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Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:50:36 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly.  Local ranges here take your license.  One look at that and it is very clear that I have an Arab name and a first name that is very prevalent in Islam.  No, I'm not a Muslim, but proove that I'm not.

That said I am an all American, country loving, gun shooting, conservative, 'murican who was born and raised in the heartland!!
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So how does she exclude them?  Anyone with a tan and dark hair is off limits?  

My thoughts exactly.  Local ranges here take your license.  One look at that and it is very clear that I have an Arab name and a first name that is very prevalent in Islam.  No, I'm not a Muslim, but proove that I'm not.

That said I am an all American, country loving, gun shooting, conservative, 'murican who was born and raised in the heartland!!


I'm sorry you were dealt that hand, but please understand where the caution is coming from.

I'm speaking as one of the most socially undesirable demographics in the country.

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White male?  

Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:52:36 PM EDT
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Before y'all start with the ethnic cleansing, I just to see the reaction created by a Muslim bakery refusing to make a gay wedding cake.
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I'm all for their right to refuse to make it
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:52:59 PM EDT
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That's stupid.  There are thousands of Muslims that have been living peacefully in this country for decades.  
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Irrelevant.


Her business, she decides who she wants to do business with.

That of course is free American mentality. I know that is not the country we live in anymore.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:53:30 PM EDT
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Not according to some of the "libertarians" here. If they haven't already, they'll be around eventually to talk about how we need a strong, central government to ensure that individuals are not allowed to interfere with the enjoyment of the use of privately owned "public" facilities by everyone in the world.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:53:37 PM EDT
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I am against the discrimination of anyone based on their religious beliefs.

Many fine Muslims have fought and died beside US Service Members. It is beyond ignorant to condemn nearly a billion people just as it is ignorant to lump in all gun owners with criminals who use guns.

The above said, I am a firm believer in the right of a person do so as they see fit with their own property. If that range wants to be an ignorant they have the right in this country to be that way.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:53:37 PM EDT
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White PDX male?  

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White PDX male?  


Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:56:15 PM EDT
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White male?  

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White male?  



Worse.

Middle class, almost middle aged white male.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:57:07 PM EDT
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I am against the discrimination of anyone based on their religious beliefs.

Many fine Muslims have fought and died beside US Service Members. It is beyond ignorant to condemn nearly a billion people just as it is ignorant to lump in all gun owners with criminals who use guns.

The above said, I am a firm believer in the right of a person do so as they see fit with their own property. If that range wants to be an ignorant they have the right in this country to be that way.
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There is a traffic guard at my work, noticed a Bravo Company sticker on his hard hat one day, the rest is history. Guy works, loves guns and thinks pretty much like me. We go shooting just about once a month, good friend of mine actually. They are not all bad.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:57:29 PM EDT
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She has my full support. And I'm sure 100% of Israel as well.
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Or 50% of your range fee donated to Israel charities.  
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It would be easier for the range to say "This range is a friend of Israel. All who shoot here much sign a document supporting Israel's claim to it's land and right to defend itself."
Or 50% of your range fee donated to Israel charities.  

Fuck that...
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 6:59:16 PM EDT
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I'd hit it like the fist of angry screen door.


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Bingo. Filters out those that would oppose Israel, which tend to be among the following groups: A) Liberals B) Muslim extremists C) Nazis.
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It would be easier for the range to say "This range is a friend of Israel. All who shoot here much sign a document supporting Israel's claim to it's land and right to defend itself."
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Bingo. Filters out those that would oppose Israel, which tend to be among the following groups: A) Liberals B) Muslim extremists C) Nazis.

D) None of the above who, despite that, still dont want their hard earned money going to Israel.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:00:25 PM EDT
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You do realize many Muslims live and work in Israel.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:01:14 PM EDT
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My thoughts too..  Scott's Fertilizer has the right to hire just non tobacco users IIRC, I'm sure most will agree their  business thier right
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I keep seeing "freedom of religion" and "infringing on people's religious rights" posted in this thread. How is not being allowed to shoot at her range infringing on anyone's right to worship as they please?







My thoughts too..  Scott's Fertilizer has the right to hire just non tobacco users IIRC, I'm sure most will agree their  business thier right
That's pretty ironic given that they knowingly exposed their workers to vermiculite that was contaminated with asbestos, killing some of them.

 
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:04:19 PM EDT
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Just ask everyone coming in if they are Muslim. Those who say yes cannot enter. They cannot deny it.

 
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So how does she exclude them?  Anyone with a tan and dark hair is off limits?  


Just ask everyone coming in if they are Muslim. Those who say yes cannot enter. They cannot deny it.

 




 
So murdering terrorists are 100% honest?  Got it.  Sounds like a "gun free zone" strategy to me.  Only honest, law abiding folks will voluntarily comply.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:04:27 PM EDT
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That's pretty ironic given that they knowingly exposed their workers to vermiculite that was contaminated with asbestos, killing some of them.  
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I keep seeing "freedom of religion" and "infringing on people's religious rights" posted in this thread. How is not being allowed to shoot at her range infringing on anyone's right to worship as they please?



My thoughts too..  Scott's Fertilizer has the right to hire just non tobacco users IIRC, I'm sure most will agree their  business thier right
That's pretty ironic given that they knowingly exposed their workers to vermiculite that was contaminated with asbestos, killing some of them.  

Quick!  Look over there!
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:05:36 PM EDT
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  So murdering terrorists are 100% honest?  Got it.  Sounds like a "gun free zone" strategy to me.  Only honest, law abiding folks will voluntarily comply.
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So how does she exclude them?  Anyone with a tan and dark hair is off limits?  

Just ask everyone coming in if they are Muslim. Those who say yes cannot enter. They cannot deny it.
 

  So murdering terrorists are 100% honest?  Got it.  Sounds like a "gun free zone" strategy to me.  Only honest, law abiding folks will voluntarily comply.

Or answering the question of "Are you a fugitive from justice?"  
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:05:52 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly.  Local ranges here take your license.  One look at that and it is very clear that I have an Arab name and a first name that is very prevalent in Islam.  No, I'm not a Muslim, but proove that I'm not.



That said I am an all American, country loving, gun shooting, conservative, 'murican who was born and raised in the heartland!!
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So how does she exclude them?  Anyone with a tan and dark hair is off limits?  


My thoughts exactly.  Local ranges here take your license.  One look at that and it is very clear that I have an Arab name and a first name that is very prevalent in Islam.  No, I'm not a Muslim, but proove that I'm not.



That said I am an all American, country loving, gun shooting, conservative, 'murican who was born and raised in the heartland!!
What if they convert to christianity at the door?

 
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:07:08 PM EDT
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This is a tag for the inevitable pit thread
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That's stupid.  There are thousands of Muslims that have been living peacefully in this country for decades.  
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Sleeper cells?
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Or answering the question of "Are you a fugitive from justice?"  
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So how does she exclude them?  Anyone with a tan and dark hair is off limits?  


Just ask everyone coming in if they are Muslim. Those who say yes cannot enter. They cannot deny it.

 


  So murdering terrorists are 100% honest?  Got it.  Sounds like a "gun free zone" strategy to me.  Only honest, law abiding folks will voluntarily comply.



Or answering the question of "Are you a fugitive from justice?"  
Well shit.  She can forget this no muslim rule.  All she's gotta do is have them fill out a 4473 at the door.  

 



Iron clad.  Genius.
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Not according to some of the "libertarians" here. If they haven't already, they'll be around eventually to talk about how we need a strong, central government to ensure that individuals are not allowed to interfere with the enjoyment of the use of privately owned "public" facilities by everyone in the world.
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Right to freedom of association.


Not according to some of the "libertarians" here. If they haven't already, they'll be around eventually to talk about how we need a strong, central government to ensure that individuals are not allowed to interfere with the enjoyment of the use of privately owned "public" facilities by everyone in the world.


Libertarians are responsible for the civil rights act of 1964?





 
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Not according to some of the "libertarians" here. If they haven't already, they'll be around eventually to talk about how we need a strong, central government to ensure that individuals are not allowed to interfere with the enjoyment of the use of privately owned "public" facilities by everyone in the world.
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Right to freedom of association.


Not according to some of the "libertarians" here. If they haven't already, they'll be around eventually to talk about how we need a strong, central government to ensure that individuals are not allowed to interfere with the enjoyment of the use of privately owned "public" facilities by everyone in the world.
Okie dokie then.

 
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:12:34 PM EDT
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Yup. Not sure how she is going to tell who is and who isn't. They don't all wander around in turbans and such.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:12:48 PM EDT
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Future self-inflicted bankruptcy case after being cleaned out by the plague of lawyers coming her way. She won't win no matter what her reasons.
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Or offered free bacon covered hotdogs and have a stack at the counter.
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They do the same thing with their mosques.

No infidels allowed...
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Or offered free bacon covered hotdogs and have a stack at the counter.

Not a problem thanks to the magic of taqiyya.  They can also curse, drink booze, fuck bitches, and even kill their own kind without fear of damnation.
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There was an incident where I used to live in California where this guy answered 'yes' on that question.

At least he was an honest fugitive.  

Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:13:10 PM EDT
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Wish I could do a road trip to go down there and give that woman my money.
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not with obungo and holder still around
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Not a problem thanks to the magic of taqiyya.  They can also curse, drink booze, fuck bitches, and even kill their own kind without fear of damnation.
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They do the same thing with their mosques.



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Or offered free bacon covered hotdogs and have a stack at the counter.


Not a problem thanks to the magic of taqiyya.  They can also curse, drink booze, fuck bitches, and even kill their own kind without fear of damnation.




 
Sound like a Saturday night in Chicago.
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She should have said Only Infidels allowed instead of No Muslims allowed.  
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No infidels allowed...
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If the gun range was a church she could get away with it but a gun range is not so she will lose.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:16:40 PM EDT
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This doesn't bother me at all, and what would I do if she chose to not allow handsome, well-hung middle aged Caucasians you say? I would just find a different range to shoot at ...
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what she should do is turn it   into a private range and charge a membership
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White male?  



Straight , white , conservative ,gun-owning , Christian male . . . . even MORE undesirabler

 
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:22:26 PM EDT
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If the gun range was a church she could get away with it but a gun range is not so she will lose.
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No infidels allowed...
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If the gun range was a church she could get away with it but a gun range is not so she will lose.
Our Lady of Cordite has a nice ring to it.

 
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:23:22 PM EDT
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Belong to one and would you imagine that there is never any bullshit going on there (women have to be signed in by members as well so there's not really any girl drama either). It's not a place to go get laid but to have a beer or few and shoot the shit and be able to relax, it can't be beat.

Eta: missed the quote but this was in reference to the private bar mentioned on page 1 that only accepts non ghetto banger types.
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nah, you would be there with the rest of us.
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Yeah true.


Price of admission/range time includes bacon.

Eat the bacon to get in.
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I'm all for their right to refuse to make it
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Before y'all start with the ethnic cleansing, I just to see the reaction created by a Muslim bakery refusing to make a gay wedding cake.


I'm all for their right to refuse to make it


So am I, but the apoplectic fits that the situation would incite would be fun to watch.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:25:46 PM EDT
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I stand with Jan
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Straight , white , conservative ,gun-owning , Christian male . . . . even MORE undesirabler  
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Straight , white , conservative ,gun-owning , Christian male . . . . even MORE undesirabler  


Ya got me.
Link Posted: 9/29/2014 7:27:26 PM EDT
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They'll find some way to sneak in
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She's silly. Although I know where she is coming from. Two words Hitler and Stalin. White people make me nervous.
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"Am I too White for You?"
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Katzenbach v McClung
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sleeper cells.

eta - beat by 21 minutes
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Try 1.6 billion Muslims.  A recent survey had some percentage of Muslims who believe in this type activity or at least hatred towards Westerners.  Maybe it was 20-25 %.  Let us just assume 5%.

That is 80 million people who are a threat.  Ignore the threat if you wish but they earned the status much as ghetto trash have.
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She's silly. Although I know where she is coming from. Two words Hitler and Stalin. White people make me nervous.



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I wonder if anyone has figured out that islam is a religion and not a race.  

 
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the indoctrination of Americans is coming out large in this thread.
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And fuck them.
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