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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:40:01 PM EDT
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BETA MAG or go home
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:41:26 PM EDT
[#2]
30 rounds
55 gr m193 |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:46:33 PM EDT
[#3]
30 round mag
20 rounds in mag Mag in Carbine If I cannot get it done with 20 rounds ..... something is seriously wrong. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:49:09 PM EDT
[#4]
28 rounds of 62gr Federal Fusion.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:53:51 PM EDT
[#5]
30, 55gr Gold Dots.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:59:35 PM EDT
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg Who makes your stock.... or pistol buffer tube cover? |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:02:37 PM EDT
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BETA MAG or go home Umm.. the is a HD Gun, you should already be at home... 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:08:51 PM EDT
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to the guys voting >40, out of curiosity what kind of scenariofantasy are you preparing for? Most people will never have a scenario that will require more than one magazine, but most people will never have 60 illegals on their back porch like I have. I have a 40 rounder on the rifle and ten 30 round magazines ready to go in a bag. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:11:19 PM EDT
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Does SBR change the legal limit to > 30? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Standard capacity. 30. Not allowed any more than that in my state (no SBR stamp yet  ) , but I do have a backup mag.Does SBR change the legal limit to > 30? Does not apply to NFA firearms. Tacked at the top of the Ohio HTF: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_12/318417_Ohio_s_magazine_limit.html ETA: And would have been fully fixed already, if it wasn't for BS anti-gun lobbyists like the OSHP and the FOP 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:12:54 PM EDT
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One 25 round magazine of 110gr Sierra Pro Hunter 6.8 SPC in my HD carbine with four more magazines on the night stand.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:14:22 PM EDT
[#11]
2 20s loaded with XM193
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:17:33 PM EDT
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Who makes your stock.... or pistol buffer tube cover? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg Who makes your stock.... or pistol buffer tube cover? Thordsden Customs for the sleeve and CAA for the cheek weld. Awesome snug fit Quoted:
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg Hey! That looks familiar! It should look as familiar as the AR in your avatar 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:18:17 PM EDT
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to the guys voting >40, out of curiosity what kind of scenariofantasy are you preparing for? Z-Poc, Mutant Zombie Bikers & Russian Paratroopers 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:19:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Whats up with the poll?
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:22:56 PM EDT
[#15]
30 rds. mk262 mod1
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:24:43 PM EDT
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I voted 30 rounds, but in reality I load 27 rounds (GI mag)....so I know for certain that the mag will easily insert on a closed bolt. It gets a little tight on a closed bolt with 28+ rounds on a GI mag.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:25:33 PM EDT
[#17]
60
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:27:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryI would not trust that mag for HD |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:35:56 PM EDT
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to the guys voting >40, out of curiosity what kind of scenariofantasy are you preparing for? Did not vote but, it is better to have them and not need them then the other way and, read this This was drilled into us back in the day at the Academy. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:41:04 PM EDT
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Did not vote but, it is better to have them and not need them then the other way and, read this This was drilled into us back in the day at the Academy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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to the guys voting >40, out of curiosity what kind of scenariofantasy are you preparing for? Did not vote but, it is better to have them and not need them then the other way and, read this This was drilled into us back in the day at the Academy. But when does the magazine you are using interfere with the weapons ability to be relied on as deadnuts reliable? There is no way that I am gonna trust a beta mag or a surefire mag on my go to HD weapon. If that psycho POS in Colorado would have packed pmags instead of a beta mag, the aftermath would have been much uglier. It's not that hard to grab a couple spare mags and put them in your back pocket when you grab your rifle. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:41:52 PM EDT
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I figure that a couple mags clipped together would be ideal, considering that the only time that I'll ever need to use the HD gun for HD will be at 0200, in the dark, while I'm buck-naked. Not much time to put on pants and my anus doesn't open wide enough to fit a PMAG for backup.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:43:46 PM EDT
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I figure that a couple mags clipped together would be ideal, considering that the only time that I'll ever need to use the HD gun for HD will be at 0200, in the dark, while I'm buck-naked. Not much time to put on pants and my anus doesn't open wide enough to fit a PMAG for backup. I would hope not. 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:44:37 PM EDT
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I would hope not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I figure that a couple mags clipped together would be ideal, considering that the only time that I'll ever need to use the HD gun for HD will be at 0200, in the dark, while I'm buck-naked. Not much time to put on pants and my anus doesn't open wide enough to fit a PMAG for backup. I would hope not. Maybe with some more practice, but right now it just ends in a bloody ass. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:45:26 PM EDT
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Maybe with some more practice, but right now it just ends in a bloody ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I figure that a couple mags clipped together would be ideal, considering that the only time that I'll ever need to use the HD gun for HD will be at 0200, in the dark, while I'm buck-naked. Not much time to put on pants and my anus doesn't open wide enough to fit a PMAG for backup. I would hope not. Maybe with some more practice, but right now it just ends in a bloody ass.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:46:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Colt 6450 with the Sopmod stock, BFG sling and tritium sights I like.
Mags are 5 Colt originals to keep her running smooth. 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:47:21 PM EDT
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Colt 6450 with the Sopmod stock, BFG sling and tritium sights I like. Mags are 5 Colt originals to keep her running smooth. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/TecRsq/My%20Firearms/DSCN0488-1_zps0jsqiprr.jpg That is cool. Any reason why you chose 9 over 5.56 for HD? |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:47:31 PM EDT
[#27]
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But when does the magazine you are using interfere with the weapons ability to be relied on as deadnuts reliable? There is no way that I am gonna trust a beta mag or a surefire mag on my go to HD weapon. If that psycho POS in Colorado would have packed pmags instead of a beta mag, the aftermath would have been much uglier. It's not that hard to pick a couple spare mags and put them in your back pocket when you grab your rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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to the guys voting >40, out of curiosity what kind of scenariofantasy are you preparing for? Did not vote but, it is better to have them and not need them then the other way and, read this This was drilled into us back in the day at the Academy. But when does the magazine you are using interfere with the weapons ability to be relied on as deadnuts reliable? There is no way that I am gonna trust a beta mag or a surefire mag on my go to HD weapon. If that psycho POS in Colorado would have packed pmags instead of a beta mag, the aftermath would have been much uglier. It's not that hard to pick a couple spare mags and put them in your back pocket when you grab your rifle. I'd imagine It is pretty damn hard to focus on putting a mag in a gun when people are shooting at you. Do a search on home invasions. Plenty of cases of 4 or more armed guys doing them on a daily basis. the Walls in most houses aint cover they are concealment BTW. Where are you gonna do your mag change with no cover? Overwhelming firepower is good. Very good. I'd use surefire 60s if they ever get reliable enough, but I have had a few minor problems. I have one stuck in an AR right now. quality 40 round mags are plenty reliable. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:48:06 PM EDT
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That is cool. Any reason why you chose 9 over 5.56 for HD? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Colt 6450 with the Sopmod stock, BFG sling and tritium sights I like. Mags are 5 Colt originals to keep her running smooth. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/TecRsq/My%20Firearms/DSCN0488-1_zps0jsqiprr.jpg That is cool. Any reason why you chose 9 over 5.56 for HD? I am going to guess it has something to do with ammo commonality with his carry pistol and maybe a bit more friendly for the wife/gf to handle. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:49:46 PM EDT
[#29]
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I would not trust that mag for HD Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would not trust that mag for HD It was more of a bad joke. The magazine has some issues for sure. I bought it at normal price during the panic. My HD gun is a CZ SP01 with tlr1s in a FAS1 safe attached to the bed frame. I have to keep my guns secure with 3 and 6 year old boys in the house. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:55:29 PM EDT
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I'd imagine It is pretty damn hard to focus on putting a mag in a gun when people are shooting at you. Do a search on home invasions. Plenty of cases of 4 or more armed guys doing them on a daily basis. the Walls in most houses aint cover they are concealment BTW. Where are you gonna do your mag change with no cover? Overwhelming firepower is good. Very good. I'd use surefire 60s if they ever get reliable enough, but I have had a few minor problems. I have one stuck in an AR right now. quality 40 round mags are plenty reliable. I can't say I've ever had to reload an AR-15 while under fire, but I think I'd rather take my chances with pmags (or GI mags with Magpul followers) over a beta mag or a surefire. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:58:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't say I've ever had to reload an AR-15 while under fire, but I think I'd rather take my chances with pmags (or GI mags with Magpul followers) over a beta mag or a surefire. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd imagine It is pretty damn hard to focus on putting a mag in a gun when people are shooting at you. Do a search on home invasions. Plenty of cases of 4 or more armed guys doing them on a daily basis. the Walls in most houses aint cover they are concealment BTW. Where are you gonna do your mag change with no cover? Overwhelming firepower is good. Very good. I'd use surefire 60s if they ever get reliable enough, but I have had a few minor problems. I have one stuck in an AR right now. quality 40 round mags are plenty reliable. I can't say I've ever had to reload an AR-15 while under fire, but I think I'd rather take my chances with pmags (or GI mags with Magpul followers) over a beta mag or a surefire. My Beta has been flawless but I agree. I'd rather take the 30 round mag. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:58:28 PM EDT
[#32]
None of the above, 28 rounds of 55gr TSX loaded in all mags.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:01:18 PM EDT
[#33]
60 rounds on two jungle taped 30s loaded with 77gr SMKs. Not the best, but I don't have one of those redimag things.
180 more on a plate carrier under the bed. Still another 280 rounds on bandoliers in the closet. For a grand total of 520 rounds
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:08:38 PM EDT
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60 rounds on two jungle taped 30s loaded with 77gr SMKs. Not the best, but I don't have one of those redimag things. 180 more on a plate carrier under the bed. Still another 280 rounds on bandoliers in the closet. For a grand total of 520 rounds I pity the fool that shows up at your doorstep looking for a shootout. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:14:56 PM EDT
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I can't say I've ever had to reload an AR-15 while under fire, but I think I'd rather take my chances with pmags (or GI mags with Magpul followers) over a beta mag or a surefire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd imagine It is pretty damn hard to focus on putting a mag in a gun when people are shooting at you. Do a search on home invasions. Plenty of cases of 4 or more armed guys doing them on a daily basis. the Walls in most houses aint cover they are concealment BTW. Where are you gonna do your mag change with no cover? Overwhelming firepower is good. Very good. I'd use surefire 60s if they ever get reliable enough, but I have had a few minor problems. I have one stuck in an AR right now. quality 40 round mags are plenty reliable. I can't say I've ever had to reload an AR-15 while under fire, but I think I'd rather take my chances with pmags (or GI mags with Magpul followers) over a beta mag or a surefire. Can't argue with you there. 10 years ago I'd be saying 40s were crap and Plastic mags are crap too. all Plastic mags not made in austria and sticking out of an AUG or glock would be hated on. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:15:53 PM EDT
[#36]
30 in the rifle. Hanging with it is an ALICE harness with another 6 loaded magazines.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:36:06 PM EDT
[#37]
30 rd Gen 2 Window PMAG loaded with 62 gr Federal Fusion.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:54:31 PM EDT
[#38]
30 rounds of Federal Fusion.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 4:54:14 AM EDT
[#39]
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Thordsden Customs for the sleeve and CAA for the cheek weld. Awesome snug fit It should look as familiar as the AR in your avatar
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg Who makes your stock.... or pistol buffer tube cover? Thordsden Customs for the sleeve and CAA for the cheek weld. Awesome snug fit Quoted:
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg Hey! That looks familiar! It should look as familiar as the AR in your avatar
Thanks for the info... did you ever hear back from the atf? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:11:20 AM EDT
[#40]
10 rounds, if I run out I grab my other AR, if I run out of THAT I'll grab my PTR91, If I am still fighting after that, maybe god is just telling me that I fucked.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:43:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:45:53 AM EDT
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40 in a 40 round Pmag.
Other loaded mags nearby. Also 20 round mag in the Beretta. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:56:33 AM EDT
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I voted "30", but I actually keep a metal 20 in the pistol and a PMAG 30 in the carbine. It just depends on which one's out of the safe. Ammo is usually M193's and M855's staggered at 2:1. There's better choices I guess, but that'll more than do the job. Out of curiosity, why stagger two types of ammo? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 6:04:52 AM EDT
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25 here, which is a full mag.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:19:02 AM EDT
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20 in the mag well with a couple 30s within arms distance. Same here. Also how I carry it on duty. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:22:51 AM EDT
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20 in the mag well with a couple 30s within arms distance. Same for me. 20 round with MK262, a couple mags with Hornady NATO 75gr TAP and 2-30 round mags of XM193. 400 XM193 on stripper clips. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:27:03 AM EDT
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Same here. Also how I carry it on duty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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20 in the mag well with a couple 30s within arms distance. Same here. Also how I carry it on duty. Are the 20's just because they're slightly easier to handle? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:30:44 AM EDT
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Out of curiosity, why stagger two types of ammo? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I voted "30", but I actually keep a metal 20 in the pistol and a PMAG 30 in the carbine. It just depends on which one's out of the safe. Ammo is usually M193's and M855's staggered at 2:1. There's better choices I guess, but that'll more than do the job. Out of curiosity, why stagger two types of ammo? Differing levels of penetration and expansion out of one indiscriminate mag dump? 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:35:30 AM EDT
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Two.
Just in case the first round is a misfire.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:37:18 AM EDT
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about 56 on the gun http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/yukonboy03/IMG_20140808_145113_024-1_zps78ceb311.jpg That how I do it, but full 60. |
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