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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:47:59 AM EDT
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Moron.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:52:40 AM EDT
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 Yes he does Mark. Actions have consequences and the courts agree that "good faith" just doesn't fly in this case.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Officer doesn't need to go to jail ... ... but damn, he could have accidently killed the nice kid and America doesn't need that right now, what with Obama at the UN or wherever, invoking Ferguson and all. Yes he does Mark. Actions have consequences and the courts agree that "good faith" just doesn't fly in this case.Whatever new live fire action movie stuff the police academies have the guys practicing on might be a little overkill ... kid might be a prime example. Take all the dog shootings ... that must be in a few of the scenarios ... and maybe not. Maybe non-dag guys watch the K9 teams and think all dogs act as ferociously as police dogs, but that's off topic. Either way, I bet a lawyer could use the officer's training that was pounded into him as his defense. Dunno. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:53:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:55:08 AM EDT
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Happened less than ten miles from my house. From what I understand, the trooper has been in trouble before.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 6:56:46 AM EDT
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Ex-S.C. trooper who shot unarmed man faces charges COLUMBIA, S.C. — A former South Carolina state trooper who shot an unarmed man was charged Wednesday with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature. Sean Groubert, 31, was booked at the Richland County Detention Center. He faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/24/ex-trooper-who-shot-unarmed-man-faces-charges/16178961/ What a bullshit charge if that have been a person who wasn't a LEO the charge would be attempted murder and should be for the cop as well |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:14:39 AM EDT
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what a dipshit
then keeps on about a seatbelt violation after he put a bullet in him.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:19:22 AM EDT
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Jiminey Christmas... what the heck did he shoot him for?
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:22:32 AM EDT
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Tag to see how this shakes out.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:28:24 AM EDT
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must have seen a dog
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:30:47 AM EDT
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Ya know, sometimes I just have to get it on.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:33:07 AM EDT
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Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I think this guy would disagree, although I will concede that the officers were responding to an irresponsible report of a man with a gun: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1652842_Man_carrying_a_rifle_in_Wal_Mart_shot_and_killed_by_police__Update__Grand_Jury_Declines_to_Indict_.html And then there's this story, bad circumstances again. I played with and OC'ed toy guns a lot as a kid, and never got shot: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1669501_14_yo_youth_shot_by_police_officer__Still_Under_investigation__Sad_situation_all_around_.html It's time to admit that there is a reactionary problem with the training that is taking context and common-sense too far out of decision-making loop. Society degrading the way it is isn't helping, of course. For the officer's sake alone, we need to examine this so that we can find a solution. CCW'ers can be prone to this issue as well. We're going to need a new sub-forum for these topics if people keep sticking their heads in the sand. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:36:10 AM EDT
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No question it's a bad shoot. What's interesting is that he had been involved in a previous shooting that was clean (was actually taking rounds from the bad guy prior to the shoot). While I expect he'll be convicted, I'll be interested to see how possible PTSD works into this, and what charge he ends up with. THIS is why PTSD in cops is a serious (but generally ignored) issue... it can result in a very bad thing happening to an innocent man. BTW, for all the basement-dwelling, mouth-breathing cop haters out there, no favoritism was shown in the case, nor was anything covered up. Rule of law in action. and all too rare, that's why cops are hated. Cops will continue to be hated until the "police up their shit." They had to admit that its they that are the problem, not everyone else. We still have not seen the blue wall come up, I sure it will with a fully paid for public defense as well and a reinstatement. You guys are not out of the woods yet. Here is hoping for a life sentence or at the very least and never ever holding any position of responsibility over the public again. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:41:09 AM EDT
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Damn
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:43:01 AM EDT
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I think this guy would disagree, although I will concede that the officers were responding to an irresponsible report of a man with a gun: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1652842_Man_carrying_a_rifle_in_Wal_Mart_shot_and_killed_by_police__Update__Grand_Jury_Declines_to_Indict_.html And then there's this story, bad circumstances again. I played with and OC'ed toy guns a lot as a kid, and never got shot: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1669501_14_yo_youth_shot_by_police_officer__Still_Under_investigation__Sad_situation_all_around_.html It's time to admit that there is a reactionary problem with the training that is taking context and common-sense too far out of decision-making loop. Society degrading the way it is isn't helping, of course. For the officer's sake alone, we need to examine this so that we can find a solution. CCW'ers can be prone to this issue as well. We're going to need a new sub-forum for these topics if people keep sticking their heads in the sand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I think this guy would disagree, although I will concede that the officers were responding to an irresponsible report of a man with a gun: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1652842_Man_carrying_a_rifle_in_Wal_Mart_shot_and_killed_by_police__Update__Grand_Jury_Declines_to_Indict_.html And then there's this story, bad circumstances again. I played with and OC'ed toy guns a lot as a kid, and never got shot: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1669501_14_yo_youth_shot_by_police_officer__Still_Under_investigation__Sad_situation_all_around_.html It's time to admit that there is a reactionary problem with the training that is taking context and common-sense too far out of decision-making loop. Society degrading the way it is isn't helping, of course. For the officer's sake alone, we need to examine this so that we can find a solution. CCW'ers can be prone to this issue as well. We're going to need a new sub-forum for these topics if people keep sticking their heads in the sand. neither of those you posted suffer from a "reactionary problem"
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:43:51 AM EDT
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:47:14 AM EDT
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Happened less than ten miles from my house. From what I understand, the trooper has been in trouble before. Which should add another "0" to the settlement figure. Keeping a known problem child around, and then this happens, is the kind of thing plaintiffs' lawyers LOVE. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:54:09 AM EDT
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He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:02:53 AM EDT
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cop had it turned up to eleven, apparently
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:08:54 AM EDT
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neither of those you posted suffer from a "reactionary problem"
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I think this guy would disagree, although I will concede that the officers were responding to an irresponsible report of a man with a gun: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1652842_Man_carrying_a_rifle_in_Wal_Mart_shot_and_killed_by_police__Update__Grand_Jury_Declines_to_Indict_.html And then there's this story, bad circumstances again. I played with and OC'ed toy guns a lot as a kid, and never got shot: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1669501_14_yo_youth_shot_by_police_officer__Still_Under_investigation__Sad_situation_all_around_.html It's time to admit that there is a reactionary problem with the training that is taking context and common-sense too far out of decision-making loop. Society degrading the way it is isn't helping, of course. For the officer's sake alone, we need to examine this so that we can find a solution. CCW'ers can be prone to this issue as well. We're going to need a new sub-forum for these topics if people keep sticking their heads in the sand. neither of those you posted suffer from a "reactionary problem"
your argument is invalid. In both cases, the officers reacted to perceived threats as they were trained. And in both cases, the officers will have to live with themselves for pulling the trigger on people who were not carrying real guns. At face-value, in both cases they were legally justified based upon what they knew at the time. I'm sure the officers would feel much better if they had taken an extra few seconds to assess what they were seeing before pulling the trigger. My argument is that pre-articulated responses to situations, intended to save lives, are resulting in unfortunate tragedies that people have to live with. I find that to be a very valid point. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:12:14 AM EDT
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take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Max 20 years? What will be the actual time served? 10? 5? Be honest now. You also skipped right past his point of how a non-JBT would be charged. Do you disagree that is true? Pathetic try at redirecting. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:17:06 AM EDT
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In both cases, the officers reacted to perceived threats as they were trained. And in both cases, the officers will have to live with themselves for pulling the trigger on people who were not carrying real guns. At face-value, in both cases they were legally justified based upon what they knew at the time. I'm sure the officers would feel much better if they had taken an extra few seconds to assess what they were seeing before pulling the trigger. My argument is that pre-articulated responses to situations, intended to save lives, are resulting in unfortunate tragedies that people have to live with. I find that to be a very valid point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I think this guy would disagree, although I will concede that the officers were responding to an irresponsible report of a man with a gun: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1652842_Man_carrying_a_rifle_in_Wal_Mart_shot_and_killed_by_police__Update__Grand_Jury_Declines_to_Indict_.html And then there's this story, bad circumstances again. I played with and OC'ed toy guns a lot as a kid, and never got shot: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1669501_14_yo_youth_shot_by_police_officer__Still_Under_investigation__Sad_situation_all_around_.html It's time to admit that there is a reactionary problem with the training that is taking context and common-sense too far out of decision-making loop. Society degrading the way it is isn't helping, of course. For the officer's sake alone, we need to examine this so that we can find a solution. CCW'ers can be prone to this issue as well. We're going to need a new sub-forum for these topics if people keep sticking their heads in the sand. neither of those you posted suffer from a "reactionary problem"
your argument is invalid. In both cases, the officers reacted to perceived threats as they were trained. And in both cases, the officers will have to live with themselves for pulling the trigger on people who were not carrying real guns. At face-value, in both cases they were legally justified based upon what they knew at the time. I'm sure the officers would feel much better if they had taken an extra few seconds to assess what they were seeing before pulling the trigger. My argument is that pre-articulated responses to situations, intended to save lives, are resulting in unfortunate tragedies that people have to live with. I find that to be a very valid point. now you just invalidated your argument
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:17:07 AM EDT
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What a bullshit charge if that have been a person who wasn't a LEO the charge would be attempted murder and should be for the cop as well Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ex-S.C. trooper who shot unarmed man faces charges COLUMBIA, S.C. — A former South Carolina state trooper who shot an unarmed man was charged Wednesday with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature. Sean Groubert, 31, was booked at the Richland County Detention Center. He faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/24/ex-trooper-who-shot-unarmed-man-faces-charges/16178961/ What a bullshit charge if that have been a person who wasn't a LEO the charge would be attempted murder and should be for the cop as well That requires malice aforethought in SC, so not sure it would work. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:17:09 AM EDT
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take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... He intentionally shot (i.e., used deadly force) against another human being, without justification. Why hasn't he been charged with an attempted homicide crime of some sort? Also, consider switching to decaf. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:17:14 AM EDT
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Horrible shoot. Good fire and arrest
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:19:53 AM EDT
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Revenue collecting should not be a #1 reason to pull someone over. I believe in Mass a seat belt violation is not allowed as the reason to pull you over. After they do pull you over for some other BS they then can tac it on to further the total fine. Well atleast that vic will be getting a new truck.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:21:24 AM EDT
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Revenue collecting should not be a #1 reason to pull someone over. I believe in Mass a seat belt violation is not allowed as the reason to pull you over. After they do pull you over for some other BS they then can tac it on to further the total fine. Well atleast that vic will be getting a new truck. They always sell it as a "secondary" enforcement law when it's first enacted. Then the slippery slope kicks in, and they change it to "primary," and then start doing checkpoints to enforce it. For the children, of course. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:22:49 AM EDT
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He intentionally shot (i.e., used deadly force) against another human being, without justification. Why hasn't he been charged with an attempted homicide crime of some sort?... I wonder why he wasn't charged. It's a real mystery! 
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:29:06 AM EDT
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Had a female in my academy class that got washed out during field training.
She wanted to play street counselor and somehow "justify" that a POS's upbringing was the cause of their criminal behavior/actions. Thus, the POS didn't need to go to jail. She was also afraid of her own shadow. After getting cut loose, she got picked up by a smaller, local PD. During a traffic stop, she shot at the driver since he was "reaching for a weapon". Needless to say, the dashcam video didn't justify her actions. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:29:18 AM EDT
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But But furtive movements!
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:29:42 AM EDT
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Where "concept" and "reality" collide.
The concept of firing if someone is making an un-commanded reach for something is legit when the totality of circumstances add up. When you ASK the guy to get something and he does, the totality is put on hold for a second. The cop failed to make some logical choices and didn't watch the hands. He is a dunce. Sad, but the driver needs to say, "Ok, license is on the dash" and wait a second. He's not at fault. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:30:01 AM EDT
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I hope he does time. In before the apologist cavalry arrives. It hasnt hit glocktalk coptalk yet but should make for some interesting reading over there why, are police sacred over there as well? |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:32:24 AM EDT
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Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I hope you are right, but as you well know, or should the vast majority of the time that is not the case. The police line up, cover up and protect the officer. he gets a milf ..something.. and he back out there in no time at his job or another department. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:32:59 AM EDT
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I would love to see those statistics posted from a reliable source. Please provide the data to support your claim. BTW, love the patronizing way you answered, lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are getting shot because they don't know any better by officers who are simply being too aggressive. This is not isolated, it is a trend that needs de-escalated. Calm down. There are tens of thousands of vehicle stops and other police contacts that happen every single day. Very rarely is any force used, much less deadly force. And in the overwhelming majority of cases when deadly force is used, it is very easily justified. This guy fucked up and overreacted, not a trend. And he will answer for it. I would love to see those statistics posted from a reliable source. Please provide the data to support your claim. BTW, love the patronizing way you answered, lol. If he's claiming trend or no trend, I want to see the linear regression with P and F value reported. (and obviously what alpha was used) |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:33:57 AM EDT
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The officer was simply obeying rule #1 in law enforcement. What is rule number 1.. Make sure you story is the only one? |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:34:21 AM EDT
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Max 20 years? What will be the actual time served? 10? 5? Be honest now. You also skipped right past his point of how a non-JBT would be charged. Do you disagree that is true? Pathetic try at redirecting. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Max 20 years? What will be the actual time served? 10? 5? Be honest now. You also skipped right past his point of how a non-JBT would be charged. Do you disagree that is true? Pathetic try at redirecting. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile you want to argue time served? who fuck serves all their time? the man was charged, and the trial hasn't even started....im sure you can drive down to south carolina and find some rope on the way to out right hang the guy if you so desire.........and there are many cases of use of force against police officers that end up being plea bargained down....oh shit lets not forget about plea bargains now, where the fuck is extorris i don't need to redirect a damn thing, you fuckers are just dumbfounded that a state actually police up its messed quickly...and the copblock types are grasping |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:34:37 AM EDT
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The officer was simply obeying rule #1 in law enforcement. What is rule number 1.. Make sure you story is the only one? lol No really what IS RULE #1 |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:34:48 AM EDT
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What is rule number 1.. Make sure you story is the only one? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The officer was simply obeying rule #1 in law enforcement. What is rule number 1.. Make sure you story is the only one? fife's law  (this is purely satire)
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:37:15 AM EDT
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He was just making sure he went home safe...
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:38:04 AM EDT
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Officer doesn't need to go to jail ... ... but damn, he could have accidently killed the nice kid and America doesn't need that right now, what with Obama at the UN or wherever, invoking Ferguson and all. No, he doesn't need to go to jail. He needs a quick trial and a sharp drop. Then maybe he can be buried under the jail. 
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:39:14 AM EDT
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He intentionally shot (i.e., used deadly force) against another human being, without justification. Why hasn't he been charged with an attempted homicide crime of some sort? Also, consider switching to decaf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... He intentionally shot (i.e., used deadly force) against another human being, without justification. Why hasn't he been charged with an attempted homicide crime of some sort? Also, consider switching to decaf. you obviously need to continue to practice law in virginia....and nowhere else....as you have no idea what south carolina's law's are....there was no plan to shoot the man, the state charged him with the highest charge that will possibly stick....are you familiar with that, like actually trying to win cases? and i don't drink coffee....i just get sick of reading your post stirring shit....the pit is down the road if you want get into any further philosophical discussion |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:41:22 AM EDT
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take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... State has not handled anything yet. We still have a court defense to pay for. Thousands of cops walk every year from this point untouched from this point. It will be handled when he is safely in prison without parole, and never ever ever to hold a position of public responsibility again. We will see. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:41:34 AM EDT
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No question it's a bad shoot. What's interesting is that he had been involved in a previous shooting that was clean (was actually taking rounds from the bad guy prior to the shoot). While I expect he'll be convicted, I'll be interested to see how possible PTSD works into this, and what charge he ends up with. THIS is why PTSD in cops is a serious (but generally ignored) issue... it can result in a very bad thing happening to an innocent man. BTW, for all the basement-dwelling, mouth-breathing cop haters out there, no favoritism was shown in the case, nor was anything covered up. Rule of law in action. Wow.......I'll bet $1000 that he was quick on the trigger because of the prior incident..... Definitely could be a case of PTSD......the way he reacted I would not doubt it |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:43:14 AM EDT
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This is what happens when you teach or someone learns tasks rather than goals. The task here (and it was wrong) is to shoot people who make furtive movements. The goal is to use force when necessary against threats. Fucking Bullshit......we don't teach people to shoot because of furtive movements...... |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:44:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Max 20 years? What will be the actual time served? 10? 5? Be honest now. You also skipped right past his point of how a non-JBT would be charged. Do you disagree that is true? Pathetic try at redirecting. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes he does, and he's already been arrested on the charges apparently He got arrested on some chickenshit, minor A&B charge. Would have been "attempted capital murder" if the roles were reversed. take your foot out of your damn mouth... its an aggravated battery charge that carrys up to 20 years.... fuck, know what the fuck your talking about before spouting off about other states laws...its a bad shoot and he's going to do some time over it GD just doesn't know what to do, because the guy was in the wrong and the state has handled it.... Max 20 years? What will be the actual time served? 10? 5? Be honest now. You also skipped right past his point of how a non-JBT would be charged. Do you disagree that is true? Pathetic try at redirecting. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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