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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:09:09 PM EDT
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pg2 familiar!
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:10:03 PM EDT
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In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F/A-18's redeeming attribute is being able to fly twice a day, 7 days a week for weeks on end. F-14 was never that reliable and was lucky to fly 3-4 times a week. You sir are full of shit. We flew F-14's from the boat while underway from morning till late at night, day in day out. Launch, recover, refuel, ect. Where do you get your data from? I was there. You? In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:11:22 PM EDT
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I am in before the OP gets his Norcal intro
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:13:05 PM EDT
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I've seen this happen in person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low I've seen this happen in person. I've seen them do it in a climb from sea level - OP's retarded. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:14:44 PM EDT
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There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F/A-18's redeeming attribute is being able to fly twice a day, 7 days a week for weeks on end. F-14 was never that reliable and was lucky to fly 3-4 times a week. You sir are full of shit. We flew F-14's from the boat while underway from morning till late at night, day in day out. Launch, recover, refuel, ect. Where do you get your data from? I was there. You? In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... No doubt my friend. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:15:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:15:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:15:49 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:16:02 PM EDT
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Considering that the US Navy is doing most of the bombing overseas right now... it seems to be doing that well. Also, Advanced Super Hornet 
http://www.flightstory.net/wp-content/uploads/advanced-super-hornet_5.jpg Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:16:14 PM EDT
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OP thinks the F-35 is a great program.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:16:21 PM EDT
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I doubt he's got any experience with aviation beyond pausing Top Gun during the volleyball scene. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm still curious what background the OP claims, which he bases his opening statements on. Transport Crew Chief is my guess. I doubt he's got any experience with aviation beyond pausing Top Gun during the volleyball scene. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:16:28 PM EDT
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Here comes the pain... Quote HistoryHope not. But would be more fun if OP would come in more. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:16:29 PM EDT
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There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F/A-18's redeeming attribute is being able to fly twice a day, 7 days a week for weeks on end. F-14 was never that reliable and was lucky to fly 3-4 times a week. You sir are full of shit. We flew F-14's from the boat while underway from morning till late at night, day in day out. Launch, recover, refuel, ect. Where do you get your data from? I was there. You? In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... If you actually worked on Turkey's then you would know what a maintenance intensive pig it was, especially the A's and A+'s. You would also know what a pile of shit the TF30 engine was. You would also know that the F-14 had one of the largest NMC and PMC rates of aircraft in the Navy during its hayday. You would also know that the more an aircraft flies the more hour based scheduled maintenance comes due. If you were in an F-14 squadron you would know that the squadron was consistently undermanned. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:18:05 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:20 PM EDT
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OP thinks the F-35 is a great program. No |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:22 PM EDT
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JFC. Argue about the Hornet (and by that, Superhornet too) against current threats, sure. But arguing against the freakin Tomcat? Good God. Could the Hornet have more speed? Sure. Speed is useful. Is speed a game breaker in a fighter? Of course not.
AMRAAM vs Phoenix, AWG-9 vs APG-73 or 79, better Alpha control, better ECCM suite by far, ALE-47 vs whatever the hell chaff flares the Tomcat had, FOTD vs nothing, on and on.....the Tomcat would not be for long vs today's threats. But it did do a mean flyby so there's that. The F/A-18 is not perfect but it is definitely got game. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:38 PM EDT
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OP, why? Just why did you post this shitty steaming pile of shit?
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:48 PM EDT
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It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Holy fuck, a real live intellectual giant posting right here on Arfcom. Please tell us more of your wisdom in aerodynamics! |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:50 PM EDT
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There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F/A-18's redeeming attribute is being able to fly twice a day, 7 days a week for weeks on end. F-14 was never that reliable and was lucky to fly 3-4 times a week. You sir are full of shit. We flew F-14's from the boat while underway from morning till late at night, day in day out. Launch, recover, refuel, ect. Where do you get your data from? I was there. You? In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... The Super Hornet cost per flight hour is 40% of the F-14 Tomcat and requires 75% less labor hours per flight hour. http://www.cnatra.navy.mil/aircraft_f18.htm At least they are cheaper to operate. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:19:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low Lots of wut, but the bolded part is simply factually untrue. I think OP is retarded. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:20:16 PM EDT
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Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Considering that the US Navy is doing most of the bombing overseas right now... it seems to be doing that well. Also, Advanced Super Hornet
http://www.flightstory.net/wp-content/uploads/advanced-super-hornet_5.jpg Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! Yes, and it carries munitions too... "stealthily". |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:21:09 PM EDT
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I've seen them do it in a climb from sea level - OP's retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low I've seen this happen in person. I've seen them do it in a climb from sea level - OP's retarded. Was the aircraft blue? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:21:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. stay in school and keep learning things, you need it |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. Got it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:21:58 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you nothing of actually killing people? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:22:18 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. HAHAHAHAHA! I love the internet! |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:22:26 PM EDT
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Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Considering that the US Navy is doing most of the bombing overseas right now... it seems to be doing that well. Also, Advanced Super Hornet
http://www.flightstory.net/wp-content/uploads/advanced-super-hornet_5.jpg Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! Fuel tank with IRST pod. Not in the Fleet currently. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:23:16 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. Fuckin kids. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:23:37 PM EDT
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Godsdammit, time to get Aero in here.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:24:26 PM EDT
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You might want to get back on the meds OP.
Calm down, help is on the way. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:25:20 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you don't know jack shit about the F-18.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: stay in school and keep learning things, you need it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. stay in school and keep learning things, you need it Enroll in a different school, OP needs his money back for the current one. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:05 PM EDT
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Fuel tank with IRST pod. Not in the Fleet currently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Considering that the US Navy is doing most of the bombing overseas right now... it seems to be doing that well. Also, Advanced Super Hornet
http://www.flightstory.net/wp-content/uploads/advanced-super-hornet_5.jpg Please tell me that's not an NAVY luggage rack???!!! Fuel tank with IRST pod. Not in the Fleet currently. There is that too, but in the picture its an EWP (Enclosed weapon pod)
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:08 PM EDT
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So you nothing of actually killing people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you nothing of actually killing people? So you nothing of written language? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:32 PM EDT
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I've seen this happen in person. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low I've seen this happen in person. A Blue Angel did it on an episode of Mythbusters 1000feet or less off the deck. And I bet he wasn't 10k over sea level either. C'mon, don't you cable TV bro? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:35 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. lol Time to get a refund. Sounds like that "swindle1994' tard we had years back. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:36 PM EDT
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If you actually worked on Turkey's then you would know what a maintenance intensive pig it was, especially the A's and A+'s. You would also know what a pile of shit the TF30 engine was. You would also know that the F-14 had one of the largest NMC and PMC rates of aircraft in the Navy during its hayday. You would also know that the more an aircraft flies the more hour based scheduled maintenance comes due. If you were in an F-14 squadron you would know that the squadron was consistently undermanned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F/A-18's redeeming attribute is being able to fly twice a day, 7 days a week for weeks on end. F-14 was never that reliable and was lucky to fly 3-4 times a week. You sir are full of shit. We flew F-14's from the boat while underway from morning till late at night, day in day out. Launch, recover, refuel, ect. Where do you get your data from? I was there. You? In his defense maintenance hours to flight hours were high towards the end. There were plenty of F-18's in the hanger bay getting worked on as well. Just saying.... If you actually worked on Turkey's then you would know what a maintenance intensive pig it was, especially the A's and A+'s. You would also know what a pile of shit the TF30 engine was. You would also know that the F-14 had one of the largest NMC and PMC rates of aircraft in the Navy during its hayday. You would also know that the more an aircraft flies the more hour based scheduled maintenance comes due. If you were in an F-14 squadron you would know that the squadron was consistently undermanned. I'm not denying any of that. But saying it was only able to fly 3-4 times a week is 
3 to 4 times a day is more like it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:26:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you don't know jack shit about the F-18. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you don't know jack shit about the F-18.  |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ....I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. Ouch! Glad I'm not in those shoes.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:30:50 PM EDT
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So you nothing of written language? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you nothing of actually killing people? So you nothing of written language? I don't need to know how to write well to know how to use a radio to drop a bomb on you. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was the aircraft blue? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low I've seen this happen in person. I've seen them do it in a climb from sea level - OP's retarded. Was the aircraft blue? The one I saw wasn't. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:31:31 PM EDT
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A Blue Angel did it on an episode of Mythbusters 1000feet or less off the deck. And I bet he wasn't 10k over sea level either. C'mon, don't you cable TV bro? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low I've seen this happen in person. A Blue Angel did it on an episode of Mythbusters 1000feet or less off the deck. And I bet he wasn't 10k over sea level either. C'mon, don't you cable TV bro? The Blue Angles F/A-18s are stripped of their weapons (obviously) and any other unnecessary weight. They are not an accurate representation of fleet aircraft capability. Certainly not in a combat situation. http://www.blueangels.navy.mil/show/faq.aspx |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:32:21 PM EDT
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So you nothing of written language? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you nothing of actually killing people? So you nothing of written language? I do. The F-18 has spent the last 13 years doing what it was designed to do at a high misson readiness rate, but I guess you have almost graduated so reality does not matter. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:33:06 PM EDT
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It's only redeeming factor is it's low speed maneuverability.....in a clean configuration.....under 10,000 feet. The F/A-18 is a glorified bomb truck that criminally replaced the greatest carrier based interceptor in history. Also, McDonnell Douglas can suck a dick for playing the generation game with Lockheed. Not one model or variant of the F/A-18 can break the sound barrier under 10,000' in level flight. Boeing crapped themselves when they designed the wing as well. It relies on way to much induced downwash, and drags like no other. Thoughts? Eta: low So are you shoeh8tr's troll account, or is he yours? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:34:20 PM EDT
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I don't need to know how to write well to know how to use a radio to drop a bomb on you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So you nothing of actually killing people? So you nothing of written language? I don't need to know how to write well to know how to use a radio to drop a bomb on you. How is your knowledge and experience using radios applicable in this context? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:34:23 PM EDT
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Due to the incessant nagging and condescending implications derived from the many questions regarding my authority to speak on this subject, I feel that I must admit that I am not a member of the military nor am I a mouth-breathing gamer. I am an unemployed full time student in my fourth and final year studying Aeronautical Engineering. So your saying you have about as much knowledge of the F/A-18 as does your POTUS you voted does running this country?? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:35:04 PM EDT
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im going to sum this up quick and clean
the f-18 family gives us -Multirole power -Superb reliability -Multifunctional, its can be reconfigured to do different jobs quickly, bomber, strike fighter, interceptor, carrier CAP now im a huge phanton fan, i love the f4 and its somke trailing awesomeness, but the f4 served its purpose well, from bombing and strike missions in vietnam, to SEAD in 1st gulf war, but the f18 has taken its roll over and expanded it to levels not capable by the f4. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:36:13 PM EDT
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Kid, just back on out of this thread. In case you haven't figured it out yet, we have pilots, maintainers, engineers, and host of others with real world experience that are just going to smack the shit out of you in this thread over the crap you are posting.
A strategic withdrawal is okay sometimes.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:38:00 PM EDT
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Ah, the young ... who haven't lived long enough to realize how truly ignorant they are.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:39:06 PM EDT
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Salmon, for the mach 1 under 10k bullshit your spewing....guess when I was in the gulf we didn't witness 2 hornets going Mach 1 doing a flyby my ship to boost our morale???
Go back to school and keep your mouth shut and learn something useful. ETA: We heard the sonic boom way after they flew past us. |
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