Picked up some old guns over the weekend

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Picked up some old guns over the weekend

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:22:19 PM EDT

These all belonged to my grand dad. The top one is a Model 1884 Springfield Trapdoor made in 1886. Him and his brothers went in on a surplus crate of them in the early 50s, they were covered in cosmoline.

Next one down is a Newton Arms .256 Newton with the set trigger. These were made between about 1916 and 1920, the stock is not in original condition. He did a lot of side work as a gun smith and could fix a broken or cracked stock, like in this case. He bought this in the late 40s, and it was what put meat on the table, lots of deer and elk.

The bottom one I remember him buying in 1974. It's an Ithaca/SKB side by side 20 g. The engraving on it is outstanding.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:27:29 PM EDT

[#1]

Sweet guns Op.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:28:16 PM EDT

[#2]

Nice!

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:28:24 PM EDT

[#3]

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:29:10 PM EDT

[#4]

That Springfield Trapdoor is nice!

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:31:18 PM EDT

[#5]

Nice. The trapdoor is kinda cool, hows the condition?

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:31:20 PM EDT

[#6]

Very Nice!

I'm a sucker for odd balls, the .256 Newton is a cool gun.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:33:25 PM EDT

[#7]

Looks good.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:37:19 PM EDT

[#8]

I love it when people get to keep firearms in the family especially when they have cool stories to go with them. Hang on to them OP.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:38:30 PM EDT

[#9]

Well done!!

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:40:43 PM EDT

[#10]

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Nice. The trapdoor is kinda cool, hows the condition?

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The condition is pretty good. Blueing is gone on the butt plate, there is some discoloration on the side plate and some marks near the muzzle. IT is otherwise entirely blued and case colored. Cartouche is legible. The bayonet has rust spots I am currently removing, but otherwise the blueing is even good on it.

I don't have very good light for better photos right now.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:41:57 PM EDT

[#11]

Very nice.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:44:50 PM EDT

[#12]

Love the Newton. That era of sporting rifles was so cool.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:47:19 PM EDT

[#13]

Love me some Springfield! Kook!

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:47:38 PM EDT

[#14]

That Newton is sweet.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:48:05 PM EDT

[#15]

I also got a very old lever action Marlin in .32 rimfire. I have not done much research on it yet. The finish on it is mostly gone, but it is still in firing condition.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:50:02 PM EDT

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A Newton Arms? You don't see that very often. Stuart Otteson wrote them up in one of his The Bolt Action Rifle books. I noticed it has a Weaver 330 scope on it. Keep that scope. The guys who wants to build replica 1903A-4s snatch them up all the time.

Posted: 9/22/2014 9:54:35 PM EDT

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A Newton Arms? You don't see that very often. Stuart Otteson wrote them up in one of his The Bolt Action Rifle books. I noticed it has a Weaver 330 scope on it. Keep that scope. The guys who wants to build replica 1903A-4s snatch them up all the time.

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Yep, it has a post rather than cross hairs (I don't know anything about them except I really like old Weaver scopes). I'd guess he put that on there in the 40s. The rifle had a side mounted sight at some point.

Posted: 9/23/2014 12:32:15 AM EDT

[#18]

Looking at the Marlins now, the shotgun is a Model 28, and the lever rifle is a Model 1892.

Posted: 9/23/2014 12:43:27 AM EDT

[#19]

Cool guns OP.
The scope on that Newton would fetch a pretty penny if you ever decided to sell it but I wouldn't if it was mine.

Posted: 9/23/2014 12:47:52 AM EDT

[#20]

Cool guns

Posted: 9/23/2014 12:54:23 AM EDT

[#21]

Nice Firearms

Posted: 9/23/2014 1:45:52 AM EDT

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Cool guns OP.

The scope on that Newton would fetch a pretty penny if you ever decided to sell it but I wouldn't if it was mine.

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I won't be selling any of it.

Posted: 9/23/2014 1:55:19 AM EDT

[#23]

Newton, that's a very very special gun.

Posted: 9/23/2014 1:57:06 AM EDT

[#24]

That Ithica is a great 20 GA.

Posted: 9/23/2014 2:01:58 AM EDT

[#25]

Sweet

Posted: 9/23/2014 2:02:01 AM EDT

[#26]

Nice. Pass 'em on to the set of rugrats in the same condition. And shoot them if you can.

Posted: 9/23/2014 2:34:19 AM EDT

[#27]

I love those old trap doors.

I only have 3, but I want MOAR!

Posted: 9/23/2014 3:03:30 AM EDT

[#28]

SWEET

Posted: 9/23/2014 3:06:45 AM EDT

[#29]

thats awesome!

Posted: 9/23/2014 9:30:59 AM EDT

[#30]

Really nice!

Posted: 9/23/2014 9:51:54 PM EDT

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Nice. Pass 'em on to the set of rugrats in the same condition. And shoot them if you can.

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Yup. Keep them in your family.
I also have a model 1884 made in 1886.
If you decide to shoot it, be aware that with modern smokless powders it needs reduced loads. Reloading manuals will have a seperate section for 45-70 trapdoor loads.
Mine has a slightly oversized bore. With standard 45-70 lead bullets it will keyhole targets even at 50 yards. That problem was solved by casting lead bullets with a 405 grain, .459 diameter, hollow base Lee mold.
If it has the original short front sight, it will hit very high at 100 yards. The rifles were originally set up for 300 yard zero. Extra tall front sight blades are available. You install the tall blade and then file it down to where it hits where you want.
One place for parts for old guns is http://www.ssfirearms.com/

Posted: 9/26/2014 8:15:57 PM EDT

[#32]

Thanks for the info on the sight blades, that'll help a bunch. I've shot all the others before.

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