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So what you're saying, is that it's not feasible to open a portable ATM, by smashing a Tweaker's head with it?

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The ones I have seen at the bank I use usually just have their hand on the gun. But I try to make sure my I keep my cover shirt down around those guys because they seem really jumpy.

The bank has been robbed several times though and they have an unarmed guard to patrol the grounds.

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Wouldn't carrying a pistol in hand, while in public, be considered brandashing in many jurisdictions?

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They are licensed to carry a gun.  Is there a legal requirement that it be holstered?  OR... do you just not like people with guns?

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They are licensed to carry a gun.  Is there a legal requirement that it be holstered?  OR... do you just not like people with guns?

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Holy crap. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19760401&id=bnMjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M2cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4868,58702
   

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You're not safe in the branch either. We had a crew from Boston hit our building (fortunately at night, but there could have easily been someone there for a special). They disabled the alarms, cut a hole in the roof, and rappelled down inside.

Their plasma cutter ran out of juice before they made it all the way into the vault. They did manage to set the building on fire though.
   

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Huh?  Is my sarcasm meter broken, or are you from the planet Mars?  I am a paying member of this site, a lifetime NRA member, and there's a 90% chance I shoot more rounds per year than you will in a lifetime.  I love guns and support the right to carry them.

It was a simple question.  Armored car drivers are not police officers.  If I waved a gun around in public, in Iowa, I would be arrested for brandishing.  Licenced to carry or not.

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It's nothing exciting, but OK. (I'll have to leave out some things for security purposes.)


0545 - Arrive for work, clock in. Fill up thermos with coffee in break room. Retrieve your duty gear, vest, et cetera from your locker. (Some guys would change in the locker room, most wore their uniform to and from work.)

0600 - Get in line for a window (sealed room connected to cash vault) to start checking out your supplies for the day (money and paperwork; and radios, cell phones, and firearms for you and your driver).

0620 - Assuming you are early on the schedule, you are done checking out and are now standing around waiting for your driver to make it into the building with the truck.

0640 - Load supplies while driver loads coin. Help him get it all sorted.


Out of town run:

0700 - Leave the branch and begin your route. You have enough seniority to have an out of town run, so for the next hour you stare out the window until you reach your first stop in some podunk town.

1000 - You have done a few stops so far. Your driver is doing most of the work as your stops are spread out in several towns amongst three states. It is ungodly hot in the truck because their is no air conditioning and very little ventilation.

1200 - You are stranded on the side of the road because they gave your brand new truck to an in-town run and gave you a rusted out piece of crap. Your driver potentially has heat stroke. He has taken off his duty belt, vest, and pants. He has a cooler full of cold soda and candy bars that he isn't sharing.

1400 - The mechanic arrives with another truck. You swap everything over and continue on. Your back is killing you from years of loading and unloading coin. You are now two hours behind, but still must make all your stops. This means altering the route. You hit the banks first, then backtrack to ATMs and small stores that aren't time sensitive. This puts you further behind.

1600 - With no time for bathroom breaks, you open the gunport and pee out the side of the truck as it goes down the road.

1800 - Arriving back in town, you meet up with some new guys and dump several bags of cash and coin on them. You would normally have to take these to the various bank's main cash vaults for deposit, but the dispatcher lets you put it off on these guys as you are already behind (plus, he used to be your messenger when you were a driver  and you two drink beer together outside of work).

1900 - You arrive back at your branch, all deliveries made. You unload and get in line for a window to check out. You see your driver leaving. Having given you his paperwork and equipment, he parked the truck and clocked out.

2000 - You clock out. On the way out you see the transportation manager looking for a warm body. You sneak between some parked trucks and slip out the door.


In town run:

0700 - Leave the branch and begin your route. You reach your first stop before you have time to sort your supplies. Your driver is drinking coffee, watching you scurry about.

1000 - You have done 20 stops. You are hustling. The good news is that your usual truck is in the shop so they gave one of the new trucks from an out of town run. This truck has excellent air conditioning.

1200 - One of your Tuesday stops called in and wants a special order delivered. It is Monday. You don't go to that area on Monday. You return to the branch to pick up the money. You are now 45 minutes behind.  You now have to alter the rest of your route to make all your stops.

1600 - You and your driver take a lunch break/restroom break at a fast food joint near the college campus filled with hot chicks.

1700 - Being fresh from the military, you are in top shape. You run all day and not only make all your stops, you actually finish early! When you notify dispatch that you are returning to base, they send you to help out some old guys who's truck broke down.

1800 - Having met up with the other truck, you are at the bank cash vault. Whilst there, dispatch advises you to pick up whatever supplies they have that need to come back to the branch for tomorrow. You look through the window and see five carts full of bagged coin waiting for you.

1900 - You arrive back at your branch, all deliveries made. You unload and get in line for a window to check out. Your driver waits for you to finish.

2000 - You clock out and you two discuss your day.


2010 - New guy bonus round! The transportation manager approaches you as you stand around chatting after checking in. You have been selected to deliver cargo to a plane tonight.

2300 - You return to the branch and clock back in. You check out three giant black metal boxes and load them on the truck. You're pretty sure you just blew a disc in your back.

0100 - You return to the branch and get in a window to check in. You notice that your driver has started unbuttoning his pants whilst driving. Weird.







               

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I wouldn't do it because the pay doesn't match the possible level of danger.

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"Brandishing a dangerous weapon" means the display or
     exhibition of a dangerous weapon, with the intent to use, intimidate,
     or threaten another person without justification, or the actual use
     of the dangerous weapon in a manner which is intended to or does
     cause serious injury or death.

Iowa Code.  No exeptions for armored car drivers.

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I guess that was my point.  I haven't ever not listened to them, but I also don't see what I am supposed to be overly courteous when they have been complete assholes.

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They're assholes because you're standing around picking your nose where they have work to do?

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In your case, I reccommend not doing business with entities that associate with such scoundrels.

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Here we go again.  More moonbat shit.

I've never had any problems with armored car drivers or the businesses they associate with. I will continue to shop as I please.

Ive also never seen one with his weapon drawn while carrying a bag of money.  I'm guessing because it is unecessary and probably illegal to do so.

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They are often the same guys.At least if by ATM Tech you mean the guy who opens it and puts the money inside.



My brother used to do it. I think he made around $10.

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A long time ago the LAPD issued "clamshell" holsters to their officers.

The "clamshell" had a button on it that, when pressed, would cause the side of the holster to pop wide open (like a clam's shell), on the theory that this would allow an officer a faster draw in an emergency.

They stopped issuing them not long thereafter, because mischievous little boys caught on and would sneak up behind officers and push the button, causing their guns to fall out onto the ground.

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So you just pulled this issue out of your bank bag then?

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If i can open a vending machine i can open the computer compartment, and who needs access to a bank box when you can tell the ATM to empty it out for you?

See that's the flaw with most ATM's they all use all there lock tec to keep goons away from the cash, but do nothing to keep nerds away from the computer.

My main question why not use a proprietary adapter for the computer why would they use a normal USB port and of all things use XP and not something better.

I also seen a crack head cut an ATM to peaces in about 3 minutes with house hold power tools and go poof with the cash box before the cops showed up.

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Military is more about service rather than a "job". No one joins the military for the pay, at least I don't think. There are other benefits to being in the military, but far more is asked of those who *serve* than they are compensated for. At least this is how I view it.

Correctional officers are usually paid low for what they do, but for most OT is mandatory and there are other benefits since it's a government type job so the compensation vs. risk is more reasonable. Truck driving, well, most truck drivers don't have a target painted on them, unless they're armored truck drivers.

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LOL! If you could pull that off you'd be a star at CES. Do you know what Triple DES is without looking it up? SPEAR? Doubt it...

As someone who works for one of the manufacturers and has serviced our machines for the better part of a decade I'd venture to say I'm a bona fide SME and, no offense, but you're full of shit.

If you saw a crackhead cut open an ATM it wasn't one of ours. It was one of the budget brands you see at the Stop and Rob. I've got a folder full of (confidential) pics that show the only way anyone has successfully gotten into our stuff within a reasonable period of time has been with heavy construction equipment. And, funny enough, some turds even fail at that.

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YEE-HAAHHHHH! Challenge that authority!! Be a man!!

And, then when your stupid ass gets run the hell over by the heavy equipment that's moving over the public right-of-way, pay for your own damn repairs. I absolutely love the idiots who ignore the "lowly construction worker" we put out to safeguard the public and ensure safety as we're doing our work. It's so much fun to shut things down while we untangle your cars from the excavator tracks, or when the crap in the bucket falls out onto the roof of your car as you go blithely driving underneath it...

Dumbass.

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Well said.

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Good one there Billy Badass.