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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:49:16 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a new one. Or for $25K, a MG or two. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:20:34 AM EDT
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At least you know it works. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:30:05 AM EDT
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Still, he was a sick ph*c who needed taking out and I'm glad he was obliged. Yes he was, but not vis-à-vis the normal "sick fuck" reasons. Autopsy (requested by Whitman in the letter he wrote before the shootings) revealed he had a large tumor in his brain. He had been undergoing pshycological treatment and had asked to see a neurologist, but the pshrink wouldn't authorize it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:39:13 AM EDT
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Just as a matter of interest......
As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:52:22 AM EDT
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Is that a Randall I'm looking at?
Knife guys? |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:05:06 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a new one. id rather buy a machine gun registered lower. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:01:54 PM EDT
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6mm is best mm. I have one in Remington 788. All the fudd looks with teir 1 range and accuracy. I have a Browning Model B78 in 6mm. It is a really nice caliber. Shame they no longer make rifles for it. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:14:55 PM EDT
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If he wants that kind of money he needs more than serial numbers. Also the market for this gun is about as wide as a Keats ass. Would make more donating it to a crime museum/Smithsonian and writing off on taxes.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:25:10 PM EDT
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:30:55 PM EDT
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Bad Shoot
Bad MOJO with said weapon |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 12:37:41 PM EDT
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I had always heard there was a pretty consistent hail of .22 LR pinning him down also Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. Texan's aint necessarily known to run away from a gun fight. 
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:06:40 PM EDT
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. They almost killed the guys sneaking up on him too since the fire was pretty indiscriminate. I believe there was a guy firing from a plane that was circling overhead. Whitman actually took a shot at him and hit the wing next to him and the pilot pulled out. If nothing else, Whitman was a really good shot. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:21:43 PM EDT
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should be destroyed 
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:25:50 PM EDT
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Texan's aint necessarily known to run away from a gun fight.
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. Texan's aint necessarily known to run away from a gun fight.
There will be many eyes rolled at that comment, but people need to keep in mind the fact that those men more than likely had grandparents who lived with the threat of indian attacks hovering over their heads. The Texan of the 1960s, is not the Texan of today. Those were the men that drove a truck, because they needed and wore cowboy hats for the shade it provided, rather than a fashion statement. Unfortunately, those old guys are getting fewer every year, while liberal immigrants are steadily increasing. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 1:31:42 PM EDT
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I have a Browning Model B78 in 6mm. It is a really nice caliber. Shame they no longer make rifles for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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6mm is best mm. I have one in Remington 788. All the fudd looks with teir 1 range and accuracy. I have a Browning Model B78 in 6mm. It is a really nice caliber. Shame they no longer make rifles for it. They make them but it will cost you 
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Posted: 9/20/2014 2:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: should be destroyed No, it should not. The rifle is not evil... it is the person. With your logic every M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, Mauser, and Mosin Nagant shoukd be destroyed because they might have been used in killing someone.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 2:39:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Yup, citizens with firearms helped stop the killing.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 2:54:37 PM EDT
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As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The owner of a gun shop located near by supplied rifles and cartridges so people could pin him down. That would be a Federal crime today unless the proper paperwork was completed and official permission for the transfer was obtained ... |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 3:13:40 PM EDT
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Kinda strange really....
wonder how this person got it.... |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 3:13:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The owner of a gun shop located near by supplied rifles and cartridges so people could pin him down. That would be a Federal crime today unless the proper paperwork was completed and official permission for the transfer was obtained ... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The owner of a gun shop located near by supplied rifles and cartridges so people could pin him down. That would be a Federal crime today unless the proper paperwork was completed and official permission for the transfer was obtained ... When I was a kid about 6-7 years old (Around 72-73) I remember one of the clerks or the owner at Bernabos gun store in Newburgh NY telling a guy to take a rifle --try it out and if he wasnt pleased with it he would not have to buy it. Now Joe Bernabo probably knew the guy but still. It wasnt till later on in the 80's things like that stopped being done -- a mans word or reputation counted for little anymore. They did not have to "DO SOMETHING" and pass a whole plethora of new laws afterward for one sick persons bad actions either. Today nancy pelosi et al would be dancing in the blood of the victims on CNN as soon as the all clear was given. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a Randall I'm looking at? Knife guys? |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:35:58 PM EDT
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If a firearm is used in a crime and the dipshit is found guilty, the gat is off to the CHOP SHOP here.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:39:15 PM EDT
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should be destroyed No. Just... no.  No more than Auschwitz or the various "Old Sparkys" should be destroyed. Is it a nice thing to have? Would I like to have it? No on both counts. But these are important artifacts, and destroying them is the work of children trying to keep the boogeyman at bay, not grown-ups facing up to the world as it is. Was just an auction ~5 years ago for the guns of Bonnie & Clyde; should they have been destroyed, too?
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. And this. Sure do wish I could have been there, doing some "ranging" shots so's I could have his range dialed in when he stuck his head up... 
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Posted: 9/20/2014 8:42:13 PM EDT
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"Just a little background on this. Charles Whitman was a Marine who went up on the University of Texas Tower and began shooting people in 1966. He killed around 16 and wounded almost 40. I am in search of those guns and am very interested in purchasing them. This is what I have so far. A man named Wayne Buxton purchased the guns from an estate sale of a rich oil man from Wichita Falls, Texas that died and then ran an ad in Shotgun News in 1989 and sold them all. I got in touch with Mr. Buxton in an attempt to find out who he sold them to and his shop at the time burned down and there are no records, receipts of who bought them. For some reason Mr. Buxton caught all kinds of hell over selling the guns which I do not understand as they have a significant historical value. No one gets upset over JW Booth's guns or Oswald's rifle. Anyway, Mr. Buxton's original shop burned down along with all his receipts and records and does not remember the name of the guy who bought them. Apparently the oil guy had a massive collection of firearms but Buxton just wanted the Whitman guns. Buxton low balled the estate attorneys with a 1000 dollar bid thinking they'd never go for that low a price and was shocked when he found out his bid was the winning bid!! He just recalls that the guy who bought them was in his 30s or 40s in 1989 and paid 4500 dollars for the entire collection and was from a small town in Texas not like Houston or Dallas. Mr. Buxton was happy to get rid of them and make a profit. People were calling him at all hours of the night and sending hateful letters. Granted this was a tragic event, but it is an historical one. If anyone on here knows who is in possession of those firearms please let me know. I want to purchase them but if that is not possible I'd like to photograph them in the condition they are today. Thanks to anyone who can help!" He killed 17. His last victim died in 2001 from complications of getting shot that day. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:00:20 PM EDT
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6mm is best mm. I have one in Remington 788. All the fudd looks with teir 1 range and accuracy. I used to have a 6mm 788 too. Many, many years ago. Most accurate rifle Ill probably ever own. Only reason I traded it off was it didn't always feed real well out of the magazines &, in my youthful arrogance, thought .243 was the superior 6mm
If I could buy that same rifle back today & pay a handsome premium for it. .243 is far from a sub par cartridge, but I do think 6 rem in a 788 is superior, for average out of the box rifles. 6mm bullets have a lot to offer in the way of ballistics... |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:05:10 PM EDT
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Yep, kept the casualties down. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:06:58 PM EDT
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If a firearm is used in a crime and the dipshit is found guilty, the gat is off to the CHOP SHOP here. Danny What if the gun was stolen? They don't try and locate the rightful owner? They just destroy it? |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:25:30 PM EDT
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Yep, kept the casualties down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Yep, kept the casualties down. The libs need to understand the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun(and the balls to fight back). |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:51:26 AM EDT
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Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. that's not always a good thing. Look up Mark Essex and read how bad it got when everyone with a rifle showed up and started shooting at each other. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:15:02 PM EDT
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that's not always a good thing. Look up Mark Essex and read how bad it got when everyone with a rifle showed up and started shooting at each other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. that's not always a good thing. Look up Mark Essex and read how bad it got when everyone with a rifle showed up and started shooting at each other. oops.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's not always a good thing. Look up Mark Essex and read how bad it got when everyone with a rifle showed up and started shooting at each other. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Always worth mentioning. Good on the folks who shot back. that's not always a good thing. Look up Mark Essex and read how bad it got when everyone with a rifle showed up and started shooting at each other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Essex Damn Seeing the story on TV, Lt. General Chuck Pitman of the USMC offered the use of a military helicopter to assist the police officers. The helicopter was loaded with armed men and dispatched to the hotel. By this time, Essex had retreated up to the roof of the building where he and the helicopter exchanged many rounds over many hours. As nightfall came, Essex managed to hole himself up in a concrete cubicle that would protect him in the Southeast side of the roof. As he stepped out once again in the open to fire again on the helicopter, and after hitting the helicopter's transmission, Essex was barraged with fatal gunfire from police sharpshooters on the roofs of adjacent buildings as well as the automatic weapons aboard the helicopter. An autopsy later revealed more than 200 gunshot wounds. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:10:38 PM EDT
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should be destroyed
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:19:47 PM EDT
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Definitely an interesting piece. I'd be tempted if I had a ton of money to burn. It really doesn't do you any good to buy it though unless you display it. Sitting in a safe it really has no value. And you'd have to be comfortable displaying something like that with such a bloody history.
That being said, EVERYONE remotely into firearms knows about that incident. And many people who aren't into firearms know it as well. It's sorta neat to own an item so integral to a major historical event, even if it is notorious and criminal. I'd imagine oswald's rifle would be worth a fortune |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:25:25 PM EDT
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Thought firearms used in a homicide were kept as evidence indefinitely, especially one with the history of this rifle. Guess maybe back then it could have been passed around and eventually forgotten. Regardless, not a firearm I'd be interested in owning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How is this possible? Someone owns the rifle, and they want to sell it. I can't for the life of me see anyone paying $25 K for it, but there are some strange people out there. Thought firearms used in a homicide were kept as evidence indefinitely, especially one with the history of this rifle. Guess maybe back then it could have been passed around and eventually forgotten. Regardless, not a firearm I'd be interested in owning. Jack Ruby's gun was auctioned a few years ago. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 12:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jack Ruby's gun was auctioned a few years ago. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:42:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The libs need to understand the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun(and the balls to fight back). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just as a matter of interest...... As the news reports went out about the shooting, and reports of people being penned down by the rifle fire, many Texas citizens showed up with their deer rifles and started shooting at Whitman. The amount of incoming fire caused him to have to keep his head down and prevented him killing additional innocent people. The incoming gunfire also distracted him enough to allow some men to sneak up on him and kill him with gunfire. Yep, kept the casualties down. The libs need to understand the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun(and the balls to fight back). So true. Those good ole boys with deer rifles saved some lives that day. As I recall, Whitman was a good guy. He had some sort of brain tumor that made him insane, and resulted in him shooting these innocent people. I lean not on my understanding...
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:15:38 PM EDT
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Interesting, if not dark, piece of history.
The only cop killed (or maybe the first, not sure) by Whitman was my wife's dad's partner. They were among the first to respond and he was right next to him when he was shot. 
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:34:14 PM EDT
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Interesting, if not dark, piece of history. The only cop killed (or maybe the first, not sure) by Whitman was my wife's dad's partner. They were among the first to respond and he was right next to him when he was shot. People think he did it from the tower with a rifle Truth is, a fair number of his kills were on the way TO his sniper position. His family members for example. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:49:19 PM EDT
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6mm !
Guy really did know his beeswax |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 2:57:22 PM EDT
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How many here have laughed at Liberals for being scared or creeped out by guns? Even though they’re inanimate objects? That rifle didn’t do the shooting, the man holding it did. It’s wood and steel. That’s it.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 3:11:49 PM EDT
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Serial number of rifle and scope in pic at link. GUNS FOUND AROUND BODY: Remington Model 700 - 6MM, Bolt action #149037, with Leupold four power - M8-4X scope, cheek stock (serial #61384) and leather strap. Sears 12 gauge 2.75 chamber automatic shotgun, barrel and stock, both sawed off Remington 35 caliber model 141 pump #1859 rifle U. S. Carbine 30 caliber M-1 Universal #69799 with Webb sling. 357 Mag Smith and Weston 4.5 barrel, chrome, Model 19 #K391583 9MM Luger #2010 6.35 MM Caliber Automatic pistol- Galesi-brescia #366869 https://texasguntrader.com/db/tgt_pics4578139.jpg https://texasguntrader.com/db/tgt_pics8266238.jpg http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1017.jpg I would take that Randall #1... |
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