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Posted: 4/5/2015 8:43:42 AM EDT
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars .  Accuracy, speed, power. Maybe bullseye competition would be more your style. 
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Posted: 4/5/2015 8:47:30 AM EDT
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . Hit Factor scoring. Your total points are divided by your time = your hit factor. Every required hit on a target that is a miss is minus 10 points. Where as every required hit is a maximum score of 5 points. So basically if you run blazing fast through a stage and have a miss or two you might win the stage. It comes down to how much accuracy can you give up for a little speed. Remember the clock is EATING your shot points. Pick your poison. Many USPSA shooters can shoot Alphas all day long and so can anyone else. It's speed that makes the competitive part about it. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 11:06:57 AM EDT
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Shot my first match in over a year
I sucked but got better as the match went along. My own fault because I did not get any range time with my G34 before the match. I shot one stage with my G19 just for fun, I did better with the G19 prob because It's my carry gun and I shoot it monthly. The best thing about shooting the match was that I realized how much I missed shooting USPSA. So if you have not attended a match in a while, get out there and do it !! |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 12:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  https://youtu.be/_H7lwzMeWboTrigger freeze got me on the last stage or it would have really kicked ass  nice shooting. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 12:31:17 PM EDT
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https://youtu.be/_H7lwzMeWbo
Trigger freeze got me on the last stage or it would have really kicked ass Haha I had that happen to me on one of my stages yesterday. It was on the last target which I had jumped out to get, so I had to jump back in. Everyone laughed at my little dance. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 12:34:36 PM EDT
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . If they complemented your accuracy, that's a polite way of saying you went too slow. 
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Posted: 4/5/2015 12:35:00 PM EDT
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Club match today. 22 Production shooters Place: 1st 
5th/68 combined. I also shot 71% and 78% on the classifiers. Nicely done! 
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Posted: 4/5/2015 12:39:53 PM EDT
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If they complemented your accuracy, that's a polite way of saying you went too slow.
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . If they complemented your accuracy, that's a polite way of saying you went too slow.
USPSA emphasizes speed a little more than accuracy. Yep, your score is points/time. Look at the graph of 1/x and you'll see that it isn't linear. You need to find the right balance of missing fast.
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Posted: 4/5/2015 4:04:48 PM EDT
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Looks like a tough match. Nice work on the 1st place. We shot a Classifier match yesterday up at ACC. Shot two divisions Limited and Production. Should make A in Prod and A in Limited (hopefully)...we shall see~! https://practiscore.com/results.php?uuid=6848abdb-4ea5-48f0-b06b-745b7e3477e3 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trigger freeze got me on the last stage or it would have really kicked ass Looks like a tough match. Nice work on the 1st place. We shot a Classifier match yesterday up at ACC. Shot two divisions Limited and Production. Should make A in Prod and A in Limited (hopefully)...we shall see~! https://practiscore.com/results.php?uuid=6848abdb-4ea5-48f0-b06b-745b7e3477e3 Nice! I should be close to 80% after the next update if I did the math right (and classifier Calc was accurate). Two major matches in the next six weeks. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 7:25:33 PM EDT
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Nice Job AJE.
I wanted to shoot today. But couldn't. Had a nice day at the beach with wife and dag instead. Which was great too! |
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Posted: 4/10/2015 7:46:19 PM EDT
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Battle in the Bluegrass is in the books. 10 stages... 279 rounds... 278 hits (damn swinger). Reasonable times. Videos up later.
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Posted: 4/10/2015 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Battle in the Bluegrass is in the books. 10 stages... 279 rounds... 278 hits (damn swinger). Reasonable times. Videos up later. How many shots?
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Posted: 4/10/2015 10:11:10 PM EDT
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A few more than that. I sucked on the steel for some reason, that's usually a strong point.
The poppers weren't calibrated very well on this stage, so I got to re shoot it. I wiffed the first one but nailed the rest. Saved about five seconds on my reshoot time
Still way too many charlies but the time was pretty decent compared to the rest of the squad. All the videos are uploaded, I'll wait until the scores are out to edit them together. Other than some jerkiness, I only had a plan fall apart once, caused by makeup shots on steel, causing some slide lock reloads. 
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Posted: 4/10/2015 10:16:48 PM EDT
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This one went OK
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Posted: 4/12/2015 3:05:45 AM EDT
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Here's the whole match
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Posted: 4/12/2015 11:00:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell done, sir. Is that a GoPro you are running? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 12:07:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2015 12:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySo I imagine you make a plan when you do your walk through before you shoot. How close to you plan do you usually stick with? Or does it usually all go out the window and you just shoot? Do you memorize where all of the targets are and get your footwork down? Or are you just moving and scanning when the timer starts? I haven't shot any of the bigger stages outside yet. The smaller indoor stages seem fairly simple to plan out and stick with it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 12:29:36 PM EDT
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So I imagine you make a plan when you do your walk through before you shoot. How close to you plan do you usually stick with? Or does it usually all go out the window and you just shoot? Do you memorize where all of the targets are and get your footwork down? Or are you just moving and scanning when the timer starts? I haven't shot any of the bigger stages outside yet. The smaller indoor stages seem fairly simple to plan out and stick with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do you memorize where all of the targets are and get your footwork down? Or are you just moving and scanning when the timer starts? I haven't shot any of the bigger stages outside yet. The smaller indoor stages seem fairly simple to plan out and stick with it. If you want to do well you have to get a plan together and stick with it. I try to walk through several times visualize it several times before I go. There is something to the phrase "A crappy plan executed perfectly is better than a great plan executed poorly" A good example of that falling apart was stage 4... I missed on the steel too many times and went to slide lock twice, causing unplanned slide lock reloads and screwing up my last array (the last two targets I leaned out and took around a wall when I could have just stood where I was a couple steps before). That was a scatter brain moment. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 1:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to do well you have to get a plan together and stick with it. I try to walk through several times visualize it several times before I go. There is something to the phrase "A crappy plan executed perfectly is better than a great plan executed poorly" A good example of that falling apart was stage 4... I missed on the steel too many times and went to slide lock twice, causing unplanned slide lock reloads and screwing up my last array (the last two targets I leaned out and took around a wall when I could have just stood where I was a couple steps before). That was a scatter brain moment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you memorize where all of the targets are and get your footwork down? Or are you just moving and scanning when the timer starts? I haven't shot any of the bigger stages outside yet. The smaller indoor stages seem fairly simple to plan out and stick with it. If you want to do well you have to get a plan together and stick with it. I try to walk through several times visualize it several times before I go. There is something to the phrase "A crappy plan executed perfectly is better than a great plan executed poorly" A good example of that falling apart was stage 4... I missed on the steel too many times and went to slide lock twice, causing unplanned slide lock reloads and screwing up my last array (the last two targets I leaned out and took around a wall when I could have just stood where I was a couple steps before). That was a scatter brain moment. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 1:30:56 PM EDT
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The diagrams are not always enough to get a good plan together. Sometimes the diagram is accurate with the layout but the stage looks nothing like what you thought it would.
Here is the link with all of the diagrams before the match. Stage 6 for example, looked like it was going to be much tougher with longer and tight shots but it ended up being very fast and close. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 2:44:50 AM EDT
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Practice today was on partials at 12-13 yards.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:34:17 AM EDT
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Im hoping to make a few USPSA matches this year and put the limited gun (avatar) to use. There are a lot of matches on the Indiana Multigun series this year, so they may be a little hard to coordinate but I should be able to hit a few.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:20:57 AM EDT
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We shot yesterday. Working bugs out and trying our new gun and holsters. Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. She shot with her left hand for the first time. April 19? I think that's our first match.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:44:57 AM EDT
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Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:50:27 AM EDT
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I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
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Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
See sigline. 
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:58:57 AM EDT
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Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
See sigline. That's also on my priority list...higher than a 34, too. It's a daily battle not to sell my M1A for a PVS-14. College budgets suck. 
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Posted: 4/13/2015 2:47:50 PM EDT
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That's also on my priority list...higher than a 34, too. It's a daily battle not to sell my M1A for a PVS-14. College budgets suck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
See sigline. That's also on my priority list...higher than a 34, too. It's a daily battle not to sell my M1A for a PVS-14. College budgets suck. I've got enough holsters and unused/new parts in the war room to easily get that much money together. But alas, Im too lazy to dig everything out and take pics/post.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 3:38:59 PM EDT
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I've got enough holsters and unused/new parts in the war room to easily get that much money together. But alas, Im too lazy to dig everything out and take pics/post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny how much improvement 100 rounds makes. I think this is also applies for people that don't shoot much at all. I took my dad out a few weeks ago because he rarely shoots at all, much less practices his draw (CCW, not competition). We worked on drawing, proper grip, presentation, and some basic moving around and shooting among/behind cover. In only 50-100 rounds, he was already improving a noticeable amount on speed, accuracy, and self-confidence. It goes to show how important practice is and how important it is to stay sharp. My next match is April 18th. I reallllllly need a 34 to replace my 19. What's the quickest way to make $600? Maybe I'll just whore myself out this week.
See sigline. That's also on my priority list...higher than a 34, too. It's a daily battle not to sell my M1A for a PVS-14. College budgets suck. I've got enough holsters and unused/new parts in the war room to easily get that much money together. But alas, Im too lazy to dig everything out and take pics/post. PM me your address--I'll make a trip to pick up and sell everything for you. You won't even know it's all missing.
My spare parts bin can fit inside a gallon-sized baggie. I sell literally everything I don't need or don't use to buy things I do need.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:06:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2015 12:20:16 AM EDT
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Good job!
And it's "Range is clear" 
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Posted: 4/14/2015 1:11:37 AM EDT
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Finally got a Bladetech holster for my Glock. I had been using the $12 Glock sport holster since it was the only OWB holster I had for a Glock with no weapon light attached.
They kept making fun of me and telling me I was too good for that shitty holster. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 9:27:55 AM EDT
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Finally got a Bladetech holster for my Glock. I had been using the $12 Glock sport holster since it was the only OWB holster I had for a Glock with no weapon light attached. They kept making fun of me and telling me I was too good for that shitty holster. If you've ever pulled a trigger before, then you're too good for that kind of holster.
Same with the XD holsters. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 12:10:58 PM EDT
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Practice today was on partials at 12-13 yards. http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p505/arfcomaje/Guns/20150412_143000_zpsraeic2bn.jpg Shooting fast at those partials does not look easy...is there a lot of misses generally or do most people get a's or c's? |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 12:47:47 PM EDT
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Shooting fast at those partials does not look easy...is there a lot of misses generally or do most people get a's or c's? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Practice today was on partials at 12-13 yards. http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p505/arfcomaje/Guns/20150412_143000_zpsraeic2bn.jpg Shooting fast at those partials does not look easy...is there a lot of misses generally or do most people get a's or c's? I've shot at the classifier that is similar to those partials. Of course you have to go slower. A lot of people hit the noshoots. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 12:54:09 PM EDT
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We have a Shoot here in Winnemucca NV tomorrow....cant wait what a blast
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Posted: 4/17/2015 2:41:44 PM EDT
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I have a local match Sunday but the weather looks like it might not be that great for it.
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Posted: 4/18/2015 2:14:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . I wouldn't say it rewards a fast miss over a hit. Hit factor is a combination of points and time. If he has one miss, it is essentially -15points...10pt penalty for the miss and the loss of 5 potential points for an A zone hit. On a 5HF stage, one miss is the equivalent of 3 seconds to score an A zone hit. 3 seconds to score an A zone hit is WAY to slow. This game is about speed AND accuracy. Speed without accuracy is useless as is accuracy without speed. DVC. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 9:21:21 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say it rewards a fast miss over a hit. Hit factor is a combination of points and time. If he has one miss, it is essentially -15points...10pt penalty for the miss and the loss of 5 potential points for an A zone hit. On a 5HF stage, one miss is the equivalent of 3 seconds to score an A zone hit. 3 seconds to score an A zone hit is WAY to slow. This game is about speed AND accuracy. Speed without accuracy is useless as is accuracy without speed. DVC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . I wouldn't say it rewards a fast miss over a hit. Hit factor is a combination of points and time. If he has one miss, it is essentially -15points...10pt penalty for the miss and the loss of 5 potential points for an A zone hit. On a 5HF stage, one miss is the equivalent of 3 seconds to score an A zone hit. 3 seconds to score an A zone hit is WAY to slow. This game is about speed AND accuracy. Speed without accuracy is useless as is accuracy without speed. DVC. In major, a C/B instead of an A is practically negligible. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In major, a C/B instead of an A is practically negligible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . I wouldn't say it rewards a fast miss over a hit. Hit factor is a combination of points and time. If he has one miss, it is essentially -15points...10pt penalty for the miss and the loss of 5 potential points for an A zone hit. On a 5HF stage, one miss is the equivalent of 3 seconds to score an A zone hit. 3 seconds to score an A zone hit is WAY to slow. This game is about speed AND accuracy. Speed without accuracy is useless as is accuracy without speed. DVC. In major, a C/B instead of an A is practically negligible. Agreed. But what's your point? |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:28:54 PM EDT
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So at my local USPSA match a kid wins overall while shooting blazing fast and having misses . Would you care to defend and explain the scoring system that rewards a fast miss over a hit ? I shot mid pack on one stage (13 out of 26) and about 5 from the bottom on the other yet in the final tally I end up 3 from last . I shot major . I was complimented on my accuracy by a couple of the regulars . I wouldn't say it rewards a fast miss over a hit. Hit factor is a combination of points and time. If he has one miss, it is essentially -15points...10pt penalty for the miss and the loss of 5 potential points for an A zone hit. On a 5HF stage, one miss is the equivalent of 3 seconds to score an A zone hit. 3 seconds to score an A zone hit is WAY to slow. This game is about speed AND accuracy. Speed without accuracy is useless as is accuracy without speed. DVC. In major, a C/B instead of an A is practically negligible. Agreed. But what's your point? You can miss fast enough?
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Posted: 4/18/2015 4:54:06 PM EDT
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You can miss fast enough? Or just take advantage of a poorly designed stage and not activate a target. 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 12:34:02 AM EDT
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So this has been a fascinating read. I shot a USPSA match after getting the weekend wrong, and showing up at my local gun club expecting to shoot an IDPA (of which I hadn't shot that either) match. This was back in 2000, I stuck with it for two years, before I had to give it up due to finances. I want to get back in, but I don't want to have to buy a new gun right away. I know I need to buy a holster, mag holder, and probably a new belt (though my 1.5 inch duty belt should set me for a while). I'm curious as to what would be my better one to start off with. I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. My other guns, though I shoot them more, they're either impractical to use for USPSA, or to expensive/difficult to repair or replace if something happens. I'm quite comfortable with all four of them. The USP .45 and the VP9 I have 5 mags each for them. The BHP and the 1911, I'd have to pick up mags. If I ran the USP, I'd probably run in production major since I only have 10 round mags for that. The VP9 I'd run limited minor, the 1911 would be single stack major, and the BHP would be limited minor I guess. Of those four possibilities, which would you guys run? If I decide to get serious about this again, I'm torn as to sign up for the GSSF and get blue label price on a G17 or go with something else. I really have no desire to pick up another caliber. Also in regards to holsters, I tried reading the rules on it, but I'm not quite clear on the legalities of a convertible OWB/IWB holster. I know you have to run OWB, but would something like TT Gunleather's convertible pancake be something to run?
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Posted: 4/19/2015 12:51:44 AM EDT
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I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 12:56:26 AM EDT
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The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). Hi Power is a double stack single action. What's the reasoning behind running the VP9 in production vs limited? The fact that all production is minor vs the 15 round mag? |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:01:41 AM EDT
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The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). I'd get first in L10 at every match around here. I'd get last too. 
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:05:47 AM EDT
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Hi Power is a double stack single action. What's the reasoning behind running the VP9 in production vs limited? The fact that all production is minor vs the 15 round mag? I guess Hi Power wouldn't work in SS then. You could shoot the VP9 in Limited minor, but not many choose to shoot Limited minor. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:06:38 AM EDT
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I'd get first in L10 at every match around here. I'd get last too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). I'd get first in L10 at every match around here. I'd get last too. Usually the older guys shooting it here, quite a few with 1911s |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:07:49 AM EDT
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I guess Hi Power wouldn't work in SS then. You could shoot the VP9 in Limited minor, but not many choose to shoot Limited minor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hi Power is a double stack single action. What's the reasoning behind running the VP9 in production vs limited? The fact that all production is minor vs the 15 round mag? I guess Hi Power wouldn't work in SS then. You could shoot the VP9 in Limited minor, but not many choose to shoot Limited minor. In my opinion, limited minor is good for beginners that don't have a .40S&W gun. They can focus less on stage planning lots of reloads and more on shooting. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:12:27 AM EDT
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So this has been a fascinating read. I shot a USPSA match after getting the weekend wrong, and showing up at my local gun club expecting to shoot an IDPA (of which I hadn't shot that either) match. This was back in 2000, I stuck with it for two years, before I had to give it up due to finances. I want to get back in, but I don't want to have to buy a new gun right away. I know I need to buy a holster, mag holder, and probably a new belt (though my 1.5 inch duty belt should set me for a while). I'm curious as to what would be my better one to start off with. I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. My other guns, though I shoot them more, they're either impractical to use for USPSA, or to expensive/difficult to repair or replace if something happens. I'm quite comfortable with all four of them. The USP .45 and the VP9 I have 5 mags each for them. The BHP and the 1911, I'd have to pick up mags. If I ran the USP, I'd probably run in production major since I only have 10 round mags for that. The VP9 I'd run limited minor, the 1911 would be single stack major, and the BHP would be limited minor I guess. Of those four possibilities, which would you guys run? If I decide to get serious about this again, I'm torn as to sign up for the GSSF and get blue label price on a G17 or go with something else. I really have no desire to pick up another caliber. Also in regards to holsters, I tried reading the rules on it, but I'm not quite clear on the legalities of a convertible OWB/IWB holster. I know you have to run OWB, but would something like TT Gunleather's convertible pancake be something to run? If I had a VP9 and had 5 or 6 mags for it, I would shoot production with it. If I only had 2 or 3 VP9 mags, then I would shoot limited minor and load all the mags all the way up. |
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