Erik Prince has a message for ISIS: You’re lucky Blackwater is gone.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Erik Prince has a message for ISIS: You’re lucky Blackwater is gone. (Page 1 of 4)

Posted: 9/20/2014 3:52:20 AM EDT

“It’s a shame the [Obama] administration crushed my old business, because as a private organization, we could’ve solved the boots-on-the-ground issue, we could have had contracts from people that want to go there as contractors; you don’t have the argument of U.S. active duty going back in there,” Prince said in an on-stage discussion featuring retired four-star Gen. James Conway

View Quote

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:04:06 AM EDT

[#1]

Yep.

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:08:20 AM EDT

[#2]

Those damn evil PMCs would have made more peaceful cultures who only want peace and harmony hate us more!!!1

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:09:41 AM EDT

[#3]

Quote History

Quoted:
Those damn evil PMCs would have made more peaceful cultures who only want peace and harmony hate us more!!!1

View Quote

LOL

yep. SOB's

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:11:39 AM EDT

[#4]

I have a friend that was retired Army that kicked ass and made a lot of money working for them in Afghanistan.

I know CSB.

I think what I am trying to say is I agree with him.

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:14:42 AM EDT

[#5]

Quote History

Quoted:
I have a friend that was retired Army that kicked ass and made a lot of money working for them in Afghanistan.

I know CSB.

I think what I am trying to say is I agree with him.

View Quote

There are quite a few people out there that believe that as well.

Posted: 9/20/2014 4:21:30 AM EDT

[#6]

Didn't PMCs do some hard hitting in Rhodesia before the world turned on them?

Posted: 9/20/2014 5:17:46 AM EDT

[#7]

Quote History

Quoted:
Didn't PMCs do some hard hitting in Rhodesia before the world turned on them?

View Quote

The Crippled Eagles

Posted: 9/20/2014 5:30:44 AM EDT

[#8]

Spot on Erik.

Posted: 9/20/2014 5:39:00 AM EDT

[#9]

As a side note, does anyone here know who that is in the pic? Or the story or context of when the pic was originally taken?

This "de-motivational" poster has probably been around for 10 years.

Posted: 9/20/2014 5:56:55 AM EDT

[#10]

Executive Outcomes...they got shit done. Not for the faint of heart, not worried about UCMJ, tribal and rebel forces don't understand anything less than a bullet and a boot and thats what they got. PMC have a spot in low intensity conflicts, no one wants to talk about them but they are needed. IMO

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:00:28 AM EDT

[#11]

Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:01:13 AM EDT

[#12]

So who will fill their shoes?

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:05:02 AM EDT

[#13]

Quote History

Quoted:

Meh.

View Quote

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:44:03 AM EDT

[#14]

We should just send James Yeager/Buck Angel to take out the trash.

Posted: 9/20/2014 7:37:45 AM EDT

[#15]

Isn't this what SF is for? Unless PMCs are used to to enhace current military ops in the region, why give a political administration the opportunity to deny involvement when they are really balls deep. IMHO, Either declare war or don't declare war, stop side stepping the issue.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:00:53 AM EDT

[#16]

Quote History

Quoted:

Meh.

View Quote

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

I disagree.

If you're a 3rd world dictator with the need to stand up a credible fighting force to supplement your army (the one that only gets range time for pistol executions to the back of the head) and crush an enthusiastic, but incompetent rebellion/revolution, mercenaries can be ideal.

ETA; or if you are in an area with militaries that historically lack western discipline, mercs can form the kernel of an effective force.

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:10:05 AM EDT

[#17]

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:20:49 AM EDT

[#18]

Quote History

Quoted:
Executive Outcomes...they got shit done. Not for the faint of heart, not worried about UCMJ, tribal and rebel forces don't understand anything less than a bullet and a boot and thats what they got. PMC have a spot in low intensity conflicts, no one wants to talk about them but they are needed. IMO

View Quote

Do a little reading about Neall Ellis and his MI-24 in Sierra Leone back in the 90s. EO managed to drag the RUF to the bargaining table in a matter of months, after killing large numbers of the rebels.

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:37:48 AM EDT

[#19]

WE KNOW WHY OBAMA GT RID OF BLACKWATER

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:49:17 AM EDT

[#20]

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

On that, I must fling the BULLSHIT flag.

Mercenaries have done an excellent job defending the Pope through hundreds of years of people wanting the zpope's head on a spike,

Mercenaries did wonders in Katanga and Biafra in the 1960s, in Rhodesia in the 1970s, in Siera Leone in the 1990s, and in Iraq and Afghanistan in the 2000s.

Professional soldiiers who fight in return for monetary or other compensation is also the core of the current American model, unless we reinstated conscription last night. Look at all of the modern militaries that follow this model and just how well they do when confronted by an enemy. The men and women who are there want to be there, and that is the first reason for their success.

It is why, since the 1980s America has (or had, if you are pessimistic about its current materiel state) the best military in the world. We no longer rely on short-term conscriptees who often have the worst possible attitude toward military service.

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:49:29 AM EDT

[#21]

Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:01:04 AM EDT

[#22]

Quote History

Quoted:
Isn't this what SF is for?

View Quote

SF's original mission wasn't to do direct warfare but to train indigenous forces to do our dirty work for us.
Things may have changed in the interim, but was the way it was back in the day when I was in the green machine.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:02:57 AM EDT

[#23]

bring back blackwater = no more ISIS in 6 months or less.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:05:11 AM EDT

[#24]

You know how I know you use words you don't know the meaning of?

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:06:19 AM EDT

[#25]

Quote History

Quoted:
Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

View Quote

hes probably not even good at golf

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:06:43 AM EDT

[#26]

Mercenaries might kick IS ass. Or they might end up as bridge ornaments in Fallujah. Fortunes of war and all that.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:07:58 AM EDT

[#27]

obuttywhiff is a mooslum, period...and he's doing his dead-level best to advance the caliphate.

Anyone who can't see that is either batshit blind or just fuqqing stooped.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:10:55 AM EDT

[#28]

Agreed, they were so effective the Clinton administration ended up getting involved and somehow brought their party to a close. The use of (private) offensive air support along with the limited number of guys they had on the ground, put up one hell of a fight and changed the course of things quickly.

Quote History

Quoted:

Do a little reading about Neall Ellis and his MI-24 in Sierra Leone back in the 90s. EO managed to drag the RUF to the bargaining table in a matter of months, after killing large numbers of the rebels.

View Quote View All Quotes

View All Quotes

Quote History

Quoted:

Quoted:
Executive Outcomes...they got shit done. Not for the faint of heart, not worried about UCMJ, tribal and rebel forces don't understand anything less than a bullet and a boot and thats what they got. PMC have a spot in low intensity conflicts, no one wants to talk about them but they are needed. IMO

Do a little reading about Neall Ellis and his MI-24 in Sierra Leone back in the 90s. EO managed to drag the RUF to the bargaining table in a matter of months, after killing large numbers of the rebels.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:10:58 AM EDT

[#29]

Quote History

Quoted:
Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

View Quote

His election strategies. ... well you asked.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:14:15 AM EDT

[#30]

That article was absolute bullshit. Author had quite the opinion that was injected every other sentence.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:14:23 AM EDT

[#31]

Quote History

Quoted:

hes probably not even good at golf

View Quote View All Quotes

View All Quotes

Quote History

Quoted:

Quoted:
Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

hes probably not even good at golf

One quick look at his godawful swing and you can tell he's a duffer who can't break 100.

No, I can't think of one thing Obama hasn't fucked up. He could not be any worse for our country.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:16:00 AM EDT

[#32]

What's preventing him from forming a company offshore and offering services to clients other than the US? There are plenty of American contractors already working on non-American contracts.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:21:54 AM EDT

[#33]

Granting Letters of Marque and Reprisal is one of the Costitutionally delegated powers of Congress.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:23:47 AM EDT

[#34]

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

Mercenaries have been used for millennia, empires have been built and destroyed by them.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:27:34 AM EDT

[#35]

Quote History

Quoted:
What's preventing him from forming a company offshore and offering services to clients other than the US? There are plenty of American contractors already working on non-American contracts.

View Quote

Because he would be labeled as a terrorist, or some such nonsense?

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:42:06 AM EDT

[#36]

Quote History

Quoted:

Mercenaries have been used for millennia, empires have been built and destroyed by them.

View Quote View All Quotes

View All Quotes

Quote History

Quoted:

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

Mercenaries have been used for millennia, empires have been built and destroyed by them.

100%

I is high time they are used once again in the shitholes of this world. ISIS folks need killing.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:43:40 AM EDT

[#37]

Instead of using mercenaries, we could change what is holding the US Military back and let them do what they do. Or we continue on our current path and field the most technologically advanced force of transgendered, women-led, SHARP-briefed front-line combat troops the world has ever seen.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:44:26 AM EDT

[#38]

Quote History

Quoted:

Meh.

View Quote

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

Yes! To heck with the facts!

Even the word "mercenary" is scary and should be banned!

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:47:36 AM EDT

[#39]

Quote History

Quoted:
His election strategies. ... well you asked.

View Quote View All Quotes

View All Quotes

Quote History

Quoted:

Quoted:

Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

His election strategies. ... well you asked.

He managed to get elected in spite of 2x, the last time in spite of all the scandals and fail from the first time.

And the new numbers indicate the republicans won't be taking anything over anytime soon.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:48:45 AM EDT

[#40]

Quote History

Quoted:

What's preventing him from forming a company offshore and offering services to clients other than the US? There are plenty of American contractors already working on non-American contracts.

View Quote

They would harm mooslims, he doesn't want that.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:50:23 AM EDT

[#41]

I agree with him.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:51:21 AM EDT

[#42]

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

Care to elaborate?

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:52:56 AM EDT

[#43]

Quote History

Quoted:

Instead of using mercenaries, we couldchange what is holding the US Military back and let them do what they do. Or we continue on our current path and field the most technologically advanced force of transgendered, women-led, SHARP-briefed front-line combat troops the world has ever seen.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

View Quote

We could get both.

The problem is Obama doesn't want to "win" anything. Or stop anything from destroying the country.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:54:07 AM EDT

[#44]

Quote History

Quoted:
So who will fill their shoes?

View Quote

Don't worry, Obama's people will keep us safe.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:54:15 AM EDT

[#45]

I generally love private enterprise solutions.

Set parameters for success (number of dead ISIS, retaking captured territory, first Starbucks opens in Mecca). Solicit bids. Select proposal. Measure results. Repeat as necessary.

As a nation, we have become way to concerned about political correctness, and not concerned enough about killing mother fuckers who want to kill us.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:55:44 AM EDT

[#46]

Quote History

Quoted:
Does anyone know of one thing Øbama hasn't fucked up?

View Quote

Off hand?.............no.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:56:20 AM EDT

[#47]

Quote History

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

View Quote

This Swiss disagrees

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:57:41 AM EDT

[#48]

Quote History

Quoted:

This Swiss disagrees

View Quote View All Quotes

View All Quotes

Quote History

Quoted:

Quoted:
Meh.

Mercenaries usually aren't a good idea in the long run.

For anything.

This Swiss disagrees

Hell, the Vatican disagrees.

Posted: 9/20/2014 10:00:46 AM EDT

[#49]

Quote History

Quoted:
What's preventing him from forming a company offshore and offering services to clients other than the US? There are plenty of American contractors already working on non-American contracts.

View Quote

Because he would draw the wrath of Eric Holder.