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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:33:13 PM EDT
Once the commies have a firmer grasp on power, expect them to make obungocare (or the future 100% govt run successor) to work by withdrawing all care from anyone over 75
Why I Hope to Die at 75 An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly Ezekiel J. Emanuel http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/09/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/ Too bad that asshole doesn't cut it off now and shoot himself. 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:36:33 PM EDT
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Decent movie. I liked the storyline.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:37:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Once the commies have a firmer grasp on power, expect them to make obungocare (or the future 100% govt run successor) to work by withdrawing all care from anyone over 75 Why I Hope to Die at 75 An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly Ezekiel J. Emanuel http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/09/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/ Too bad that asshole doesn't cut it off now and shoot himself.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSUAAKFLoL0What I got from that article is he's too fucking vain, and too scared to get old. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:39:27 PM EDT
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Once the commies have a firmer grasp on power, expect them to make obungocare (or the future 100% govt run successor) to work by withdrawing all care from anyone over 75 Why I Hope to Die at 75 An argument that society and families—and you—will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly Ezekiel J. Emanuel http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/09/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/ Too bad that asshole doesn't cut it off now and shoot himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSUAAKFLoL0I was rather hoping for a murder suicide, first his dickhead brother and than himself 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:41:00 PM EDT
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This is the asshole behind ObamaCare, too.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:42:34 PM EDT
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This is the asshole behind ObamaCare, too. Very true. But someone will be along shortly to claim otherwise! |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:43:14 PM EDT
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The way I live, no way I'll make it to 75 anyway. Lol.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:45:54 PM EDT
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WHO the fuck hopes to die???
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:46:24 PM EDT
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This story reminds me more of Soylent Green, where the guy goes to the euthanasia clinic.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:47:20 PM EDT
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Renew! Renew!
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:27:01 PM EDT
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I'm okay with that. . . . As a wise man once said, “Old people don't need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so that it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.”
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:52:50 PM EDT
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And what if nature decides that I live to be a hundred? Like my grandpaw who was mowing over an acre of property and walking around great well into his 90's. That is until fuckstick garbage men used our yard to back up and turn around and he broke his hip driving over the ruts.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:05:05 PM EDT
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Once the commies have a firmer grasp on power, expect them to make obungocare (or the future 100% govt run successor) to work by withdrawing all care from anyone over 75 Do that. Give me no hope of living much longer. See what I do with that. 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:09:56 PM EDT
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...and the calliope crashed to the ground.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:11:17 PM EDT
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The way I live, no way I'll make it to 75 anyway. Lol. For me its genetics. We tend to die young. I'll be lucky to hit sixty. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:12:58 PM EDT
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By the time I'm 75 I probably won't want to live here anyway.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:14:01 PM EDT
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Funny that you should bring this up. I was talking with my Dad last summer and he told me that he had previously thought that 75 would be a good age to die at. "How do you feel about that idea now?" I asked him. "Well, I'm thinking that I'm not so sure of that now." he responded. Dad turned 77 in June. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:44:54 PM EDT
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I know a few 75yr olds that might not go so easy
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:47:35 PM EDT
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I know a few 75yr olds that might not go so easy they're not going to kill you, they're just going to refuse to pay (and/or make it illegal for) doctors to treat you |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:48:14 PM EDT
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Sarah Palin was not asked for comment.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:55:36 PM EDT
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Sarah Palin was not asked for comment. When I want to listen to a cunt, I'll blow it full of air and wait for it to queef. Otherwise, cunts should just remain silent. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:03:05 PM EDT
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There's a guy at my gun club that I see cyclingall over the place (on a Pinarello racing bike no less) . I guessed he was around his late 50s...... found out from another member that he's 75. If you're still kicking ass at 75, why would you want to die?
I think herr Doktor would like to be the person telling others when their time is up. Semper Fi |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:13:07 PM EDT
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There's a guy at my gun club that I see cyclingall over the place (on a Pinarello racing bike no less) . I guessed he was around his late 50s...... found out from another member that he's 75. If you're still kicking ass at 75, why would you want to die? I think herr Doktor would like to be the person telling others when their time is up. Semper Fi I was at a trail running race a few weeks ago...10 miles, decent hills, and pretty hot day. Last finisher was in his mid to late 80's. A few other racers were making some comments wondering why he was still competing. I replied back that I hope I can when I'm his age! By the way, don't try and tell my 89 year old grandfather he can't do something... Might as well be an engraved invitation to get him to try it. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:00:32 PM EDT
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The author of the article is spot on. We get too many dimension with heart disease, COPD, and kidney failure that the family insists we treat to the full extent of medical ability. It's SICK to do this. The outcomes are zero'd, the quality of life is near zero, and the money and time spent is incredible. We should simply, socially, say "enough".
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:37:29 PM EDT
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Well than why stop with age 75. What about anyone with a BMI over 25, or an IQ under 100. It just be a waste to spend money on a fat ass or idiot. Why don't we start with your family, or your state first.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:21:43 AM EDT
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Well than why stop with age 75. What about anyone with a BMI over 25, or an IQ under 100. It just be a waste to spend money on a fat ass or idiot. Why don't we start with your family, or your state first. All in good time, comrade. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well than why stop with age 75. What about anyone with a BMI over 25, or an IQ under 100. It just be a waste to spend money on a fat ass or idiot. Why don't we start with your family, or your state first. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:37:06 AM EDT
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Fat and stupid is easier to control, comrade. The intellectuals are always the first to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well than why stop with age 75. What about anyone with a BMI over 25, or an IQ under 100. It just be a waste to spend money on a fat ass or idiot. Why don't we start with your family, or your state first. The intellectuals also never think it'll be them against the wall. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:50:31 AM EDT
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I know a few 75yr olds that might not go so easy I know a few people who might help them... |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:52:45 AM EDT
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In order for the system to work properly the old most die they serve no purpose and are a drain.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:11:57 AM EDT
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Fuck that. Emanuel you are a blithering idiot.
My parents are in their mid 70s and blazing right along just like they were when they were 60. Piss on you, man. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:27:13 AM EDT
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Maybe that socialist prick will get his wish. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:31:39 AM EDT
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Sarah Palin was not asked for comment. yea, no shit. in before the Palin derangement syndrom frothing mouth h8ers |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:34:33 AM EDT
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Liberalism really is a mental disorder. He is a sick, sick motherfucker.
As others have pointed out, Sarah called this what it was years ago, and she was excoriated for it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:34:58 AM EDT
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Maybe that socialist prick will get his wish. Agree. Political leaders and advocates first. Hey, Soros is over eighty, isn't he? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:44:21 AM EDT
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I've got a friend that's 76 and just rode his bicycle from coast to coast.
Fuck you, Emmanuel. Oh, and fuck you Obama, too. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:57:42 AM EDT
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Do that. Give me no hope of living much longer. See what I do with that. Stay as fit and healthy as you can. It seems inevitable that in my lifetime (I'm 40) the communist will leap for the finish line. We have moved quickly in a bad direction and once the rose colored glasses are removed I really don't see a path back from this. I doubt there are enough left in the country with the resolve to elect the people needed to make the hard decisions to pull us back from the brink. I further doubt that there are enough left that will do anything other than go quietly into the night. I like to hope if we get to that last step before the abyss that I will do something other than die in my bed. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:59:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny that you should bring this up. I was talking with my Dad last summer and he told me that he had previously thought that 75 would be a good age to die at. "How do you feel about that idea now?" I asked him. "Well, I'm thinking that I'm not so sure of that now." he responded. Dad turned 77 in June. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:02:43 AM EDT
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85 is the new 75.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:04:39 AM EDT
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Well than why stop with age 75. What about anyone with a BMI over 25, or an IQ under 100. It just be a waste to spend money on a fat ass or idiot. Why don't we start with your family, or your state first. Do you realize GD will be a ghost town with those parameters? What's wrong with you? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:07:31 AM EDT
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WHO the fuck hopes to die???
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:10:07 AM EDT
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Once you become a burden to the system they just let you die.
Need anymore proof that we are just tax slaves? This why purges have happened in many commie countries. Under a commie system those unable to be productive must be eliminated along with anyone who will dissent. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:21:23 AM EDT
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The author of the article is spot on. We get too many dimension with heart disease, COPD, and kidney failure that the family insists we treat to the full extent of medical ability. It's SICK to do this. The outcomes are zero'd, the quality of life is near zero, and the money and time spent is incredible. We should simply, socially, say "enough". We took a vote and said "enough" of you. Your particular contribution to society was found wanting and there's little chance of you improving your current contribution. See how that works? That's what happens when we start allowing others (society) to define for the individual what the individual should contribute. Why not instead allow the individual to determine for themselves when they've had enough of this mortal coil? Oh, because you took their ability to do so away by socializing medical care. And that poor money that gets spent on grandad with kidney failure! The doctors and nurses and syringe factory employees don't get to pump that money back into the economy, they have to take it home and burn it! Oh, it's a waste because that money could be spent instead on someone young who can go one living? Well, if the young require medical care to prolong their life, why aren't we applying the same "let nature take it's course" there as well? The whole "let nature take its course" mentality is warped by hypocrisy. Why does it conveniently only apply to the old and infirm? What about the 30 year old dumbass who can't afford medical care because he majored in feminist studies? Why shouldn't nature take its course with him and he be allowed to die of exposure, malnutrition or lack of medical care because he lacks the ability to provide for and support himself? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:29:02 AM EDT
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This is no surprise to anyone who has followed these socialist assholes.
They have to cull out the elderly, chronically ill, severely disabled and all other citizens who might be a drain on the state. How else to achieve their Utopian society? Many very bright socialists have openly pushed for this over the last century; the most famous being Margaret Sanger and Adolph Hitler. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:39:30 AM EDT
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WHO the fuck hopes to die??? No normal thinking person. Alas from my own observation most of us won't live past about 82. But for this dipshit to want to check out just because he turned 75 but might still be in good health overall is just crazy. We have a lady here at work whose father is 92 and he still works in his garden in the hot summer sun!! Some people are falling apart at 55 while others push on for three or more decades and are still inrelatively good health. We are all going to die but I intend to go when my maker deems it so. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:41:23 AM EDT
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We took a vote and said "enough" of you. Your particular contribution to society was found wanting and there's little chance of you improving your current contribution. See how that works? That's what happens when we start allowing others (society) to define for the individual what the individual should contribute. Why not instead allow the individual to determine for themselves when they've had enough of this mortal coil? Oh, because you took their ability to do so away by socializing medical care. And that poor money that gets spent on grandad with kidney failure! The doctors and nurses and syringe factory employees don't get to pump that money back into the economy, they have to take it home and burn it! Oh, it's a waste because that money could be spent instead on someone young who can go one living? Well, if the young require medical care to prolong their life, why aren't we applying the same "let nature take it's course" there as well? The whole "let nature take its course" mentality is warped by hypocrisy. Why does it conveniently only apply to the old and infirm? What about the 30 year old dumbass who can't afford medical care because he majored in feminist studies? Why shouldn't nature take its course with him and he be allowed to die of exposure, malnutrition or lack of medical care because he lacks the ability to provide for and support himself? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The author of the article is spot on. We get too many dimension with heart disease, COPD, and kidney failure that the family insists we treat to the full extent of medical ability. It's SICK to do this. The outcomes are zero'd, the quality of life is near zero, and the money and time spent is incredible. We should simply, socially, say "enough". We took a vote and said "enough" of you. Your particular contribution to society was found wanting and there's little chance of you improving your current contribution. See how that works? That's what happens when we start allowing others (society) to define for the individual what the individual should contribute. Why not instead allow the individual to determine for themselves when they've had enough of this mortal coil? Oh, because you took their ability to do so away by socializing medical care. And that poor money that gets spent on grandad with kidney failure! The doctors and nurses and syringe factory employees don't get to pump that money back into the economy, they have to take it home and burn it! Oh, it's a waste because that money could be spent instead on someone young who can go one living? Well, if the young require medical care to prolong their life, why aren't we applying the same "let nature take it's course" there as well? The whole "let nature take its course" mentality is warped by hypocrisy. Why does it conveniently only apply to the old and infirm? What about the 30 year old dumbass who can't afford medical care because he majored in feminist studies? Why shouldn't nature take its course with him and he be allowed to die of exposure, malnutrition or lack of medical care because he lacks the ability to provide for and support himself? And how many people have you taken care of in these situation? I've literally had families tell us to "do everything" on their 98 year old cancer riddled, organs in failure, family member because, "He's 98 and he has to live to 100 because he has good genes." At that age you aren't, generally speaking, paying for your medical care, social medicine has taken over. There is a limited supply of money to pay for care, a limited amount of care givers, medications, machines, hospital/hospice beds, and a limited outcome for patients in exchange for a disturbingly long and rocky road for even partial recoveries. These aren't people who need some antibiotics for a pneumonia. These are people who have had long term medical problems to which there is no recovery who have already beaten the average lifespan and now need even more care and will have a poor outcome and near-zero quality of life. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:44:05 AM EDT
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No normal thinking person. Alas from my own observation most of us won't live past about 82. But for this dipshit to want to check out just because he turned 75 but might still be in good health overall is just crazy. We have a lady here at work whose father is 92 and he still works in his garden in the hot summer sun!! Some people are falling apart at 55 while others push on for three or more decades and are still inrelatively good health. We are all going to die but I intend to go when my maker deems it so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WHO the fuck hopes to die??? No normal thinking person. Alas from my own observation most of us won't live past about 82. But for this dipshit to want to check out just because he turned 75 but might still be in good health overall is just crazy. We have a lady here at work whose father is 92 and he still works in his garden in the hot summer sun!! Some people are falling apart at 55 while others push on for three or more decades and are still inrelatively good health. We are all going to die but I intend to go when my maker deems it so. God damn, reading is fucking fundamental (and rare) in this joint. He's not saying he is "checking out". He quite specifically states he won't do that. He said that he isn't going to have major care decisions made to extend his life. He's not going for organ transplant, signing that he doesn't want resuscitation, doesn't want to be on life support, etc. No shame in that. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 12:24:10 PM EDT
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The idiot is taking about any healthcare:
"Flu shots are out. Certainly if there were to be a flu pandemic, a younger person who has yet to live a complete life ought to get the vaccine or any antiviral drugs. A big challenge is antibiotics for pneumonia or skin and urinary infections. Antibiotics are cheap and largely effective in curing infections. It is really hard for us to say no. Indeed, even people who are sure they don’t want life-extending treatments find it hard to refuse antibiotics. But, as Osler reminds us, unlike the decays associated with chronic conditions, death from these infections is quick and relatively painless. So, no to antibiotics." I guess if he gets an infected cut on his finger he is going to let it fester and spread until he dies of gangrene, welcome back 8th century medicine |
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