractor. 
I sanded the bottom of the guide rod/connector up to 600 grit with oil. This smoothed up the rotation of the bolt. 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:33:07 PM EDT
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I have a similar rifle. It's not a bad little setup, but mine is a rear-sight replacement mount, so it's undoable.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:45:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No!, no. )I chopped my 91/30 down to 20'' and dont regret it. I might buy a few more and do something like this to them.  |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:53:00 PM EDT
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YES, YES!! It's a 100 dollar rifle dude, get over it. It's not like he chopped up a BNZ code Mauser or something (which I have )
I chopped my 91/30 down to 20'' and dont regret it. I might buy a few more and do something like this to them.
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No!, no. )
I chopped my 91/30 down to 20'' and dont regret it. I might buy a few more and do something like this to them.
I would love to buy a bubba'd mosin with a good bore to turn into a open sighted sporter with a 20" barrel. I would make it as light as possible. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:56:15 PM EDT
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Good work on both of the rifles in this thread.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:10:15 PM EDT
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You certainly got your money's worth of fun out of this rifle
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:23:36 PM EDT
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You people are the lowest form of gun owner.....
Someone should start a thread..... |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:24:27 PM EDT
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You certainly got your money's worth of fun out of this rifle Isn't that really what the hobby part of the gun culture is about?
I really enjoy projects like this. The best part is the huge smiles when people see it in person and even bigger smiles when folks shoot it. It's just so damn much fun! This thing gets shot more than any other mosin I know of.
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